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Another MLP FanFic Pic!
This is a chapter heading for a FanFic. Commissioned by a good friend of mine.
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The fanfic is by a friend of mine, techogre.
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LOL.
Well...Commissions are that way. Sometimes someone will ask: can you draw this for me?
Then I say 'Maybe. Let me try.'.
Then, someone says -- do another one!
..then money changes hands, I tear a little piece of my soul off, put it in a jar, and know that I sold myself....
Then you have a pony picture.
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for real, what is with all these sugary ponies on this site all of a sudden?
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Well, sudden is not the right word - the madness has begun with the start of first season of MLP:FiM
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um, that didn't answer my question what so ever
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Its quite simple, really.
MLP:FIM has a massive fan base. Being full of both artists and fan-girl/boys (or some combination of the two)who like drawing fan art (and are good enough at it to get onto the front page), DeviantART is always full of fan stuff. And since the show is so popular, ponies pop up quite a lot. I don't see the problem here.
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this is a show, and this is what channel?
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It airs on the Hub , channel owned by Hasbro - so it has Transformers, GI Joe, Strawberry Shortcake, and yes, My Little Pony.
Though there are also episodes uploaded by fans on YouTube, and Hasbro seems to not take them down.
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Sounds like it's intended for children
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It's intended for children and their parents to enjoy together. And since parents are adults, show can be enjoyed by people at pretty much every age.
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parents are adults, so you watch it because parents watch it with their kids? you can't be serious about this stretched technicality. dude the reason parents watch cartoons with their kids (daughters in this case) is so they can be in touch with their daughter interests and get closer through understanding them. "since parents are adults" is completely unrelated to that part of parenting. not even all parents are adults, some are 13.
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No. It's aimed at parents too. It was made with adults in mind, for this reason - so parents* could watch it and enjoy it together with their kids, rather than just "be happy that their kids are happy".
It is just legitimately entertaining show. No mystery. Nothing special. It's just well made cartoon.
* - I don't think teenaged parents are big demographic, and surely they wouldn't be acknowledged by TV network executives...
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well it's not like the parents just decide to go watch some sesame street or rainbow bright by themselves during their spare time. like I said, being a parent doing an activity with their daughter and simply being an adult are completely different.
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But this show is made with adults in mind. It is. If it would be just another childish stupid show, people wouldn't be obsessing over it, would they?
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um, that has nothing to do with what I said. for real, are you even reading my posts, or are you just going strait to reply?
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Of course I read your posts, sorry if I somehow misunderstood you.
You are of course right, majority of kids entertainment is infantile, and aimed exclusively at kids, parents being out of the equation - nobody wants to make cartoons attractive for them. But that's not always the case.
Let's take for example, Shrek. Shrek was a hit, because it was a movie that kids would want to watch, and which adults would also want to watch on their own, too.
Similar situation is here - rather than creating another stupid girly show full of pointless tea parties, Lauren Faust, creator of new MLP, decided to make a show that can be enjoyed by anyone, whatever their age (or gender) would be.
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no one wants to make cartoons attractive for parents? there are a ton of adult animated shows.
as for shrek, shrek is a film where almost every character is an adult, mostly aimed towards males and consists mostly of farting, butt kissing, vomiting and characters getting killed. pretty much opposite of my little pony which is famous for being extremely sugary and feminine, more so than any other show I can think of. so ya, I would not call that a "Similar situation".
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I'm talking about targeting towards adults AND kids. When show is for kids, it's usually too infantile for adults to watch, while adult cartoons are usually aimed exclusively at adults (you don't see too many kids watching Adult Swim, do you).
And about Shrek, yes, you are right - but that's the closest comparison I could find. It's cartoon that is targeted (mostly) at girls aged 6-14, but it also appeals to adult men (and women). And FiM is nowhere near as sugary and girly as earlier generations of MLP.
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if thats the closest comparison you could find then there is nothing to compare it to. Well, some geeky friends of mine are really into batman and the cartoons. but come on, this is my little pony we are talking about here. I can kind of understand batman and whatever, but (unless you are Michael Jackson) the idea of a adult male with my little pony is borderline alien. I cant even say the words "my little pony" and keep a strait face most of the time.
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Batman is comics and movie franchise about a man who dresses up like a bat, lives in his parents house, beats up insane people and has sex with women dressed as a cat.
Dismissing something based purely on its premise may backfire on you. "Batman" or "Spider-man" also sound incredibly cheesy. As does "Transporter". But would you dismiss them based purely on ridiculous title?
MLP:FiM is nowhere near as girly, sugary or stupid as earlier generations. It's well written series with believable and likable characters, and not insulting viewer's intelligence. It's just a good cartoon.
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ya it sounds stupid. but in terms of a crime fighting guy dressed like a bat and colorful little horses in a world of rainbows, I'd say that batman is less stupid.
as for "nowhere near as girly", I've never seen or heard of this new version till now, but for it to not be girly and childish anymore it would need to be like 98% different than the first version. you weren't too specific explaining the differences either, I mean, believable and likable in what way? believable as in more realistic? you are also describing it as if the original version wasn't successful at all, to the little kids the characters were very "likeable" and "well written". so thats not really a difference either.
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You want differences? Well, for starters, series has actual plot. Storyline different than "have series of random tea parties". Series is not set in "world of rainbows", it's set in a fantasy world, with magic, monsters and different races - even though in place of elves and dwarves there are pegasi and unicorns.
By believable I mean that typical cartoon character is completely flat and one-sided, it takes one word to describ it. They started that way, and they'll be exactly that way until the end. They won't change, they won't grow. It's hard to get attached to piece of paper with "constantly hungry dog, provides comic relief" written on it (Scooby-Doo may have been sometimes funny, but he definitely wasn't complex).
In MLP:FiM, there are many different sides to characters, and they constantly change due to character development. That's what I mean by "believable" - more like real people.
And original version yes, was pretty successful - but it was going downhill from then. Third generation cartoons were completely awful, so Hasbro executives decided to completely change the look of the franchise for Generation 4 - hence the dramatic changes.
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I don't mean to be made of stone here, but thats still sounds very sugary, and the qualities you described aren't uncommon in sitcoms. Many of the shows I watch develop along the way with different sides. it's a great quality, it's just pretty normal formula in shows.
P.S. this show is made by hasbro right? the toy company? are they doing what they did with the old show and marketing little pony figures that have the plastic hair you comb and whatnot? just curious.
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About toys - of course they do. Just like they STILL market morphing robot toys for kids after Transformers movies, and soldier action figures after GI Joe movie. Mind you, merchandise doesn't affect the show, show affects the merch - apart from toys marketed at little girls, there is also stuff marketed at this older demographic (shirts etc.). So, merchandise is addition to the show, not the other way.
And as for pretty normal, but good quality - exactly. This is good quality show. It isn't some completely awesome and extraordinary show, some kind of gift form the heavens - this is just a very good show. Which is kind of rare lately.
And if pegasi fighting dragons "still sounds very sugary" to you, I don't know how to answer, seriously.
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ya, pegasi fighting dragons is very sugary, in clash of the titans or lord of the rings it's not, but if presented this way it is (plus those are two different mythologies) Also "judging by the picture" the art of this new show is actually MORE sugary then that of the first. the character proportions are even smaller (opposed to the first my little ponies which actually looked like real horses to a degree). looking at them I'm sure those characters do very little "fighting" in the show and coming from things that look like that, it would be comical.
my point with "that formula being common in most shows" is, why choose this over all the others with that formula that aren't sugary children shows?
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Yes, character don't fight a lot, but this is not action series, it's comedy series. There are currently a lot of action cartoons airing, but MLP:FiM is not one of them.
Also, sorry, but I think it is impossible to properly judge the show just "by the picture". Believe me - it is actually less sugary and naive than earlier My Little Pony generations, even if character are drawn more "cartoony". As to why choose this one? For me such things as "children show" are not an issue, as long as I like the show. IMO, new My Little Pony is better than most comedy series - the live-action ones - I could find on television, even though it's cartoon, and fact it was originally made (also) for children, doesn't stop me from enjoying it.
This discussion is slowly reaching it's ending point - you have vision of this show based mostly on your guesses and approximations, which is not exactly what show is actually like - and all I can do is to keep saying "No, it's not like that". We don't have material for discussion.
You can try to watch single episode , since they're available on YouTube, and see for yourself. You may not. Choice is yours.
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oh, well I don't know why you used "ponies fighting dragons" as your example then.
Well, not just the picture, I google imaged them too, visually it is sugary, the judgment tells me that much anyway.
so my little pony is the greatest comedy there is then? ok, that has to be an exaggeration, there are hundreds of show.
well, not entirely by guesses, entirely on what you told me so far. I haven't made up anything yet except for the statement. "I'm sure they don't fight that often" which turned out being true.
fine, I'll see the episode
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I never said it's the greatest comedy ever, it's just pretty good comedy. And "ponies fighting dragons" was example of how the world works.
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well you said it outweighs the rest with that formula, thats kind of another way of saying it's the best.
anyway I saw 3 episodes and all I can say is this. it was indeed sugary with things like houses made of ice cream, antics and behavior, the vast majority of characters were female and children, brightly colored and having names like "pinky-pie" etc. they didn't really demonstrate any intelligence but every comedy is like that so I can't complain. unlike the first version it had no human characters that owned them so I don't know where they are getting the MY in my little pony from. It was denser than the first version and there were more shenanigans but I didn't notice anything that an adult or a boy would relate with. pretty much a just girl version of the Ed Edd and Eddy series.
anyway, uncomfortable or not I think I got a lot out of the conversation. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have you describe this "adult liking my little pony" thing and I'm sure I won't be the last. I can't even imagine having to describe this to parents, peers or a mainstream girlfriend. they probably wouldn't care, but ya, see ya
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Houses made of Ice-cream? That was a dream sequence, as a joke about one character's gluttony.
I don't guess you would even notice if majority of characters were male, but somehow majority of female characters makes the show bad?
Whatever.
Well, see ya. I'm glad you said you did got out something out of this conversation.
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no, majority female isn't bad, just girly.
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