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ShoppeKeeper In reply to DD2111 [2014-05-10 04:03:36 +0000 UTC]

Looks like Bell Cross from Heroic Age

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fenrysk-art In reply to Earig [2014-05-08 21:07:28 +0000 UTC]

Earig it's a bullpup configuration rifle. the mag feeds into the barrel from behind the trigger so that the weapon has a shorter profile while still maintaining a longer barrel length. The angle of the mag doesn't make much sense but it can be rationalized that the mag curves within the stock. 

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RagnarokEOTW In reply to fenrysk-art [2014-05-09 13:40:11 +0000 UTC]

Even so, it's fair to say that it makes the same mistake as many other fictional bullpup rifles - the bolt needs space behind the magazine to cycle, but the magazine is so far back that it's not allowed this space.

There's not a single bullpup rifle out there that has the magazine this close to the butt of the weapon.

However, such that I am not only criticising, I will add that the robot itself is very cool.

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ShoppeKeeper In reply to RagnarokEOTW [2014-05-10 04:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps that is true in the present, but obviously  this is intended as concept art, and a sci-fi piece as such, who's to say what technology has evolved to? Maybe it doeestn need to cycle? Maybe it is cycled from the front? Maybe it shoots laffy taffy, or sharp pencils...who knows... 15 years ago many current technologies would seem impossible or improbable.

I understand that sometimes people criticize to try and help an artist, but really, its art, and it quickly enters that realm of what is their creation vs reality and then really, the importance of accuracy can be argued as well. Im only saying so because...well I love how you noticed the gun, but ignored the fact its a robot with teeth...lol SMH

but ya cool I agree.

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RagnarokEOTW In reply to ShoppeKeeper [2014-05-10 16:38:05 +0000 UTC]

There have been very few developments in firearms operation over the last few decades.

Oh, certainly, the manufacturers would like us to believe otherwise, but there's been very few fundamental changes in the last half century. Hell, militaries are still putting in orders for the M1911, more than a century old! (Although, to be fair, it did get a minor redesign in 1924, but these were small ergonomic changes - the internal functionality remains unchanged).

Alternative actions have been proposed, but the thing is, there's not an especially large amount of funding for these ideas - two notable examples, the HK G11 and Metal Storm are both mothballed, because there's no current need to replace what we have right here and right now. Bear in mind, new designs carry a cost of decades of testing and millions of dollars of investment.

Oh, weapons technology will advance eventually, but this is a very unlikely direction.

> I love how you noticed the gun, but ignored the fact its a robot with teeth
I don't see that as especially strange. Intimidation and symbolism are important parts of combat.

In any case, arguing against things like the teeth would make a big difference to the feel of the piece and would impact on the available creativity. I doubt the position of the magazine was a deliberate creative choice, so I see it as more outside the 'De gustibus' realm you're portraying it as.

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fenrysk-art In reply to RagnarokEOTW [2014-05-09 17:04:45 +0000 UTC]

yeah that thought crossed my mind too

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Earig In reply to fenrysk-art [2014-05-08 21:47:56 +0000 UTC]

oh, my bad
did not knew those. (not a big gun fan actually)

it does make sense then

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