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aGentlemanScientist — Feathers vs Scales vs Pycnofibres vs Skin

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Published: 2015-10-03 06:18:46 +0000 UTC; Views: 28116; Favourites: 309; Downloads: 81
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Description A chart composed of various prehistoric animals with direct evidence of their skin coverings, ranging from Yi qi to Corythosaurus.

Important Notes:
-It is debated if Dilophosaurus had feathers due to a possible feather impressions in squatting track fossil in 1997.
-The skin impressions of Attenborosaurus were destroyed in WWII.
-The skin impressions of Estemmenosuchus were recorded by Chudinov in 1965. These skin impressions have not been photographed and have almost no internet presence.
-The tail fluke impression of Platecarpus exists but it does not preserve if it had skin or scales.

Original Image Credit:
Matt Martyniuk
John Conway
www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/
Traheripteryx
Dmitry Bogdanov
Ville Sinkkonen
Nobu Tamura
ArthurWeasley

Sources: 
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic…
www.nature.com/nature/journal/…
markwitton-com.blogspot.com/20…
rspb.royalsocietypublishing.or…
www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1666…
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic…
www.nature.com/nature/journal/…
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Comments: 174

aGentlemanScientist In reply to ??? [2015-10-08 12:53:22 +0000 UTC]

Like I said, there is not enough information to make logical assumption

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ThaRandomAnchiornis1 In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-08 12:58:32 +0000 UTC]

oh okay then, it is just that I always want and believe that there is another group of theropods out there that are covered in feathers

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ThaRandomAnchiornis1 [2015-10-08 15:40:54 +0000 UTC]

I would prefer a feathered Spinosaurus as well! I especially like the idea that it had feather whiskers (something modern day dinosaurs have as well)

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lolIstink In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-30 07:47:21 +0000 UTC]

Although it is not possible to tell if  Spinosaurus had feathers, it most probably didn't because of an aquatic lifestyle. (I'm not against feathers, don't get me wrong) 

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to lolIstink [2015-10-30 08:34:26 +0000 UTC]

Scales and feathers can both be used in an aquatic lifestyle

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lolIstink In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2016-01-02 05:21:30 +0000 UTC]

Okay I forgot about feathers :3

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ThaRandomAnchiornis1 In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-09 00:00:34 +0000 UTC]

modern day dinosaurs aka birds have feather whiskers? Whoa that is totally awesome sauce

a completely feathered Spinosaurus with tiny legs that walks on all fours is My favorite kind of Spinosaurus

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ThaRandomAnchiornis1 [2015-10-09 01:23:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes sure! The modern day Kiwi definitely has whiskers  s3.zoochat.com.s3.amazonaws.co…

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ThaRandomAnchiornis1 In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-09 02:06:06 +0000 UTC]

I never knew that a Bird could have whiskers, thanks for the knowledge

just imagine a Spinosaurus fully covered in water proof feathers, tiny legs, walking on all fours and long whiskers like a Chinese dragon

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ThaRandomAnchiornis1 [2015-10-09 02:20:49 +0000 UTC]

Very cool and no problem . It probably look more like a strange hippo than a Chinese dragon though. 

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ThaRandomAnchiornis1 In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-09 04:33:45 +0000 UTC]

either way it would be such a amazing animal to look at

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ThaRandomAnchiornis1 [2015-10-13 18:43:52 +0000 UTC]

Agreed!

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ThaRandomAnchiornis1 In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-15 00:13:43 +0000 UTC]

I hope We find yet another giant Dinosaur that has hard proof of being covered in feathers

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grisador In reply to ??? [2015-10-07 18:16:59 +0000 UTC]

So; from the aquatic; semi-aquatic & partly aquatic Species-even some Semi-Aquatic avians; I'll bet for Skin\Scaly Spinosaurus...
Or very 'little' furred Spino.


A skinny Synapsid is a First thought

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to grisador [2015-10-08 01:33:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, The skin impressions of Estemmenosuchus were recorded by Chudinov in 1965. These skin impressions have not been photographed and have almost no internet presence.

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grisador In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-12 22:43:52 +0000 UTC]

Just like the case of the Amphocelias ''ghost'' sauropod

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to grisador [2015-10-13 01:00:39 +0000 UTC]

Not exactly. Amphocelias was "discovered" at a time when most if not all paleontologists were more focused on finding bigger and more impressive dinosaurs and not accurate ones (like a paleontology pissing match). Estemmenosuchus was discovered during the dinosaur renaissance when paleontologists changed their approach to science. Chudinov was a well respected paleontologist that discovered hundreds of well preserved Permian animals in Soviet Russia. He would have reason to lie.

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grisador In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-13 14:02:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh; true !
I quite read those times; named Paleontologist Wars; many even destroy the fossils they cannot hold; just for their competitors can't reach to them.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to grisador [2015-10-13 14:12:19 +0000 UTC]

The Bone Wars were a sad time in paleontology history. So much destruction! And for nothing!

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grisador In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-13 15:51:08 +0000 UTC]

It's a sign of what Human Jelousy, Greed & Rage can done... A true sign of it !

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ahmonza In reply to ??? [2015-10-07 02:23:59 +0000 UTC]

saw the vid nice puttogether

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ahmonza [2015-10-07 03:00:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Did you enjoy it?

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ahmonza In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-07 03:03:56 +0000 UTC]

yes i did it was a nice breakdown on feathered dinos. and yes they can be scary. i want make a utahraptor with feathers and scary. what type of colors would they most likely have

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ahmonza [2015-10-07 03:07:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! and Utahraptor probably had a similar coloration to modern wolves and foxes based on their environment and niche, they might have been white too like stork. 

Check out some these artists: 

julio-lacerda.deviantart.com/a…

julio-lacerda.deviantart.com/a…

julio-lacerda.deviantart.com/a…

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ahmonza In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-07 03:13:00 +0000 UTC]

i think i can make that scary

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ahmonza [2015-10-07 03:21:58 +0000 UTC]

Yesss! Good luck I'll make sure I check it out! 

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SpinoInWonderland In reply to ??? [2015-10-05 19:38:25 +0000 UTC]

Man, I didn't know that sauropterygians and ichthyosaurs had naked skin.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to SpinoInWonderland [2015-10-07 03:06:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah! The reason you don't hear about it is because the skin impressions of Attenborosaurus were destroyed in WWII.

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SpinoInWonderland In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-07 06:39:49 +0000 UTC]

Looks like the scales on my Atopodentatus will have to go, then.

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CJCroen In reply to ??? [2015-10-04 19:52:23 +0000 UTC]

These are helpful!

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to CJCroen [2015-10-08 15:42:07 +0000 UTC]

No problem

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Traheripteryx In reply to ??? [2015-10-04 15:00:23 +0000 UTC]

It's already ridiculous, how long it took me to notice, who did this Spinosaurus.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to Traheripteryx [2015-10-04 15:21:58 +0000 UTC]

XD it was you!

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Traheripteryx In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-12 17:26:06 +0000 UTC]

Ooooor my evil twin, who was mentioned in JPIII: Tricikloplots rex!

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to Traheripteryx [2015-10-12 18:04:47 +0000 UTC]

 

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DinoBirdMan In reply to ??? [2015-10-04 04:52:55 +0000 UTC]

I can't believe we have two pterosaurs were most(ly) have pycnofibres.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to DinoBirdMan [2015-10-04 15:22:25 +0000 UTC]

Fuzzy pterosaurs for the win!

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to ??? [2015-10-04 03:58:20 +0000 UTC]

Too bad we got nothing for Spinosaurus expect for bacteria on the teeth that proves it was an aquatic hunter/eater

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to ??? [2015-10-04 03:36:45 +0000 UTC]

Wow! Very cool! I can't wait!

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Sounder1995 In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 15:51:21 +0000 UTC]

Is there a small amount of color on the Spinosaurus silhouette or is it actually all black & you simply included it as a general reference?

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to Sounder1995 [2015-10-03 16:24:11 +0000 UTC]

The Spinosaurus silhouette is all back. It is sorta a joke because we know absolutely nothing about its skin covering

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Dinossword In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 13:59:13 +0000 UTC]

Interesting, and a few species here are a little new to me.

Of course in my fictional story of Dinosauria, the dinosaurs there are intelligent and can talk, and Spinosaurus evolved into something most people were familiar with, but still has webbed feet, but their similar to human hands, which do have little webbing.

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AntoninJury In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 12:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for this very important document !!!

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to AntoninJury [2015-10-03 16:25:53 +0000 UTC]

No problem

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Boverisuchus In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 12:07:11 +0000 UTC]

You should put in Prognathodon, that is known from tail fluke and pectoral fluke impressions.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to Boverisuchus [2015-10-03 16:25:32 +0000 UTC]

I left them black because we do not know if they had scales or skin, but I think I probably should color the tail in

Thank you

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KiashiChan In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 11:05:23 +0000 UTC]

Spinosaurus isn't quadrupedal anymore ?

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acepredator In reply to KiashiChan [2015-10-03 19:00:33 +0000 UTC]

It never was. It just had short legs.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to KiashiChan [2015-10-03 18:27:46 +0000 UTC]

Currently it has a posture similar to a Pangolin i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/a…

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KiashiChan In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2015-10-03 19:04:40 +0000 UTC]

Maybe they were walking on two legs and (maybe rarely) running on all four (?) . I really don't see a massive animal like this running on these such tiny, little legs.

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