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Published: 2012-04-03 01:27:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 1311; Favourites: 53; Downloads: 15
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Description had a bit of an artblock lately; sorry for not posting things. nid again! the idea is not too great but oh well; it was fun to draw and helped me get back into things
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zombieless In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 20:57:31 +0000 UTC]

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 21:00:51 +0000 UTC]

master sis
i will ask u if you really read me well xD
the whole time i was talking about my own crossover desings in my mind
you know... proyect omega + some great succes that will allow the crossover + brs proyect
you know..

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 21:05:10 +0000 UTC]

but you were talking about the original brs characters .____.

i dunno if you can make a commercial crossover though; it's a huge effort legally. usually it's only two series too; like macross or nobunagaXpokemon or phoenix wright and layton. unless it's fighting game, but even then it's still two franchises, like marvel vs capcom or tatsunoko

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 21:08:10 +0000 UTC]

lol no, i was talking about my desings using reference various things about the originals
and for the moment i dont do it comercial and legal, i mean im planing it if i will do it in a future
so yeah if i have succes.. and they want to, i will have allready the story and desings

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 21:12:01 +0000 UTC]

so you're changing them?

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 21:18:14 +0000 UTC]

technically if the crossover will be able (im still searching the first link to the worlds)
using the principal logic of the other world, the other versions of my characters will be made in that world affecting everyone in that world
i was planing to add just 2, omega and gabriel cause they have the worst psicological history in the group,
their other versions will be like god-likes in power in that world
also i create a new suit for them to allow them to live in that world
so technically is the real themselfs agains their insane versions in the same world

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 21:24:34 +0000 UTC]

um okay

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 21:31:47 +0000 UTC]

>_>.. i didnt like that "um okay" lol
when i write my whole ideas to you, im doing it to hope u like em, you know you are my sis and master and if a story is good to you, i think it will good to great people
also the original characters are a mayor factor

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 21:40:10 +0000 UTC]

oh sorry D:

um i dunno i'm just not that interested in fanfiction in general?

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 21:50:18 +0000 UTC]

it is not fanfic if i havent a story for my characters
usually fanfics are about extrangers who suddendly became mary sues

maybe the insane versions will be kinda gary stu because of their great power
(but i understand the symbolism of that world so is rasonable that they will be powerful), but they will die

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 22:02:28 +0000 UTC]

uhh mary stu/gary sue =/= powerful character. it's only if they're so powerful that it doesn't fit the story/makes problem solving too easy. also mary sue is kind of a shit concept that doesn't mean anything anymore

also the moment you involve BRS in any way, shape, or form, be it the design ideas or the naming or the powers or the actual characters or the world, it's fanfiction because you're using someone else's intellectual property.

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 22:11:03 +0000 UTC]

lol well theres out there various fanfics with mary sues..
but yeah they are powerful under their own conceps

lol well i think it will be a crossover with fanfic, because i am a fan and is a story i make about something
but a crossover too because i use 2 diferent universes, using mine to
i was trying to make it the most realist posible under both universes

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 22:27:03 +0000 UTC]

crossover is also fanfiction though

keep in mind that fanfiction.net has a whole section for crossovers

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 22:28:37 +0000 UTC]

yeah yeah i know..
meanwhile help me with the creation of my fictional crossover
and maybe i will tell you the plan i have to destroy the us
probably i will change it

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 22:33:17 +0000 UTC]

what

like i said please don't destroy the usa. it is my country and i love it even if it is really dumb sometimes. wait until we, the new awesome smart generation grows up and gets into government and makes the usa awesome. seriously though; we learn about all the bad things the usa does in our history classes in school. we know there's things wrong with it, so we will change it in the future.

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 22:36:38 +0000 UTC]

i know i know, im thinking about it
but we both know
that with the actual goverment and defense department, and their nuclear paranoia. soon or later there will be war, and with actual wars, they will involve us somehow
maybe not destroy usa, maybe change it
but yeah i tell u my plan, very simple plan

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 22:38:44 +0000 UTC]

shrug

who knows? i can't really say. imo if anything is gonna start shit, it's gonna be russia. did you know putin was reelected?

and what is your plan? ._.

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 22:56:17 +0000 UTC]

im petty sure it will be not russia
look if i make the super alliance in a distant future, of course usa will consider it as a treath, and of course they will send spys and shit, even try to kill me, as they try it with castro.
if i discover that i will.. probably send assassins to.
anyways, to this plan have succes i should allready have the alliance
the plan is simple
1.-debilitate their social life
inner conflict, like multiple protest, civil war or revolution, anything will help, that will make the goverment distract.
2.- debilitate their infrastructure.
emp or a solar energy wave will toast their communication sistems, satellites and mayor power of comunication
3.- hit fast and with great power
dont let them time to react to the threat, bombard their bases, destroy their ships, attack with ground demolator power, amphibious assaults, paratroppes, de-activate their missile silos.
4.- after the first attack, send more and more reinforcements
of course not so many, cuz whe have to still have defense on the countries.

btw i have lot of things to consider, like the actual troopers in afganistan, they will retreat, maybe destroy their ships with artillery from their own land
i have still lots of things to think about, mayor factors.. anyways, russia and china could attack alaska and send ships to us cost, we could use mexicoΒ΄s tactical position to enter.

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-06 23:28:07 +0000 UTC]

you'd be surprised. putin, like i said, has been reelected. this is in defiance of democracy; president's are supposed to run a limited amount of terms so they don't get too much power. there are tons of protests in russia because of this. putin has done quite a few bad things.

also, i dunno if usa would see it as a threat. we are really good friends with japan, and china needs us because we buy their stuff. and russia wouldn't touch us, because we're grudging post cold war buddies and way too much of a hassle to take down w/o ending the world. and, they wouldn't send assassins to kill you. that would make no sense. you're talking about castro, which is years ago when the usa did a lot of stupid things. an assassination wouldn't stand in the modern world, especially if such an alliance did nothing to garner any distrust. it would also destablize international relations, something the us wouldn't try.

also, aside from your blatant claim to want to ruin the usa, aka my home country, i see a lot of problems in your plan.

1. it's almost fundamentally impossible to cause total social turmoil in the usa, in large part because we're a first world country. people are content and privileged, but they're also extremely patriotic and proud of their country. there would need to be some enormous economic problem, and there would probably have to be something wrong with the international economy to cause that as well. there are protests but the us is historically pretty good at weathering through them, especially because we're a nation built on that sort of thing.

2. the moment you launch any sort of emp, the u.s. will fire their nuclear missiles. even if they don't know what country fired it, they'll launch them anyway and hit all their major enemies. this might even be a us policy. also, realize that even without nukes, the emp's effects are minimized on military hardware, which is hardened against such things. rather, you will kill hundreds of thousands of millions of innocent american civilians. think about it. no electricity, no hospitals, no infrastructure. diabetics will die. people on life support will die. everyone who needs serious medical attention will die. also, every single plane up in the air will crash, killing even more people.

3. with how great communications are these days, i'm pretty sure the us would react pretty fast. if the attack was on a great scale, they would probably launch their nukes. once again, MAD. realize that you can't destroy all the missile silos, because most of them are heavily hidden, and some of the nukes are on submarines. also, our allies would probably come in to attack. it would also plunge the world economy into poverty.

4. you would kill so many of your own soldiers that it would be ridiculous, and the people in your countries would protest the senseless waste of human life. there would be desertions and the war would be hugely unpopular. that's why the us didn't invade japan during wwII.

so yeah. don't destroy the us. it would be a fuck-all for everyone involved.

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-06 23:51:35 +0000 UTC]

*making corrections on plans lol*
again with the nuclear paranoia
they will kill even more people that if i just attack
but i can put both plan 1, 2 and 3 in a single step. a solar flare
if that thing hits us
there will be lots of dead because of the same reasons you say, the satelites will be toasted, destroying any kind of comunication like cellphones and the internet itself
huge impact on economy, in 3 or 4 days people will be nervous, probably can happend a huge inner conflict
and nuking countries will not help
i see nukes as a coward way to end or start a war, usually nukes targets are civilian cities... but in that case we will use our nukes to and send the world to a nuclear wasteland e_e
also usa soldiers arent the only one good prepared.. china, russia, and i hope the economy will allow me to better equip my soldiers, they will be also great.

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zombieless In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-07 00:01:33 +0000 UTC]

wow; you'd be pleased to kill so many innocent people? you're more of a fucking warmonger than all the people in our department of defense combined.

the moment anyone shoots off nukes, everyone is dead, because everyone shoots off nukes at that point. mutually assured destruction. done. the world is toast, not habitable at all. end of civilization, usa, china, russia, done. nukes aren't a weapon, they are a threat to the end. they aren't meant to be used.

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avatarmex In reply to zombieless [2012-04-07 00:13:36 +0000 UTC]

what. no lol
i was talking in a hipotetical case of war, since yes your country do that, kill inocent people for their own personal interest, vietnam, afganistan, iran, and maybe iran soon
but. if you say usa has change that part of they, i think there would be no real reason to do that

also your countri is the first to send nukes, why are you tellig me this, i was againts the nukes first we started this convertation. also they are kinda hipocrital, they wanna nuke people but dont be nuked, making their missile defense sistem agains their own allies

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Serentic In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-07 00:34:05 +0000 UTC]

"Iran, and maybe Iran soon" < OKAY THEN.

Before you read this -- I'm no huge supporter of the United States or our foreign policy. We lack morals like you do.

Vietnam - We went in originally to help the southern Vietnamese rebel forces escape communism. I realize that might be a bad thing to you, but communism HAS NEVER FUCKING WORKED, EVER.

Afghanistan (spell it correctly, please) - We went in there looking for the creator of an incredibly radical and dangerous group of Jihadists. Extreme religion isn't good in any case. I can't speak for every soldier, but we didn't intend to kill anyone besides the people who attacked us first in this case.

Iraq - We went in looking for WMDs, and to stop a criminal (Saddam Hussein) from using chemical weapons against his own people (which, admittedly, we had done before.) We also went in to provide repercussions for disregarding a promise to the UN. And Saddam provided funds for Al Qaeda, which is a horrible group anyhow.

We've brought a lot of people home from our current conflicts, so I don't see why Iran would be involved in this. If anything, I would say Israel and Palestine are a more likely source of conflict for us. Or North Korea, eventually.

And you're not listening. You're basing one-third of your argument on a conflict that happened in the 70's. Vietnam was not part of this globalized era, and in fact was a direct result of spreading communism in the post-World War II era.

Go take a history class and get an internet browser with a spellcheck.

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avatarmex In reply to Serentic [2012-04-07 00:49:56 +0000 UTC]

okay, just some points here

they just go to stop the communism
not for help the sout vietnamese
usa was a big interested bully in the world, also in afghanistan, they trained th jihadist and other afghans warriors agains the soviet union, now i think they are fighthing againts they own actions, i will say nothing about iraq because i think you are right.
as i know you are inteligent, usa is very attrackted to oil, you will not let me like, there is big reserves of oil in the middle east, now about iran, yeah it otherΒ΄s business
then why usa is there ?
well is very well know that lot of oil is involved in this conflic, recently usa has been breaking relationship with countryes who buy oil from iran
so based on their actions, before and now, i think the goberment is more interested in making your country more rich with dirty oil that really help other people.

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Serentic In reply to avatarmex [2012-04-07 01:05:10 +0000 UTC]

I agree, there is a huge draw to oil for the US. However, if we have our own stocks in Texas and Alaska and if we need foreign oil we would probably go to Saudi Arabia. Economics always comes before humanitarian issues. It's unfortunate but true.

In Afghanistan, we didn't train the Jihadists, we simply gave them money and arms to attack a corrupt government. Americans were ignorant back then and didn't realize that giving aid to an extremist group to overthrow another extremist group was stupid.

Regardless of whether we went to stop communism or help the South Vietnamese (I agree, it was for communism) we helped people and we didn't target innocent civilians, like you suggested above.

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avatarmex In reply to Serentic [2012-04-07 01:14:28 +0000 UTC]

ahh texas.. we miss it btw
and they buy alaska from russia

well, i saw in a documental that some cia agents train them againts russians
i think they care more to stop communism that stop the growing of religious fanatics

well in that about target innocent civilians, i think some people will call it "collateral damage"
because some communist where in villages or towns hagging out with civilians, so the napalm strikes or the massive bomb attacks could kill lots of civilians even with no intention
anyways it is nice to argue with you

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Serentic In reply to zombieless [2012-04-07 00:13:32 +0000 UTC]

Your plans are faulty and juvenile. You clearly don't understand the lack of morality that comes with war and dictatorial governments.

The world cannot be looked at as if we were still in the World War II era -- our lack of understanding and culture during that time is not the case for today. We are a globalized community because of all the new media sources we have. Your plans (are very unhealthy to be thinking about, by the way. If you want to make a change, help people. Don't fucking kill everyone because you don't fucking understand how the fucking world fucking works. Fuck.) are faulty because you're basing them on the assumption that you could even start an economic recession on a global scale, which won't work. Every country is tied to each other in some way, yes, but there are safeguards for this type of thing now.

I'm sure if you ever were able to take any position of power, you'd be shot down immediately. You are aiming to harm innocent people without a worthy cause to do so -- look at how much people care about Kony, a dictator who is out of power now. Over a million views in a day or so on the campaign video. Propaganda is not the same machine it was back then -- now people are informed, and you're idiotic enough to be thinking about the world in a very narrow, dystopian (idealistic for you, I guess) sense.

Besides, if nobody from another country assassinated you, your own people would. You have the leadership skills and moralistic range of a teaspoon.

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