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WTFBOOOMSH — Ultron vs Reverse-Flash | DEATH BATTLE!
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Published: 2023-05-24 13:07:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 4810; Favourites: 45; Downloads: 2
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Connections:
- Both are basically the main villains to a lineage of heroes, with their motivations and origins basically being caused by the original.
- Both, at the beginning of their stories, initially had good-ill intentions but due to the actions of the heroes, they became something more evil (Thawne wanting to become Barry who was his idol in the future, but after realizing he was gonna become a villain he went insane and went to become Barry's archnemesis and began to ruin his life, while Hank created Ultron for good intentions but then inherited his creator's faults, and amplified them to the point of becoming completely sentient, where Ultron ultimately decided that he would not work under his faulty creator, believing humanity itself was the greatest threat to peace on Earth).
- Their life’s goals from then onwards were to essentially make the lives of Hank and Barry miserable, which contradicting matters is due to them wanting their acknowledgment and acceptance (Thawne wanting to be like Barry and wanted the respect of his idol and Ultron wanting the respect and admiration of his father).
- No matter how many times they die, they've always came back again and again.
- Also the 'end' of Hank and Ultron’s/Barry and Thawne’s conflict involved body stealing that ended their conflict, albeit ending in opposite ways (Thawne tried to steal Barrys body, but at the end of the fight, Thawne got erased by Barry while Ultron got Hank killed and then literally fused with his soul, leaving Hank just gone)
Another moment I’d like to see is Ultron bringing Thawne to the Overspace (considering he literally should have all the Pym Particle control of Hank, as well as all of Hank’s intellect and being made from Hank’s brain waves), where he tries to break his mind (you can even have him reference Hank’s own speech in the AntAtom battle for the ironic factor), until Thawne starts laughing before saying something like "You can't break… WHAT’S ALREADY BROKEN!!!" before he breaks out of Overspace and brings himself and Ultron to the Anti-Speedforce (assuming he can do that). Also a scene of them of both trying to phase into and possess the other would be cool, since it calls back to how both forcefully fused into and possessed Barry and Hank.
Also another factor that I like about this matchup is that… it’s literally the perfect stalemate. Neither one of them could put the other down due to Ultron AI and Living Paradox status: Ultron has no way of breaking the paradox and his AI gets around so hard that he can just go into any of his bodies after death, or any of Earth's tech for that matter. I mean, there's the argument of Thawne just dumping the body Ultron’s currently in into the speed force but thst’d not gonna fly considering Ultron can exist in multiple bodies at once, and depending on the bodies, he could most likely get out cause there's future Ultron or well Final Ultron.
But I know what some of you might think, "Can Thawn not just go back in time in order to kill Hank before he created Ultron?" Nope! Ultrons has Acausality thanks to his Allfather powers aka Ultron would be immune to Thawne trying to time paradox erase him. Also smth smth time is not linear and these beings are above it, really Ultron could probably just retreat into Overspace or Underspace and thus exist outside of space-time, to save his own existence, similar to how Eobard broke his own rules of existence by existing outside of history altogether in the Speed Force, during Flashpoint. There is also the question of "Can Ultron use his Allfather powers to reset Thawne’s timeline or can only speedforce users do that?", to which I respond… maybe??? I know the Odinforce has done some cosmic-altering, dimension-crossing and cocnept manipulating shit before. Like Odin and Dormammu, during a chess game, were straight up altering and rewriting Order and Chaos. Then again, All-Father Ultron also got yeeted by cosmic time bfr, sooooo take it as you will.
