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Published: 2017-07-30 18:57:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 5035; Favourites: 46; Downloads: 68
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Description A rough timeline of ancient texts (mostly ones in relation to the Hebrew Bible) that I did mainly for fun, but might be used in some later videos

Tell me if I need to make any corrections or anything.ย 
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CristusMancus [2019-06-15 23:11:56 +0000 UTC]

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sin-and-love [2017-08-04 20:01:19 +0000 UTC]

Enlarging the picture only moves it to the right slightly; the text is still too small to be legible.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to sin-and-love [2017-08-05 01:53:45 +0000 UTC]

Downloading it will help

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ropen7789 [2017-07-31 05:20:18 +0000 UTC]

well my art history lecturers would love to see this

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to ropen7789 [2017-08-03 07:00:27 +0000 UTC]

Great

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PetroBeherha [2017-07-31 00:26:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much, Trey. It's very nice to show something other than those wild conspiracy theories.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to PetroBeherha [2017-08-03 07:00:21 +0000 UTC]

No problem Happy to help

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dinodanthetrainman [2017-07-30 23:31:05 +0000 UTC]

OK, where did my comment go?
If you hid it let me know, or confusion will grow.
I am rhyming oh no.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to dinodanthetrainman [2017-07-31 02:47:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, never saw your comment so I couldn't tell yah

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dinodanthetrainman In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2017-07-31 15:26:18 +0000 UTC]

OK you will find out if you do thorough research, but this one is hard to find www.talkorigins.org/faqs/floodโ€ฆ if you are not specific.

And this one makes me laugh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wโ€ฆ

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IrishWolf2468 [2017-07-30 19:29:44 +0000 UTC]

Yessss! ย I don't see any corrections that need to be made, all looks pretty correct.
Perhaps the Flood story was true, but not in a grand scale as it's presented in the Bible, if I remember correctly it's based off of a Mesopotamian myth?,ย I'm thinking more of a man who had saved a fair share of his family members and live stock (Goats, sheep, donkeys, and camels), but due to history loving poetry over what happened, the Israelites were more oral people so I'd expect great exaggerations like how Goliath was apparently "9 feet tall" (probably more around 5'9 seeing as the Israelites weren't all that tall), or how they apparently broke a wall by shouting and the sound of trumpets, I'd expect there'd be some exaggerations
Please make videos on ancient Semitic cultures when you find the time, it's not talked about enough IMO.

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to IrishWolf2468 [2017-07-30 19:57:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I definitely think it is likely that the biblical flood had some basis in history, but as a local event that was highly mythologized after the fact. Archeological and geological evidence shows that the city of Shuruppak in Mesopotamia was swept up by a local flood around 2900 BCE. The oldest texts that reference a great flood normally state that "Noah" of the story was a king of Shuruppak (such as Atrahasis or Ziusudra). I think the biblical flood was based on these early texts which themselves were based off the real event. Exaggerations were made to make this local event become the flooding of the entire world. To these people a flood of such magnitude would probably feel like the whole world was flooded.

No problem! I'd definitely love to make a bunch of videos on the early influences of the bible and Judaism because few people get to hear about it

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CameronDillon In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2017-07-31 04:54:02 +0000 UTC]

I agree with your statement trey! I did hear that Mesopotamia used round circular boats and larger boats made by native reeds instead of the gigantic tree pillars that everyone is used to to safely get their families and livestock to another area. Correct me if I am wrong, but I was talking to one of my friends about the origin of Noah's ark and they state that Mesopotamia during 4900yrs ago was below sea level and that the people must had thought that the rising waters were a sign of god because they had no prior experience dealing with this kind of natural cause like the Egyptians had to face this the hard way. After analyzing your chart, I would certainly say it is very accurate because when Mesopotamia came to a downfall, the government didn't have any more money to support the long schooling of writers so within the next couple generations, nobody could read their own writing anymore. The only way for the people to record their terrifying encounter is by telling word for word so we have nearly a thousand years of tell tales and making the story bigger to make what is now Noah's ark.ย 

I just to to give you a huge thanks for giving effort and pride into making reliable resources to educate us! It is a very scary time period right now to be an atheist in a ย country where there will be lots of negative feedback if someone doesn't believe in Christianity in most areas. I truly appreciate it a lot!ย 

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to CameronDillon [2017-08-03 07:05:34 +0000 UTC]

Very true. I believe your friend is correctly referring to the flood of Shuruppak which occurred roughly around 2,900 BCE. This flood was a local event that flooded a great portion of the civilized world and appears to have been used to date events and in mythology/folklore after the fact. Noah's flood appears to be based off of this real event and then exaggerated. Over countless generations of Oral tradition a story about a small flood became a punishment from God(s).

and no problem always happy to help spread the truth

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Blairaptor In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2017-07-30 20:48:52 +0000 UTC]

No rush but that would indeed be a great video! I'm a Christian who was raised in the church but there's just so much history to learn and I know so little of it, and it's important to be honest about where my texts come from. One of my college classes talked about "ultimate questions" about myths and truth, etc. and it was a great food for thought but yeah you could make a ton more classes on just those topics so anything to learn more is appreciated. ^^

(also I just watched your 10,000 BCE video and enjoyed that too; I don't know much about that time period so it's fun to learn new things)

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to Blairaptor [2017-08-03 07:07:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks and that's great! I would love to do a video on the subject and I'm happy to see interest from others.
It's very cool to hear from a christian perspective, I wish more Christians learned about the subject in a rational and scientific manner like you appeared to do. Most churches (at least the one's I've seen) tend to be dishonest about their history and fanatically deny the evidence.
I too absolutely love early human history so expect more videos on the topic

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NASavanna [2017-07-30 19:15:51 +0000 UTC]

Nice work! Saw it on your Twitter, it's very useful for debates.ย 

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aGentlemanScientist In reply to NASavanna [2017-07-30 19:23:12 +0000 UTC]

Great! There's a ton of scholarly information about the origins of Judaism and monotheism in general, but most people don't even bother to look (mainly because they don't really want to hear it). Happy to help out I do a ton of reading and research on the subject so I'd love to help out.ย 
Most people, especially in America, believe the Bible is the oldest text in history, but the oldest texts of the Bible we have doesn't even go back to 1,000 BCE and is thousands of years younger than many of the texts of older religions that were the predecessors and ancestors to Judaism. I find it fascinating!

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CristusMancus In reply to aGentlemanScientist [2019-06-15 23:11:09 +0000 UTC]

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