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Published: 2015-10-17 16:03:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 2647; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 0
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Description Hey everyone. I know that I have barely been on DeviantArt this year, but I am slowly starting to change that. It is nice to be back.

One thing that I need to have clarified to me obviously contains the Vegans Miles and Laurie. While I usually understand why something or a group of people get an intense amount of hate, I do not get it for these two. They were only in 6 episodes of the season, and from what I have seen, they have no done enough for all of the extensive hate that I have seen. 

One reason (and probably the most astounding) that I have seen for the hatred o them is that they are racist....... Wait, WHAT? HOW are they racist? Is it because of Laurie's hair? It is racist for people to try on and wear other type of hair that has generally been used for one culture? That is like saying that not being segregated with our looks, our association with people, etc is being racist. 

Some of the others include them being overly annoying. More annoying than the LARPers? Stepbrothers? Daters? Ice Dancers? At least all of the others have something nice to say about them, but these two? That is their biggest crime? 

I understand that fodders are usually people that no one gives a fuck about, and that is fine, because many do not care about the Geniuses, Adversity Twins, Rockers, Tennis Rivals, etc, but there is usually not so much emotion for people that no one cares about.  I have seen so much hatred for these two, and I just do not get it.  Can you all please help explain it to me? I need some clarification. Thanks.
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MarioFan1069 [2020-04-26 07:45:48 +0000 UTC]

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ObjectChaos [2015-12-26 14:42:52 +0000 UTC]

I like the Vegans! They are certainly not racist! I really like them!  

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chaoknuckingXD [2015-12-17 00:25:54 +0000 UTC]

This is Terrible

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TheLocoChoco [2015-10-29 10:40:41 +0000 UTC]

Tumblr disgusts me. Like did you hear a girl had a suicide attempt because she drew Amythest skinny and this garnered SO much backlash from the tumblr fanbase it is unreal. I was disgusted by the way the girl was treated, I mean she was okay, but clearly affected. Also, Laurie was confirmed to be half Jamaican.

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1997kid In reply to TheLocoChoco [2015-10-29 20:16:23 +0000 UTC]

No, I have not heard of that. I know some nasty crap goes down on Tumblr, but to drive a girl to a suicide attempt over that bullshit? It is not right, but at least she is okay. I heard about her being confirmed to be mixed, but that also brings up some controversy because many feel like Fresh only did that to get rid of the backlash.

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TheLocoChoco In reply to 1997kid [2015-10-31 18:25:32 +0000 UTC]

Unneeded backlash. Also that egotistical maniac of a person who you are a fan of has an FF account so I shall be having strong words with his pathetic ass because he sent me this:

"Fuck you. I hate you so much".


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1997kid In reply to TheLocoChoco [2015-10-31 18:31:48 +0000 UTC]

Keep this BULLSHIT off my post. This has NOTHING to do with the topic I posted. If you wanna take this up somewhere, do it elsewhere, but NOT on my Vegan post. Goodbye trick.

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Erin-Gamer-90 [2015-10-28 13:12:33 +0000 UTC]

Uh, myself, I don't hate those two. I thought they were okay characters and they had a good 6 episode run.

Maybe they hate them because of them having to eat the feast, even through they're animal lovers.... Fans and haters, think about it, they had no choice. They were close to last place... Plus Laurie's "karma" on episode 6 was too far and we can agree on that.

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Sonic2125 [2015-10-28 10:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Racist, really? I don't really care for them but no way near hate

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air30002 [2015-10-27 01:57:49 +0000 UTC]

Glad that you are returning to dA. Looking forward to your future discussions.

But anyways, I'm not sure either. These two sort of remind me of Dawn, mixed with a design similar to Harold's sisters or something in the lines of that. I don't know why people think they're racist.

Besides the fact they are fodder, there isn't much to hate about them.

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1997kid In reply to air30002 [2015-10-27 17:53:16 +0000 UTC]

It is nice to be back.

There is not much in them to have strong feelings for them like that.

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KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-26 23:19:01 +0000 UTC]

You dont have to take tumblr fan base  seriusly. Lately all they do is makin supossed social BS about a cartoon and if you dont agree, you are a bigot, horrible person, etc

I personally like these two. 

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1997kid In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-27 17:53:29 +0000 UTC]

I have noticed.

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JohnMarkee1995 [2015-10-20 20:18:06 +0000 UTC]

Not really gonna add much to the question of why they're hated other than the reasoning for it (mostly for Laurie) is absolute BS.

What I will say though is that even though they were fodder, I ultimately gave more of a shit about them than most of the teams in the Final 5 and the ones that were supposed to "Matter". But a problem I do have with them is how similar they are to Dawn to the point where they would've been better off having her replace one of them (preferably Laurie).

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1997kid In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-10-27 17:50:36 +0000 UTC]

I never noticed for some reason how similar they are to Dawn (it is something I should have noticed a lot earlier). She definitely could have been one of the Vegans though.

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MegaMovieMonday [2015-10-19 03:51:39 +0000 UTC]

As stated below, the reason the Vegans, mainly Laurie, are hated so much is because of Laurie's racist appearance. She has dreadlocks and a rasta hat and hippies, especially white ones, are known for taking features belonging to ethnic cultures and using them as accessories while disregarding their cultural significance. And since Laurie represents the hippie stereotype then she's guilty of doing this.

Plus, I have a hard time believing that Laurie is biracial since Fresh TV made that statement 'after' the first episode was leaked and people were calling out Fresh for Laurie's racist design. So it feels more like a last minute save to avoid the extra hate. Plus, even if she is biracial, she's still white passing so a majority of fans will see her as a white hippie and won't know of her ethnic background. Which, by the way, was never mentioned in the show.

Also, ignoring the racial factor, the hate can also come from them being pretty one-dimensional. Aside from them devoting to help mother nature and creating new charities every episode, there really isn't anything interesting about them. They're just ditzy hippies meant to be elimination fodder for the early episodes.

And that's the main reason why everyone hates Laurie. Miles is more of a casualty for being associated with her meaning that the hate spills onto her aswell.

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bad-asp [2015-10-18 02:37:08 +0000 UTC]

I liked them every episode they were in, and I don't know why people hate on them so much!

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AutoBubbs [2015-10-18 00:38:40 +0000 UTC]

Wait... RACIST?  I don't get it.

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DawnFan3 [2015-10-17 22:52:21 +0000 UTC]

You pretty much explained why people hate them in the description.

I understand why people hate Laurie, but what's wrong with Miles? She doesn't have anything "racist" in her design so I don't understand why do people hate both of them because of Laurie.

To me, they were the Dawn/Ella of the season. Best Fodders. 

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TheBlackHoodedGamer [2015-10-17 21:51:40 +0000 UTC]

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1997kid In reply to TheBlackHoodedGamer [2015-10-17 21:58:15 +0000 UTC]

I completely understand why you see them as “egh”, and it is understandable for the reasons you listed. I see people say some nice things about the Geniuses, LARPers, Tennis Rivals, etc, and at worse, people don’t care for them, but with Miles and Laurie, I always see such a strong disdain. Apparently Laurie wearing dreadlocks and a rastafarian hat is racist to some because of her skin color, and some see it as using a culture as a joke.

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HaterAssasin96 [2015-10-17 20:42:16 +0000 UTC]

My biggest problem with them is how incredibly one-note they are, the same problem I had with the Geniuses and the LARPers. It's so obvious that they were just used to fill up space.

Aside from that, I didn't know they were hated so intensely. It's not new for a white person to have cornrows or dreadlocks. It's uncommon, but it's not new. It's also not racist in any way, no more than it is racist for white people to rap (tho that depends if they happen to rap any racist rhetoric, which itself would be incredibly ironic... I'll just stop now before I start to ramble).

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TotalDramaFan44 [2015-10-17 19:51:23 +0000 UTC]

I liked them.

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Du-Loch [2015-10-17 18:21:34 +0000 UTC]

I didn't realize they were hated. I'm pretty neutral on them.

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ElenaTotalDrama [2015-10-17 17:51:48 +0000 UTC]

The Laurie's eyes and eyelids look like Gwen's eyes

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GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-17 16:46:40 +0000 UTC]

Their hatebase is that big? What?

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1997kid In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-17 17:04:46 +0000 UTC]

Hey. I hope you have been doing well.

Well on Wiki and Tumblr it is at least. People just rag on and complain about them. Even on DeviantArt, people have really low opinions of them.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to 1997kid [2015-10-17 17:27:16 +0000 UTC]

Well enough, thanks for asking. Good to have you back, man. Yeah, I'm surprised at this, most seemed genuinely remorseful about how they ultimately lost. And the dreadlocks.....c'mon people, never seen a girl with curly hair before? What's so offputting about how she looks? People just sound like they're being oversensitive, I don't know.

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KanonSeaDragon In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-26 23:20:34 +0000 UTC]

I mean, is the  same people who hate a stright ship just for being straight, lol

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-26 23:25:16 +0000 UTC]

Search me.

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KanonSeaDragon In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-26 23:55:03 +0000 UTC]

do you have tumblr account,

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-26 23:55:36 +0000 UTC]

Nah.

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KanonSeaDragon In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-26 23:19:55 +0000 UTC]

we are talking  about tumblr, bud. Those people have issues

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-26 23:24:52 +0000 UTC]

Every site has its share of unpleasant people.

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KanonSeaDragon In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-26 23:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yeah. But there it looks like a cult, buddy  When a opinion became popular, often for this supossed social reasons, you better be agree with it.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-26 23:56:01 +0000 UTC]

I try not to get embroiled in that sort of stuff.

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KanonSeaDragon In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-10-27 00:01:36 +0000 UTC]

Same here 

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to KanonSeaDragon [2015-10-27 00:19:35 +0000 UTC]

Better that way.

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Emperor-Lucas [2015-10-17 16:45:57 +0000 UTC]

It seems like the biggest reason why these two are hated is because of Laurie's design. Many people have said that her design (the Jamaican beanie and dreads) is culture appropriation (ex: a white man wearing a Native American war bonnet as an accessory). So people have seen her design as cultural appropriation because she is white. However, I think that the argument has become invalid because Fresh has confirmed that she's biracial. (All of this is what I've seen on Tumblr though, not other social media.)

So other than that, I don't know why they're hated. They are 100% not my favorites (the Surfers own the key to my heart ♥) but I don't see the problem with them.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 [2015-10-17 16:24:43 +0000 UTC]

Really? I never noticed the hate about them. ...And I don't get it either, I personally see no problem with Laurie having dreadlocks.

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1997kid In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2015-10-17 16:32:56 +0000 UTC]

People made a HUGE deal about the dreadlocks on Tumblr. Their hate is probably the lowest here compared to other places, but I see them ranked last or second to last so often, and I don't get it.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to 1997kid [2015-10-17 17:08:15 +0000 UTC]

Ohhhh, I don't really delve much in the TD fandom itself on Tumblr. And I thought the people hating Noah being straight was bad.

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2000thcenturyLinda [2015-10-17 16:12:15 +0000 UTC]

I personally like the vegans

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BeekerMaroo777 [2015-10-17 16:09:42 +0000 UTC]

I don't understand the hate either, my friend.

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