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Published: 2018-10-03 09:42:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 38090; Favourites: 1114; Downloads: 64
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"It's October 3rd"It has been, like, a year since my last shitpost. Please allow me a stupid indulgence for two of my favorite franchises.
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CnowFlake [2018-10-03 19:33:52 +0000 UTC]
Edward: Sure!
*easily fits in cramped spot*
Al: I can't fit in there π
XD MAKE THE THING BIGGER WITH MAG- I MEAN ALCHEMY
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Alithographica In reply to GibbonArt [2018-10-03 20:04:36 +0000 UTC]
Please do, we need everybody we can get lmao
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Thaneinthorne [2018-10-03 18:01:37 +0000 UTC]
This picture is how I found your page
I am not disappointed
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Alithographica In reply to Thaneinthorne [2018-10-03 20:02:04 +0000 UTC]
Aw yay, thanks : D
Come for the shitposts, stay for the science and illustrations and fandoms and...more shitposts. My content is terribly inconsistent but hopefully entertaining.
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ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-03 17:00:18 +0000 UTC]
I always wondered why they couldn't produce food using alchemy even if they have all the ingredients. Say, they have a bottle of cream and cocoa beans. Shouldn't they be able to make at least a chocolate bar from it?
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Alithographica In reply to ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-03 19:45:38 +0000 UTC]
I have spent...altogether too much time thinking about the mechanics of alchemy. Basically what I've surmised is that this should be possible, but it's a question of whether the alchemist has the necessary education and understanding of the subject.
Alchemy is basically chemistry, and many alchemists do extensive research in their particular area of alchemyβlike real-life scientists. You have a basic science education but usually only one specialty. I'm guessing that if you dedicated yourself to studying the molecular composition of a chocolate bar, you probably could alchemize one from its ingredients...but it would take a very long time to figure it all out given how many different components are in it, and at the end of it all you only understand chocolate bars. If you want to make bread, you'd have to start over again.
Most of the alchemy we see in the series is fairly simple, relying mostly on refining an existing element or changing its physical makeup rather than its chemical makeup. It also mostly revolves around relatively simple materials like steel or granite rather than complex organic materials like cocoa beans. Whenever Ed transmutes his automail into a weapon, he's probably just hardening it (making it more dense, maybe) and then pulling its shape into a blade. When he makes water warmer he's just agitating the molecules. Armstrong's metal and rock transmutations are probably also just changing density and shape. Etc. Actual chemical recombinations are mostly lab work, as we see with Tucker and when the boys try human transmutation.
...I could keep going. I might've watched FMAB twice this summer lmao
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ImReader-anon21 In reply to Alithographica [2018-10-04 04:03:34 +0000 UTC]
I see what you mean. Most alchemists specialize in a specific field with a corresponding formula. But Ed, due to seeing Truth, has- sorry, had more potential for it.
Can one say cotton is an organic or a synthetic material? Because if you recall the first time they fought Pride, Ed was in the village and purchased a simple blanket of red cloth. By using Alchemy, he turned it into a copy of his robe.
Also, while Ed and Alphonse focus on metal and stone based alchemy, Mustang uses fire alchemy. In his fight with Lust, how was he able to use that to transmute water to split the hydrogen atoms to cause an explosion? Wouldn't that be considered as altering the chemical make up?
If so, that means that chemical alchemy wouldn't be too hard to do. In fact, Wasn't this Kimblee's foxus as the Crimson Alchemist?
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Alithographica In reply to ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-04 22:38:22 +0000 UTC]
(sorry for the essays lmao)
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Alithographica In reply to ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-04 22:38:01 +0000 UTC]
"had" - lol ouch. RIP Ed's alchemy.
What I mean by organic molecule is that it's carbon-based, even if it's synthesized (so organic in the chemical sense, not in the "organic vs synthetic/GMO" sense). Organic molecules tend to form and react in very complex ways. Cotton is organic, but he's just moving pieces around rather than changing it chemically. Wood's organic too but we see the boys make toys from the floorboards - again, the chemical composition is unchanged, they've just moved bits around. That's a lot simpler than breaking down and reshaping the organic bonds. Even common carbohydrates and proteins can be spectacularly complicated.
(Now if we ask the question "why not just make all your clothes from alchemy"...that I don't have a good answer for lmao. It seems like you should be able to. We also see alchemists straight-up rebuilding buildings and repairing radios with alchemy, but the Elrics are prodigies and I guess alchemy is difficult and rare enough that everybody just does it by hand rather than hiring an alchemist.)
Mustang and Kimblee are both performing chemical alchemy, definitely, butΒ their transmutations focus on inorganic molecules. Decomposing water is actually very simple since it's just two hydrogens and an oxygen. Break it, done. Extracting metal from stone would be pretty hard (you'd have to know the type of stone and its rough composition) but we do see the Elrics and other alchemists like Basque Grande do that. Rock composition has probably been widely studied for a long time. Kimblee makes things unstable and Mustang is doing something with oxygen and gases, which is probably the most sensitive alchemy we see regularly in the series. But organic chemistry is an entirely different beast. In 2018 we're still figuring out how several really common organic reactions work. Even though we know the composition of the molecules involved, discovering the steps to get from point A to point B can be very difficult. Hence, the inorganic alchemy is what's used in combat, organic alchemy isn't (at least in the early 1900s). The only on-the-fly organic work we see is Mei's medical alkahestry but alkahestry comes from a different power source and culture so who knows how that works.
Still, that's not to say that what Mustang and Kimblee are doing is easyβthe whole principle of gas alchemy is evidently super complicated and volatile. Berthold Hawkeye spent his life working on it, and Riza is very sure that without her tattoo nobody will figure it out again for a while. But I definitely think a chocolate bar would be at least a few years of work.
(Source: I'm very good at inorganic chemistry, orgo classes were An Entire Struggle.)
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ImReader-anon21 In reply to Alithographica [2018-10-05 04:53:14 +0000 UTC]
I had no idea people with that background would be here to discuss the idea of how a fantasy version of a real world study would be here.
That's pretty cool.
But I guess any reasoning I do is done since my knowledge here is limited. Thanks for responding anyway.
And I guess only one person can create the chocolate bar... Willy Wonka
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Alithographica In reply to ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-05 16:25:02 +0000 UTC]
Willy Wonka was a top alchemist pass it onΒ Β
Haha no worries! If you look at my gallery, you can see that most of my work is actually science stuffβit's what I do lmao. So whenever something sciencey comes my way I tend to latch onto it and try to figure it out. Arakawa generally did a good job of linking it to real-world science.
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ImReader-anon21 In reply to Alithographica [2018-10-05 16:31:19 +0000 UTC]
In that case, consider this Reader a watcher
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Alithographica In reply to ImReader-anon21 [2018-10-21 03:34:07 +0000 UTC]
I'm very flattered! (And also super late to respond, sorry lol)
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Alithographica In reply to GrantExploit [2018-10-03 19:57:24 +0000 UTC]
tbh it's a big 2018 mood.
Who would we need to speak to to rent and convert an ice cream truck...
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phraught [2018-10-03 09:53:42 +0000 UTC]
Ha - love it. Β Consider yourself indulged. Β
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