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# Comments
Comments: 39
Mezran [2008-03-07 05:30:13 +0000 UTC]
Seems some people don't appreciate your criticism so much. Most unfortunate.
Oh, no real reason for being here. Just stopped to wave and say hello.
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to Mezran [2008-03-07 09:40:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for your comment. It's all right, not many people seem to appreciate critique much on this site nowadays. Though, I don't mind if the artist themselves tell me that they don't want it, rather than a friend or an acquaintance of the artist.
I usually am quite thorough with my critique, so I assume it's the length that gets people, which a lot of it is me explaining myself rather than pointing out the bad. I assume I have to work on that nasty habit.
And hello
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minolta-chan [2008-03-02 04:13:27 +0000 UTC]
okay, listen to me, listening? good. i understand that you are giving people tips on how to make a picture or flash better, and that's fine. but look, some people are sensitive about their work, so it's best not to tell them what's wrong, just say what they can should work on a little more without waying it's bad in some way.
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to minolta-chan [2008-03-05 07:51:30 +0000 UTC]
I'm not going to stop giving critique, unless the artist themselves tell me to. And I usually critique someone who I see will have potential in the future, so that goes to say that I do think he's good, or she's good, depending on whom you're talking about.
There is no reason for you to be so condescending, if the artist themselves don't want a critique, let them tell me.
I never said the work was bad, it just had a few different things to work on. Which is understandable. No one is perfect, and if he wants to improve it'd be best if he listened to some people's tips.
Also, if they truly are incredibly sensitive then they may want to consider posting "critique discourage" on their deviation, because as far as I can tell they were indifferent to getting a critique.
If your friend is one of those sensitive folks, I do advice him to put up "critique discourage" from now on. Otherwise he's letting himself open to critique, which people do give on this website. I, one of them.
Also, if he didn't appreciate it, let him come to me. I rather hear it from him. No offense.
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Mr-Meaty [2008-03-01 01:44:44 +0000 UTC]
[link] Thanks for it, but I really rather you leave it on my page.
Please critique that. And be honest, even if you don't have anything nice to say. I really want to win this contest.
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LadyHisoka [2008-02-04 05:42:12 +0000 UTC]
[link]
There I redid the thing but is that kinda along the lines of what you were thinking?
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LadyHisoka [2007-10-16 20:35:42 +0000 UTC]
You know you have ALLOT of balls to come and do what you just did! how about you start telling yourself how to be a better person instead of telling other people how to be a better artist. whats wrong CHICKEN to actually leave a half way decent comment! YES, that was a roast not candy coated how about you pay the fuck ATTENTION or don't post!
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to LadyHisoka [2007-10-21 00:42:21 +0000 UTC]
I'm actually curious. Do you have a warning label for your ego?
If not, there should be. Put it on your sig. Tell everyone that the moment they say "I think there is something off" that warrants you to flip out and ban them from your page.
Also mention how that makes us unworthy.
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-26 02:16:34 +0000 UTC]
yes, she does have a warning label
[link]
usually i dislike websites like this one (since anything wiki usually lies), but the screenshots are proof enough
it's strange that i'd be posting this, since i hate bashing on others, but something about this girl just irks me
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-27 09:51:09 +0000 UTC]
Darn, Imessed up the link [link] there you go
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-27 14:20:00 +0000 UTC]
that's so sad. no wonder she's in college and has the art skills of a ten year old.
just curious, but may i see the critique you gave her, or did she "hide" it. (i reckon she did)
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-27 22:03:52 +0000 UTC]
She already hid my critiques, but here are things I have so far [link]
There are a couple more, but I would have to note you
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-27 23:50:26 +0000 UTC]
okay, now you got me curious. note would be nice, thank you
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-27 09:45:58 +0000 UTC]
Understandably so. I came across her page using the Random Deviant button and I gave her a honest and subjective opinion on the work. My friend was the one that linked me to that page you sent me. And today I find this in my notes [link]
And I agree. I don't usually like websites like what you mentioned above, but the screenshots were more than enough proof. And even after all that, I gave her the benefit of a doubt. To be honest, it was a huge reminder on why I don't come here anymore.
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-27 14:03:20 +0000 UTC]
despite Lady Hoskia (however you spell it), or Divine Angel or whoever the heck she is, you shouldn't let her get you down with this website. Granted, DA has more than it's share of flaws and many stupid people who just want popularity, but there are also many good people on this site who truly want to improve on their art, and those are the people you want to make friends with.
i love to see more people like you on DA, cause your what this site desperately needs: good, kind, people who are very good at critiques
(we also need people who can take critiques, but i don't see that happening until all the 12-14 years old grow up )
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-27 22:05:15 +0000 UTC]
I'll admit I had a hard time taking critiques, but that was waaaaay long ago when I was a teenager. Now I don't care I've had my share of insulting critiques that turned out to have very good suggestions so I left the insults roll off me and took the suggestions.
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-27 23:47:54 +0000 UTC]
aye, same with me. a long time ago i used to hate critiques and being told what to do like DivineAngel does, and i drew free hand and was ignorant to using shapes (i suck at free hand by the way). then one day my friend asked me to draw her a dog, only she dared me to draw it using shapes. i agreed, not wanting to her to think i'm to ignorant to do it. I say, when i drew the dog using shapes, it's like the world opened up to me. i suddenly realized that with enough practice, i could draw anything. i learned what critiques were to, and realized that they were helpful behind the negativity, which is better in the long run. it's been about a year now since she dared me, and now I'm closer to realism that ever (ignore the stuff in my gallery, those are months old, i've gotten better since then).
so, yea... sorry about the whole life story thing. once i started, i couldn't stop
hmm...maybe i should tell this to DivineAngel, so she's finally gets her head out of the ground
curious, but how old are you anyway?
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-28 00:57:56 +0000 UTC]
It's quite all right. Really! I know how it's been like and quite honestly I didn't really get out of that mentality until I went to college and got told all sorts of things. And some of them being told that I was going to fail and be crap at it. To be honest, it was motivating for a while and then they stopped. Honestly, it really toughen me up! I'll admit, when things get me down, I get low and kinda sensitive, but otherwise, I think I've toughen out.
and I'm 22... same age as DivineAngel...
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-28 01:48:52 +0000 UTC]
by god, i'm 6 years younger than her and already 10 years more mature! what is this world coming too?!
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to LadyHisoka [2007-10-21 00:38:05 +0000 UTC]
Let me guess. You never bothered going to the deviation I linked you to? He got a worse critique than anyone's given you and yet you're the one going ballistic. *tsk tsk tsk*
Has anyone ever taught you civility?
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to LadyHisoka [2007-10-18 19:29:12 +0000 UTC]
Um. What? What exactly is it that I did? I gave you a critique, a nice one that is. It could have been a lot worse, and quite frankly what I said couldn't possibly be the worst out there.
You say I have a lot of balls to "insult" you, yet you come to my page and yell at me for saying "I like it, but there are things you need to work out anatomically" And I think I mentioned to "keep up the good work" which isn't a trait of negative comment.
It's quite rude of you to come to my page to swear at me and tell me to "pay attention" when out of all the people I've critiqued yours was the most sugar coated I could have ever made it. It was a decent comment, and I don't think it's wrong of me to want to see you improve.
I'd like to quote some of the things I said to assure you that nothing I said was anywhere near a flame or a terrible comment, but you hid it.
If you're going to post your art in the internet, anywhere in the internet, I suggest you get a thicker skin to criticism. Not everyone is going to candy coat it for you, like I did. People are going to act worse, going to treat you worse, and are going to start flaming you for the terrible attitude you displayed.
Honestly, I gave you a constructive criticism along with compliments, yet you come to my page to "yell" at me for wanting you to improve. That makes no sense what so ever. It really doesn't. Mindless praise isn't going to help you improve, and sugar coating it until the meaning of "criticsm" no longer applies isn't going to make you a better artist, either.
I didn't swear at you, and I will appreciate if you show me the same respect. And I didn't implied yelling or said such hostile things to you, and that I too want the same respect. Honestly, that kind of attitude is just silly. Not everyone is going to think your work is fantastic, and no one's going to think it's flawless and no matter how sweet I word it, it's not going to make it any less flawed.
What I suggest is for you to think about the words you use and take the constructive criticism with a grain of salt. Also, take the advice and use it to your advantage; even the ones not up to par with your standard of "sugar coating".
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-26 02:24:17 +0000 UTC]
sorry she bashed you like that. appearantly any sort of critique is a flame to her.
anyway, keep up the good critique! i'm glad to see another wonderful person on this site!
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-27 09:49:14 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much. It always does my heart good to know that there are people on this site who don't take critiques to heart (or dismiss mine b/c my gallery is empty :/ )
But thank you for your kind words
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SRLucas In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-27 14:21:06 +0000 UTC]
ah, no problem, hope you stay on this site, i'd really like to see you around.
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to SRLucas [2007-10-28 00:58:51 +0000 UTC]
You shall know soon enough
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LadyHisoka In reply to QuickSilverRaye [2007-10-18 19:56:27 +0000 UTC]
Its not a Critique! over 10 years of art classes with an ACTUAL ARTIST as a teacher don't lie.
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to LadyHisoka [2007-10-21 00:36:29 +0000 UTC]
The fact that you banned me from your page isn't going to do you any good. You commented on mine, and seeing as I'm not on your page, I can still comment on you.
You know, I'm trying to help you, and so are a lot of people out in this website. Just because you can't take constructive criticism does not mean other people have something up their ass. Take a fucking hint. Just because they think it's less than perfect does not mean shit. And quite frankly the fact that you banned me proves my points.
You need to grow up and stop acting like a stuck up little child who thinks she knows it all.
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QuickSilverRaye In reply to LadyHisoka [2007-10-18 20:04:46 +0000 UTC]
I know people who took years and years of art school and still have a lot of room for improvement. Sorry, but that means nothing to me. Even professional artists leave room for improvement. Even the "best of the best" aren't perfect.
I've been to art classes, and if your teacher was as good as mine was, she or he would have told you the ego is the artist's worst enemy. For an ego will not help you improve, and the ego will be bitterly hurt.
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