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Actually none of them are. It's opinions we can't prevent. So yeh idk
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Oh my gosh, you are amazing! Homophobia is the worst epidemic! Recently, someone told me that I am morally wrong for being bisexual, and that he also told me that my sexuality is invalid for the human race, then he told me that I must get therapy so I could be straight, "valid", and "normal". I felt so sad.
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i know this is old, but i hope you're doing alright. i know that being told that youre invalid can hurt and really shake you, depending on the kind of person u are. i want u to know that youre valid and most likely a wonderful person, ok? dont let anyone tell you otherwise
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None of them are. They're just feelings based on each other opinion
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Fun fact; My uncle is gay!
My mom is the only girl in her... well ... whatever it's called.
She got I think.. three brothers?
One of 'em is Homosexual! I didn't think about as younger, when mom mentioned him and another man's name I just assumed it were one of mom's brothers!
Only recently mom confirmed my uncle being homosexual OwO I don't know him much (only one of my uncles got actual 'good' connection with my family) but I really want too ;w;
I don't know, I just really love having an uncle who's gay XD
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My uncle is gay too! ^w^
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Awesome! Then again my mom was the only girl my grandparents got, out if four kids I think? One of them had to be homosexual I suppose, if its generic. But hey how the EFF should I know?
Nonetheless I am proud of my homosexual uncle!
He's awesome uwu
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But my gay uncle is dead
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Aww...
I'm sorry for you D:
him.. urr.. whoever to feel sorry for!
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I don't want to start an argument, but I'm kind of just going to go over what homophobia is..
Homophobia is a phobia/fear of homosexuals. They can't help being afraid of something, can they? I understand if they show off their 'homophobia', or if they say they are homophobic but really they just hate homosexuals, but honestly.. It's not a sickness. Actual homophobic people are one of the nicest you'll ever meet! They're just uncomfortable around gay people, but they're not rude or hateful. They're rather respectful, despite their slight panic attacks. My friend in my class is homophobic, and she's been bullied badly for it at her old high school because of their stupid Gay Rights campaign. What I mean by 'stupid' is the fact that everyone took it far too seriously and they hated her because she had frequent panic attacks. They started to call her 'different' and they kept on saying that she hates homosexuals. That Gay Rights campaign was more of a mockery for homosexuals to be honest since everything was exaggerated, saying that gay people live a 'wild, active life' when really they live normally like everyone else.
Everyone confuses homophobia with a hatred of gay people and that's what's the sickness in our society.
Well, at least a few of us agree on it anyway...
just to point out, i did not use the word 'gay' in an offensive manner. i meant it as a shorter word for 'homosexuals', so don't bother me about this.
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As these people "suffering" from a "phobia" of gays are all immature kids, are you sure it's just not that they think gays are icky and that you're over-analyzing it all?
Homophobia were not meant to describe a mental issue, but bigots and their disdain for homosexuals. It's not an actual phobia. All words are not meant to be taken literally.
And I think it's really sad that perfectly good people, or rather kids in this case, adopt the label in the delusion that they are homophobes. They're not. They're kids. They hate broccoli one week and the next they're all over it, but suddenly dislike bald men because they're kids. All their dislikes and feelings of disgust are not phobias.
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Sadly Sir, that is either a blatant lie or sheer ignorance. There exists no such thing as an actual fear of homosexuality. It's always just pathetic hatred.
So despite the name, homophobia is not a phobia, but a group-focused enmity. As is racism, by the way.
Racists however, as pitiful as they are, at least have the dignity to admit openly that they just hate other "races".
Homophobes, on the other hand, are so despicable, that they would even camouflage their disgusting misanthropy as a sickness.
With all due respect, the people who claimed that your friend hates homosexuals, might indeed be right.
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On some ways you're right, on some wrong. People are afraid of many different things, even some of the most 'pathetic' and miscellaneous, so you can't ever say something doesn't exist.
I am by no means defending homophobic people that much as I probably rambled on about. There obviously is a majority of homophobes who do hate others for their sexuality - from ordinary folk to even the most respected. It doesn't mean that there isn't a scale of how bad it really is. The reason you don't see many people with mild homophobia is because it's simply so rare that they even know other people's sexuality (no one goes around asking people that anyway).
I have to be a little harsh and say, it's incredibly ignorant and hypocritical of you to even think that these people are attention-seeking narcissists who camouflage something up like that. I can't blame you though. I'll have to rant at the media for this problem. On a positive note, people with mild homophobia grow out of it by the time they're adults.
Even if she did hate them as much as it is thought, should she be treated so inhumanely like that? Should she be bitched on for her views? Believe it or not she has a bi friend of her own, and guess what - they're best friends! No one sees her rubbing it into peoples faces that she prefers to be straight a lot more. I don't know what's going on in her mind, but one thing that's definite is that she certainly isn't disgusted or abusive.
She's normal. Those kind of people with her range are too; as normal and dignified as any human can be. It surely must be and feel dreadfully embarrassing to deny them of living and their rights as it is to deny a gay person?
Whoops, forgot one thing: no one wants to be called an obscene and repulsive human being for saying No to being gay! :>
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Believe, that there exists the fear of homosexuality if you must. It is still a lie.
I didn't call them narcissists. I called them disgusting misanthropes.
How exactly does that make me a hypocrite? Never did I condemn someone for something he cannot influence. Like for example his sexual orientation, or his nationality.
I however do condemn those, who do exactly that.
And people with "mild" homophobia will not discard their dehumanizing views without someone calling them out on it.
Such problems do not solve themselves.
So yes, if someone dislikes other people for their sexual preferences he deserves to be treated the same way, he treats them. With hate and disgust.
If your friend is a homophobe, she certainly opposes gay marriage, no? How can she call herself that bisexual woman's friend, if she is not even granting her the joy of marriage?
As aforementioned, you cannot compare homophobes and homosexuals. The former have freely chosen their path of hatred, whilst the latter cannot simply change their sexual orientation.
At least that, you must understand.
I do not call them obscene, or repulsive. I call them fiends. I call them demons! How do they even dare to bother what two loving people do behind their bedroom door?
They have no right to say "no" to being homosexual.
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You clearly don't want to understand what I said, therefore I'm not going to even bother carrying on. Your opinion.
You're horribly mislabeling someone. Nobody deserves to be called awful things like that if they're clearly not doing anyone any harm. You don't know other people's circumstances or how they got their problems, let alone how severe things are, so be less narrow-minded when you reply.
Once again, if there was any hatred involved in their views then I wouldn't ever stick up for them, because it is wrong and immoral to hate someone because of things they cannot control, like you said. I know however that "mild" homophobes don't evolve around hatred, but out of anxiety. It's hypocritical that you insist that something a lie when you know it isn't. 7 billion people on Earth and counting: how can you not know by now that such things are possible? Don't try to deny it, it just makes you look more 'clueless'.
I'm not even going to go through what my friend has been through from such a young age to make her dislike the thought of being homosexual; this is the most known cause of mild homophobia. There have never been enough cases of this type of homophobia to even make some research on it since sufferers usually let go of their past experiences soon enough. I'm proud to say that my friend is kind of over that now.
I see I forgot to tell you that we're 14 to 15 year old girls - minors. Minors do not marry. Minors have distorted and stubborn views as they're growing up yet there is a risk of developing mental disorders throughout adolescence. I'm telling you now, since most cases of homophobia of any type are in the minor age group, it's by no means 'cool' or 'edgy' to say no to a particular type of sexuality. In fact, if you say that you prefer being straight you are immediately an outcast; a fiendish, demonic, disgusting misanthrope with dehumanising views.
Never compared homophobia to homosexuals. They're quite different.
Did you seriously and actually just type that people have no right to say 'no' to being homosexual? In the least-offending way possible, how dare YOU say that? Anyone has the right to choose their sexuality, whatever age or gender.
So I too am a "fiendish, demonic, disgusting misanthrope with dehumanising views" just because I prefer being straight? Why, thanks a lot, considering it's my choice of whether I want to be straight or not. I can't help but prefer guys (I'm a girl). I can't help my sexual orientation! And just because I prefer being straight and I wouldn't mind if it stayed that way, it doesn't mean that I 'freely chose a path of hatred' towards homosexuals! I haven't even been diagnosed with a social phobia, yet it seems like you're probably going to throw me in the same bag and call me something inhumane too.
I don't want to start an argument on the internet because I simply commented a fact and someone doesn't agree with it. I respect that you think homophobes like my dear friend's type are anything but human, but there are other more sad things in this world than what gender you like better.
The only reason I want to reply back is to give you an insight on what actually happens in this world. People are being praised for discriminating religious groups simply because they believe in mysticism, yet people choose to pick on others for tiny and quite unnoticeable flaws in their character.
REMINDERS for the stupid: I don't feel sorry for homophobic people who actually hate others because they are too stubborn to realize how immoral they are to their own kind.
I don't take sides. I try to stay neutral and not accuse both sides of the homophobia argument, however some flaws in common reasoning need to be pointed out.
And lastly, yes - I like being straight.
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Fair enough. Maybe there are people who actually fear homosexuals. As you said, there are many individuals in this world. There might be even people who are affraid of the sound that occurs when you rub your index finger against your thumb.
However, these people are NOT homophobes, but something that has no name yet. For homophobia is the word that describes the enmity towards homosexual people.
If there is a man or a woman, who actually and genuinely is afraid of people who prefer to copulate with partners of the same sex, then he or she really is to be pitied.
Then they regrettably have a severe mental disorder, that I have never heard of.
And you're still talking about that "mild" homophobia thing, as if it was an actual sickness. In the next sentence however, you admit that it is nothing more than juvenile stupidity.
Nevertheless, homophobic thoughts are vile and it matters not if their thinker is young or old. It is not so, as if you'd magically get open-minded once you turn 18.
You say most young homophobes change, once they are adults? I think the opposite is the case and most of them will stay the malign demons they were before.
So I think your friend was a rare exception, if she really just "stopped" being homophobic.
But what do you mean with that "cool" and "edgy" part? You want me to pity them, for being outcasts?
And yes, of course you did not compare those two! I mean that those who do not tolerate others are not allowed to claim tolerance for their intolerance.
For example: You cannot say, that you do not tolerate homosexuals and then lament because others do not tolerate you for that.
Clear now?
For the last part I apologise. English is not my mother tongue, therefore I do not know, if you just misunderstood, or if I have been ambiguous in my writing.
Of course I meant that none is allowed to say "no" to OTHERS being homosexual. I sincerly believed that this was, what my text said.
I myself am not homosexual.
And yes, there are bigger problems in this world. There is war almost everywhere. The rich opress the poor. We still did not achieve the equality of the genders. And yes, there also exists discrimination against religious people. I know that. Believe it or not, but I am a somewhat devout Muslim. However, to be fair, there is discrimination against atheists as well.
That does not mean however, that minor problems should be ignored. None of all these problems can be solved by a mere man, or a mere woman. But we must at least try.
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I see we're mostly on terms now!
For me, in a way it is something that's not right with the mind. It is very strange to be afraid of your own kind or of something to do with it, such as sexuality or skin colour, however it isn't abnormal. So yes, if the person really does have this sort of problem then they are to be pitied, hopefully not in a mocking way!
The 'mild homophobia thing' is a sort of problem with your mind, of course I'm not saying that these people have mental conditions. Phobias are all mental problems and with our ever-changing society and habitat as a species, we're more prone to them, whatever our characters. Social phobias are easier to treat than, for example, insectophobia because you pick up and learn traits and habits from other peers to overcome it.
I'm not sure where those sentences were, but I most likely meant that although it's quite unnecessary to be (mildly, of course) homophobic, it is still something that people should acknowledge and treat as soon as possible before it gets any worse.
Of course all homophobic thoughts are bad when they're against people, however in the rare exception it was just a matter of being scared that she was going to turn gay and hurt someone else*. Unbelievable stuff really. If I went through what she did, then I probably would think the same, if I were honest. The reason she finally let go of it all was because she met her new bi best friend who showed her that not all gay people were as vile as she thought they were, that they weren't going to harass her I mean. She still is cautious of who she is near with but not to such an extent where she screamed out of the library. A lot less stubborn, I'd say, for she admitted that she has been wrong all along. Coming to think of it now, it seems more like a paranoia... that went away far too quickly.
Basically in primary school some girl was harassing her. (I don't want to believe that 10 year olds can do that to each other, but it happened.) So she thought she might "go crazy", become gay and do the same to others. This is the simplest way I can tell you really, since it's a pretty gross and logic-defying story that I don't really want to share on the internet.
When you enter the phase of becoming an adult, from around 18 to 25, then you meet diverse groups of people who often change the way you look at others, especially in college and universities. In adolescence it is most common to develop it, because annoying brats in high school aren't as understanding and will make the problem worse, often by cyberbullying on social media e.g. [omg look at dis person shes liek so homophobic cos she dont wanna b gay liek how mean is that!!! everyone unfriend that bEtCh!! #murder #this #slut xxxxxx p.s i snogged liek 3 guyz 2nite haha #soperfect LOL!! xx].
Some however may just have a more immoral sense and the problem will get worse, to the point where they are extremely arrogant and proud of it.
With the 'cool' and 'edgy' part, I meant that some adults look at teens and think that they find mental disabilities, homophobia and satanism edgy and hipster. So I just explained that this is never the case and that they'll think of you as some kind of 'downer'. It's considered cool and edgy to hate homophobia - the more violently you hate it, the "better". I wasn't trying to imply a sense of respect for homophobes on anyone, but just generally to top off the subject about developing it in adolescence.
I understand this now, thank you for explaining! I can already feel how annoying it must be when you see people hating others for being homosexual, yet they wonder why others hate them for hating...? I'm not sure if I made any sense, cos' English isn't my first language either. But I know exactly what you mean!
Now I apologise deeply for this. I got carried away I suppose. I'm very sorry - it's probably a sign that I should think before I say stuff too 
And I agree with everything you said here as well! So yeah, we agree on that.
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This seems like a good point to stop that conversation, ma'am.
Obviously we agree on the most important parts.
In conclusion I really want to thank you for that high-classed chat.
We should talk about other topics as well someday.
Until then I wish you a nice day and good luck for the future.
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Whoa...yeah, no one really really seems to consider the real implications of it being a real thing. I mean, if it's a mental disorder, they're treating it all wrong - would it be acceptable to treat a mentally ill person horribly instead of trying to help them?
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As every phobia is (in a way or another) a mental disorder, I find it inhumane and disgusting to discriminate people with homophobia. They should treat it just like any other phobia and offer some form of treatment, or at least feel some empathy. After all, we all live on the same planet...
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"I find it inhumane and disgusting to discriminate against people who discriminate against other people"
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I know this is late, but.. homophobia isn't an actual 'phobia' or 'fear'. It's hatred against- and disagreement with homosexuality and homosexuals (just like racism is a hatred against another race).
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No. Homophobia definitely is hatred/disagreement/disrespect against homosexuals. Period.
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Homophobia refers to any negative attitudes or feelings toward homosexuality and/or homosexuals. This encompasses antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred, and irrational fear, which can lead to discrimination and violence.
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My point was that the word "homophobia" doesn't JUST mean hate and discrimination, but fear and contempt as well. In any case, any negative feelings toward a group in its entirety, especially a group whose members are such from birth, are irrational.
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I know what you were getting at.
When I said it is hatred etc. against homosexuals, I didn't mean it's just that. Just roughly and shortened.
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Well, you did add "Period." to the end of your comment, so I felt the need to over-clarify what I meant.
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Because I thought you were the commenter who I originally replied to (I don't remember the names or icons and I check back here quite rarely, you know?), the one who said homophobia is an actual phobia/fear of homosexuals. But yes, as you said, it is a broad term just summarizing negativity against homosexuals, whether it's hate or not.
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Homosexuality is far too common to be considered a genetic disorder; it is however on par with mental disorders.
It is entrenched in, and in part caused by, self-pity turned into narcissism.
This explains the rage people will respond with ("fuck you" for instance, purely emotional with lack of reasonable thought) once they see/hear something disfavorable to the LGBT sociopolitical (non/psuedo-scientific) movement.
Not my words; merely taken from a book and other resources.
I am one with Same Sex Attraction (SSA) if that serves as a "disclaimer". I did not choose it. I never wanted it. I was not born with it.
And I simply do not want it. I'm trying to figure out how my life experiences have set this complexity within me and I would like to get rid of it.
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Wasn't it removed from the lists?
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Well, nope, you can't get rid of it, and it is not caused by "self-pity turned into narcissism", ("This explains the rage people will respond with"), you know I seen a lot of very kind homosexuals, who are neither narcissistic, nor having self-pity. It's caused by a thing called 'imprinting'.
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All depends how much one is willing to read about it to the expense of their "happiness"/comfort. The truth is an ugly thing sometimes.
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Yea, but you know, there are a lot of experiences from gays that tells that it's not a mental disease, was there from birth (or just noticed later, consider that sexuality is a spectrum, not just 100% gay, 100% straight, or bisexual). A mental disease always causes distress to the individual, and I've seen quite much happy gays 
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"I don't think you should fight yourself." *smile!*
I think you'd want me to if I told you of homocidal and suicidal tendencies and being subject to perversions "worse than" homosexuality.
Homosexuality is much too common to be a genetic disorder; its percentage is right on par with mental disorders.
Honestly, if all this misinformation was dispelled (via reading and watching much refusing to be tied down by political correctness) we'd have many angry and betrayed "gays" on our hands. Angry at advocates and angry at an ignorant society that must conform to the current trends.
Unfortunately media! and pride! and emotions and "love! yay!!
It makes me sick.
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"Homocidal". Heh. Heheheheheh.
Homicidal is spelled with two i's
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It's not about that you know. It's a struggle not being discriminated, bullied, beaten, hated, etc.
"I think you'd want me to if I told you of homocidal and suicidal tendencies and being subject to perversions "worse than" homosexuality." You know, people with homicidal and/or suicidal behaviors fight themselves pretty hard, that what keeps it alive.
And about being a mental disorder, please reconsider my statement about the distress thingy. Also, get the opinions of real, intelligent, good psychologists. Useless internet blogs are not good.
And about pseudo-science, not, 1973's stuff was based on real experiences of gays, not on experiments or whatever. Just people didn't listen to them.
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People don't listen to me. You're not listening to me. You don't care about reading material from Real, Intelligent, Good psychologists. Just activists or careerists more afraid of losing their jobs than giving 100% truth to the masses.
I could care less about people getting bullied. I've been bullied. Everyone gets bulled, beaten and hated for many different things. Emotional appeal.
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But since we're on the topic, you can read this quote from acclaimed "lesbian" Camille Paglia:
"Homosexuality is not normal. On the contrary it is a challenge to the norm...Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm...Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction...No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous...homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.
Is the gay identity so fragile that it cannot bear the thought that some people may not wish to be gay? Sexuality is highly fluid, and reversals are theoretically possible. However, habit is refractory, once sensory pathways have been blazed and deepened by repetition-a phenomenon obvious with obesity, smoking, alcoholism or drug addiction--helping gays to learn how to function heterosexually, if they wish is a perfectly worthy aim. We should be honest enough to consider whether or not homosexuality may not indeed, be a pausing at the prepubescent stage where children band together by gender....Current gay cant insists that homosexuality is not a choice; that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort."
Camille Paglia, Vamps and Tramps, (New York: Vintage Books, 1994), 70, 72, 76, 77, 78, 91.
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If you want other material to read I'd more than glad to give it to you. This is the mere tip of the iceberg. =]
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"Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction...No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous" You know, things like incest, pedophilia is found in nature too, and gayness is very, very common, so this argument is invalid. Reproduction of course, but also diversity! Nature loves diversity, only society hates it. A study found, that having more older brothers increase the chance of being gay. In other words, nature is striving to create more and more diversity, but only when reproduction is ensured (having more older bros).
And I don't really think that you understand the mechanics of sexuality, it has nothing to do with what you say. And these "materials" don't worth anything. You're searching icebergs on the Sun. You say, that we can't trust real psychologists, cuz they are afraid to loose their jobs because what they say, so because of that, you turn to non-professional people, who just create ideas. That doesn't make any sense XD. In addition, a lot of psychologists started to claim gayness not a disease, even before it was legalized. The professionals of the medical field and science are very powerful, cuz their word worth a lot more than amateur theory-makers.
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The Animal Homosexuality Myth: [link]
As for the Brothers Study, has it ever occured to you that having many brothers, being the youngest and being babied of all things would make them dependent and perhaps intimidated by said older brothers? The world of the men can be too overwhelming for them so they cling onto the mother (and perhaps a sister) and rather learn their ways of being, because that is where he is most comfortable.
We must take into consideration the environmental aspects that cause homosexuality. (If you insist that homosexuality is 100% genetic, then this discussion is a waste of time.)
The American Psychological Association states [emphasis mine]:
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
There is more grounding in the enviromental (nurture) causes than there is in the latter (nature).
Pound in a lie hard enough and long enough and soon about 60% of the U.S. Population will believe that homosexuality is inborn. And people like me are ignored and ridiculed for having better insight, go figure
Maybe you might not care, but everyone goes through this "homosexual" phase. Everyone, regardless of their current sexual orientation. It's a natural thing that is supposed to lead to identification with your own sex (males look to their father and/or male friends for support in stepping into a "man's world"; females just the same--they naturally will end up with the opposite sex.)
But if anything disrupts this natural phase, it can lead down the road of Same-Sex Attraction, or SSA.
Like if a boy doesn't seem to "fit in" with other males (our culture still clings onto the notion of a "man" being unrealistically strong and thick-skinned; woman have to be "polite, dependent"..)
"The professionals... their word worth a lot more than amateur theory-makers."
They're not gods to put onto a pedestal. They are human and are bound to make mistakes...
Some are real honest with their studies (Mark Regenerus comparing/contrasting the lives of grown children of both same-sex and opposite-sex parents). Others have fabricated evidence or skewed results in the past because they want so much to "prove" that homosexuality is inborn. There are even cases where media! gets the facts wrong and the public is misled. But it's perfect for LGBT advocates.
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"As for the Brothers Study, has it ever occured to you that having many brothers, being the youngest and being babied of all things would make them dependent..." Nope, I know a person who has 4 older brothers, was not 'babied' (exactly the opposite), but still bisexual. (If you insist that homosexuality is 100% genetic, then this discussion is a waste of time.)" Not genetics, I heard that it is caused by the antibodies produced (or not produced, I don't remember) inside the mother's womb.
"poor me I don't belong," becomes self-pity and will seek to enter the world of their same sex any way they can." The problem with this, is that you reversed the temporal order. They, of the others around them realized that they are gay, and then comes the "i don't fit in" feeling, not vice versa, someone being gay cause of discrimination is just ridiculous I think (sorry).
"But if anything disrupts this natural phase, it can lead down the road of Same-Sex Attraction, or SSA." Now you're mixing up things. It's not a 'homosexual phase', it's a sexual development phase. And what you were talking about is the cause of the pedophilic attraction, not 'ssa'. And by 'disease' I meant mental disease, aka mental disorder.
"They're not gods to put onto a pedestal." Sure, but they are quite more educated and trained about the topic.
"and soon about 60% of the U.S. Population will believe that homosexuality is inborn. " the thing is, most people don't care. Cuz it doesn't matter.
And the two main thing that goes here are, that mental disorders always cause distress (I'm saying it now for the third time 
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But there are cases that suggest the opposite.
Antibodies working in the womb, how so? Now I'll give you a chance to elaborate.
Let me give you my own case.
I started to get uncomfortable with the group of girls I was in. They got into the whole boys, makeup, social events thing while I obsessed over cartoons and video games among other things. They kept on trying to change me as well as their mothers (including mine and still well into present times but with different people) but I couldn't stand it. I didn't understand what went so awry.
I appreciated my father over my mother because she was weak in my eyes and there were times I thought I had to take the mother role as well as a big sister/brother role for my sibling(s).
It came to the point where I had slight interest in the opposite sex in middle school. "Apparently" I wasn't as "pretty" as other girls and I grew envious of what they had (better body, looks, better attitude, graceful) and began to put female idols on a pedestal to admire. Soon enough I got to eroticize what should be a natural phase of admiration (taking other life incidents into account) and I ended up wanting to possess another girl. This wasn't a faked Same-Sex Attraction because the fantasies and feelings were so strong.
So I know that it isn't chosen; it isn't asked for. I just didn't want it and this was way before I heard the "threats" of a "homophobic society". I didn't even know what name to give it! But I hated it; I hated other girls. Save rare exceptions.
My experiences with males were unfortunate. Either too cold or too brash in their approach. My experiences with women were unfortunate. Forced into one experience (explains my hatred) and duped into another.
It's taking me a lot of self-effacing to tell you this.
Pedophilia and homosexuality are both sexual deviations from the norm. This can also describe partially the cause of Same-Sex Attraction.
Yeah, and an ideology can hold a monopoly on schools of thought and research and censor (fire) truthful publications, tearing them away from public view because the LGBT are so powerful. They've lied to me and everyone else.
This was an official poll taken. >___>
People don't care now because they've gotten so run down on the same "love is love" and "equality" jargon. Beat the drum long and hard and you'll wear 'em out.
I'm aware of the existence of feminine lesbians and masculine gays (I've met them). I can't give you everything at once because there's too much to tell.
Homosexuality causes me and other people I know distress; so I can't call it a branch out of a mental disorder?
Am I supposed to embrace the "I was born this way" ideology with no questions asked like an idiot? No siree; I'd rather be "miserable" knowing the truth than "happy" being ignorant in a so-called community that turns their back on you if you dare disturb the peace.
*sigh* ... forgive me giving you the brunt of my frustration.
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Well, how do you know, that not your sexuality caused such a relation to the girls and boys (being attracted to girls and be cold to boys).
"People don't care now because they've gotten so run down on the same "love is love" and "equality" jargon". No, they don't care, cuz as they say it, even if it was a choice, it's their business to choose who they are with, unless it's not hurtful. And I completely agree, cuz homosexuality doesn't hurt, and the so-called 'norm' is man-made, and extremely flexible.
And I think the distress is not because of the sexuality, it's from some other things, cuz you know, I've seen a lot of gays without any distress
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The wording seems off. I don't understand what you asked.
I'm very sure I know myself real well (neurotic as they come, envious of others but recognizing that and trying to change that; I am making progress in that so it ain't a lost cause).
I do have an attraction to men that rarely manifests, because of fear of being treated differently if I say anything. I was more than grateful when I told another woman (who considers herself lesbian) that I had feelings for her; didn't take advantage of me as I didn't take advantage of her.
Homosexuality is not a choice; it does hurt people in profound ways.
Man joining with Woman is part of Natural Law. No religion or man-made rule was needed to prove what Nature has already grounded.
I'm trying my best not to take that as an insult
No distress until someone tells them that they weren't born gay >___> Hence narcissistic rage as a response so that someone else can get up to protect their inner child.
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Hurt people in a profound way? What? And can you explain how?
"Man joining with Woman is part of Natural Law." And as I said, diversity is natural too. Nature's aim is to create as much difference as it can. It's only society that wants to stereotype things, and remove the 'abominations'. Nature doesn't want to do that.
"No distress until someone tells them that they weren't born gay >___> Hence narcissistic rage as a response so that someone else can get up to protect their inner child." Then the distress is from the discrimination, no the gayness itself -_-.
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Buying into LGBT ideology stunts their ability to mature emotionally and think objectively about their sexuality. Those with same-sex attraction have a neurotic disposition.
It hurts me because it entraps me in longing for the things I "lack" in another member of the same sex, knowing I'll never possess that characteristic(s). Being in a gay-affirming society only drives my suicidal tendencies further; I can't be forced to accept an ideology which I know from personal experience and curiosity-driven research (not forced into me by outside influences) isn't true.
Why be comfortable believing in a lie?
You didn't read the article on the Animal Homosexuality Myth, did you?
We can't bring ourselves down to the level of non-rational (driven by impulse with stimuli) beings. We mistakenly personify animals as having the same emotions and types of thoughts as we do.
Our sense of ethics / morals applies only to the human species, not the latter.
But you're okay with cannibalism, infanticide? Since that's in nature (animal and lower organism realm), why don't we allow it with humans?
It's not discrimination telling the truth. Am I discriminating towards those that smoke or drink excessively by telling them that it's bad in overdoing it?
It's discrimination telling them that they're condemned from the get go for acting on feelings that weren't their choice to have to begin with. I am merely saying that people are misinformed and that change is possible. But I know it's a struggle.
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