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Here is something that I have thought needs to be remade for a long time. With the release of deviantART Version 5, nothing changed, so here is a compilation of ideas, thoughts and somewhat of a layout that I thought would work nicely. This is of course the Emoticon Legend.The current one has been around for a long time, and is clearly out dated and quite basic. Back in early 2004, `hprince329 had a similar idea, and made a mock up design of a new Emoticon Legend. From the look of the comments, the programmers looked interested and it seemed as though something might actually happen! `hprince329 's Emoticon Legend was a great concept, far better then the current one we have today. It also incorporated a number of new and exciting ideas, all of which would benefit the usual deviant enormously. However, nothing has happened and I’ve never heard why.
So I decided to take matters into my own hands. Using some of the existing ideas, along with a few of those from `hprince329 and a few of my own, I attempted to created a modern, up-to-date Emoticon Legend. I would have easily spent well over five hours working on original sketches for layout, navigation, design and colours as well as the incorporation of as many ideas as possible. Whilst I do not actually expect this to be implemented, I would like my ideas to be seen and perhaps even considered. Any critique on the design or any ideas about the layout or even some feature I haven’t thought of would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know what you think!
There are a number of new ideas in this design, here is a list containing the majority of them as they can be sometimes hard to see with a static image.
So there is the complete list for what I would like to see in our Emoticon Legend. Please feel free to comment on design, layout or with any ideas that you would/wouldn’t like to see.
Emoticons shown in the list are copyrighted by their respective owners. Emoticons used for the Emoticon/Mood tabs are copyrighted by =BoffinbraiN . Permission was obtained for all emoticons in use within this deviation.
Thank you to =ipholio , who gave extremely useful help with both design issues and ideas.
Update: Adjusted slightly and updated the emoticons listed (12/10/07).
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Comments: 176
jono-renton [2007-10-12 12:42:38 +0000 UTC]
This looks awesome, got a few critique points, i think the smiley emoticon should go next to the Moods tab, and Fella emoticon should be by the Emoticons, because it makes the Moods section lookk bad in a way, and the smiley is also a mood as opposed to something misc.
It would also be cool to have official and unofficial emoticons in the same window, but i can't see that happning!. Nie work though dude, looks great!
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zacthetoad In reply to jono-renton [2007-10-12 12:58:03 +0000 UTC]
I do know what you mean, its something I too considered. Although I'd never thought about using Fella as the Emoticons, that's a neat idea.
Technically nearly anything could replace those two, but I do like your suggestion.
Thanks muchly for the ideas and comments.
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Rendan86 [2007-10-12 12:38:01 +0000 UTC]
i think it's the best look that the emoticon legend could possibly have. Let's make some emoticon community movement to make this come to reality soon
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zacthetoad In reply to Rendan86 [2007-10-12 12:56:14 +0000 UTC]
I'd love to see this gain some more support, but I can't do much more promotion wise, can I?
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Rendan86 In reply to zacthetoad [2007-10-12 13:35:07 +0000 UTC]
maybe someone could recommend this as DD, (not me, because i don't know how, and the few i recommende where ignored) or maybe...
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Mrichston [2007-10-12 12:27:07 +0000 UTC]
This is really good. You could also try making concept pic of popup window. Sort emoticons could be on top of emoticon listin popu window version, so it wouldn't be so wide.
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zacthetoad In reply to Mrichston [2007-10-12 13:00:07 +0000 UTC]
Ahh yes, very good point. Although I do like the idea of a menu rather than another window, remembering that this whole window has just popped up already.
It does look a little out of place though.
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Mrichston In reply to zacthetoad [2007-10-12 15:02:34 +0000 UTC]
This is kinda big for popup window. It would be better if sorting menu were next to emoticon and moods tabs to make it narrower or some other way like in hprince's version.
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BoffinBrain [2007-10-12 11:47:50 +0000 UTC]
I'm surprised I didn't comment on this before.
The favourites feature sounds like a cool idea, and having the copyright notice always in your face is an absolute necessity.
I'd like to suggest that the mini-search under the emoticons list has a visible text box, so that users know where to type. Also, I'd love to still be able to sort emoticons by category. In fact, IMO I find it so useful that I'd say it should be the default sort order.
PS. Yay for compact shakefish.
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zacthetoad In reply to BoffinBrain [2007-10-12 11:50:49 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I noticed that before regarding the text box, although I'm not sure how to get around it?
And regarding the search, one thing I forgot to mention which I'll add to the list, is that each of the emoticons has a number of tags attached to them. So you can search for "happy" and it brings up five or six different emoticons, thus eliminating the need for Categories. I think this is a cleaner option.
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BoffinBrain In reply to zacthetoad [2007-10-12 12:14:03 +0000 UTC]
Definitely another good idea.
I'm not sure how you mean 'get around' the text box issue. Can't you just add a text box next to the search button?
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BoffinBrain In reply to zacthetoad [2007-10-12 18:22:15 +0000 UTC]
I don't still see a text box.
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zacthetoad In reply to BoffinBrain [2007-10-13 00:35:43 +0000 UTC]
I've done it more like the search in the title bar, just the border.
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BoffinBrain In reply to zacthetoad [2007-10-13 01:20:40 +0000 UTC]
Hmm... I kind-of see it now, but it's not very intuitive, as it just looks like a table border. Perhaps the search box should be elsewhere, like beside the Sort button or above the table, not joined to it.
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Shi-Gu [2007-07-13 03:45:29 +0000 UTC]
Great that would help so much!
WOW!!!!
You have 388 messages?!?!
For me is hard to have 10
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zacthetoad In reply to chrisbouchard [2007-02-25 05:45:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the kind comment, hopefully something similar will one day be implemented...
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viva-os-torresmos [2006-10-02 22:02:43 +0000 UTC]
Very good concept but I'd like to see the edges more "roundy" just like dA. The search engine on the header should be Search Art and in the emoticon legend on the left side you'd type your keywords to search only on emoticon box
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glue [2006-09-28 17:45:45 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that looks really good. I love the fact that you can fav the emoticons.
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DarkestJourney In reply to ??? [2006-09-28 13:12:52 +0000 UTC]
This is absolutely excellent. This *should* be what the Emoticon Legend looks like!
I can't see a single thing wrong with it or anything I would change ^^
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janvanlysebettens In reply to ??? [2006-09-27 20:59:39 +0000 UTC]
nice.. some very good ideas..
( especially the ability to add emoticons to a little favlist )..
the only disadvantage I see is the fact that it's a new page.. not a popup window..
while this does look much nicer..
the popup window is a lot easier to use..
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zacthetoad In reply to janvanlysebettens [2006-09-28 09:50:12 +0000 UTC]
Well the window could still open in a new popup box, just a bigger one.
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Gomotes [2006-09-21 10:32:13 +0000 UTC]
and is this added to the new version if anybody worked on this master piece
i really like how you come up with the ideas i hope anybody is taking this and made this official...
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zacthetoad In reply to Gomotes [2006-09-21 10:35:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I'd like to see some of these ideas implemented too.
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Gomotes In reply to zacthetoad [2006-09-21 10:43:26 +0000 UTC]
which people have the power to make that implemented
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zacthetoad In reply to Gomotes [2006-09-21 11:57:20 +0000 UTC]
Well I guess its the programers along with Admins, but I can't see this being used. Although, ¢eStunt has assured me there a big plans ahead for the Emoticon List. Looks like it continues to be a waiting game...
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Gomotes In reply to zacthetoad [2006-09-21 16:33:05 +0000 UTC]
give it the plans not since years... yes maybe there only a few years till end of waiting, let's take a cup of tea
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zacthetoad In reply to Gomotes [2006-09-21 23:18:42 +0000 UTC]
Well, maybe a cup of tea and a slice of cake!
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Gomotes In reply to zacthetoad [2006-09-24 14:12:37 +0000 UTC]
yeah or some more cake and tea till it finally roll on...
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ipholio In reply to ??? [2006-09-09 18:32:31 +0000 UTC]
Nice concept. =camelhijackation asked me to do this once, never got around to it though. I like how you designed this, just a few changes I'd recommend. First, you're using borders (thicker ones at that) and also not using rounded edges. Thus, it doesn't fit the v5 style. For example, if you removed the borders on the search box you create, and just have it have rounded edges as seen in the v5 header, would look alot better. With the rest though, not really sure what to replace those borders with, as they seem necessary with the rows and columns. however, i did take some time to make some changes of this. take a look at them here. let me know what you think, i would just suggest you make some changes similar to those.
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zacthetoad In reply to ipholio [2006-09-10 01:00:50 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for your critique, I was really looking for some on this and its always nice when someone was some great design skills helps out.
I actually considered not using the border things at all, but with the table I couldn't think any way around it. And then I tried with the rounded edges to suit more with the v5 style, but couldn't work it decently enough. However, what you have done is excellent. It really does suit the theme much more. Would you mind if I used a little of yours, in particularily that fine tool bar? Of course I'd credit you in the description for your help.
Thanks for your words, it really helps.
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ipholio In reply to zacthetoad [2006-09-10 01:55:15 +0000 UTC]
No problem. Ok, I realized I had a couple errors with that previous one, so check these two out:
[link] (be sure to hard refresh this one, same url as earlier)
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Those are two different takes on it, I think I actually like the second one more. Feel free to 100% copy those if you wish, doesn't matter to me. I'm just throwing out my design suggestions here so take from it what you want. Let me know if you update this, would like to see what you decide to change.
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zacthetoad In reply to ipholio [2006-09-10 03:49:18 +0000 UTC]
Okay...
The first time I uploaded this there was a small problem, and when editing I frogot to unhide one layer. So, the version you saw was missing the entire concept of +fav'ing!
Anyway, I introduced some of your ideas, (and that sexy toolbar of yours) as well as put in the +fav emoticons.
Let me know if it can still be worked on.
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ipholio In reply to zacthetoad [2006-09-11 02:43:22 +0000 UTC]
Ah ok. Well that's an interesting concept you've added. You might want to remove that 1px vertical line next to the icon though, probably not supposed to be there.
Also, it appears you rounded the edges of the whole legend to match the other edges on v5. That would be ok, however, the search button on the bottom right of it now looks very awkward. I would recommend changing that back to not be quite so rounded. Also, you decided to not have the Emoticon, Code, and Creator text bold? I think as headers, they look much better designwise and headerwise if they're left bold. That may just be a difference in design opinion though, not all designers think the same. Also, the
icon might also need a slight drop shadow on it, as it appears on the deviation pages.
One last thing, it still has 'n messages' on the top of the page, might want to change that to 'no'.
Hope that's not too much to recommend again for changes.
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zacthetoad In reply to ipholio [2006-09-11 06:20:02 +0000 UTC]
The 1px line was actually deliberately put there, because without it, there is no clear distinction, again its probably just a preference, but I felt that this needed to be clearly contrasted as opposed to the rest of the table.
I do agree with the rounding issue however, and I think I'll square them up a little, because at the moment it is too round and does look odd now that I zoom out and take another look at it.
Not sure on the bold, I think perhaps the reason I chose not to do this was because you never see any bold headings anywhere on deviantART, although I will expiriment and play with that a little, and see what I get. Again, another prefernce though
I do like the idea of the drop shadow, so I'll play with that a little and see what can be done.
Also, the "n messages" was meant to be Pi messages, but alas there is no version of Pi that isn't AA'd! I might change that to something normal. I also have to update the lighter shade of the drop down menus in the header, because they have since been updated.
Anyway, I'll play with it again to night and see where I end up. However, once again thanks for your critique, it really is appreciated.
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zacthetoad In reply to ipholio [2006-09-10 01:59:02 +0000 UTC]
Woah. When I saw your first take, there were two things I considered changing. I was thinking about a one pixel very pale border, just to contrast the white and pale blue. The second was moving the search bar up into the table. Both of which you've done.
I'll probably update this later, will let you know. Thanks for all your help once again, it really is appreciated.
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