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Tried to make the actual contexts of the scenes used, the pictures themselves, and the quotes fit with the various alignments. DA took my first one down, so I improved it and re-uploaded.Version 1.1 with better phrasing in NG and NE, and Chaotic Good changed, because that line is so Robin Hood and more important to Lelouch's character.
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Now, I wonder what would happen if you tried to cover Code MENT's Lelouch.
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He needs some guidance, that Lelouch Lamperouge.
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THE LAST ONE SENT ME OVER THE EDGE OH GOSH I'M DYING
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i guess hes on all side of the ball field, Get it?
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Lawful neutral shows suzaku as zero, not lelouch. It's from the last episode.
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So? It's still Lelouch's quote, and Suzaku is acting on Lelouch's orders. Besides, he is killing Lelouch here. Lelouch has killed and killed and killed, and now he is about to be killed by his own command. The image fits the alignment and quote perfectly.
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True. A better pic to use would've been a few seconds later, when lelouch is also in frame.
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Now the real question, which one was the real Lelouch? His goal was nuetral good, but did he even acomplish that? He left her all alone, so, which one is real? All of them, none?
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I think the real Lelouch was the one we saw as he was dying, the one that was willing to destroy and remake the world for his beloved little sister. Β He had worn so many masks throughout his life that even he didn't realize who he truly was until the end. Β I think that's the real Lelouch. Β Everything else was nothing more than a mask (The Demon Emperor) or just another facet of his personality (Zero).
When you think about it, Lelouch is probably one of the most complex characters in any and all anime because he is so well-developed. Β In a way, he is just like a diamond. Β No matter which side you look at, as long as you're only seeing one or two sides, you're not seeing the whole. Β The whole Lelouch is the one I mentioned above, the one willing to do anything for Nunnally's sake. Β Even destroy and recreate the world.
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I somewhat disagree, I think he knew exactly who he was the whole time, he DID order Suzaku to kill him, but he had to make the world WANT him dead, to free it. He was just willing to do ... WHATEVER it took to accomplish his goal. I think the one thing he WOULDN'T have done was risk Sherly or Nanly's life. But otherwise, everyone really was just pawns in his game. I always found some ironic truth to that quote.
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So that would make Lelouch Lawful Neutral to Lawful Evil.
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As Lelouch Lamperouge, he was True Neutral, considering his sheer apathy, and Neutral Good when it came to Nunnally. As Zero he was a mixture of Lawful Good, Chaotic Good, Lawful Neutral, and Chaotic Neutral depending on which circumstances we're talking about. Β As Lelouch vi Britannia the Demon Emperor, his mask, he was Neutral Evil and Chaotic Evil in order to draw all the world's hatred onto himself.
His goal, the gentle world that Nunnally desired, was Neutral Good and his means along with certain out of control events, forced him to embrace all extremes of the Alignments in order to keep that goal from falling apart. Β However, his true self was never Truly Evil, despite the actions that were necessary. Β He had never taken enjoyment in the deaths of his enemies, merely being satisfied that his plans worked as they were supposed to. Β So I would dispute the Lawful Evil aspect of his personality. Β The actions he took that could fall under that category weren't truly part of his real nature. Β At least, that's what I believe.
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Let me guess, he's most likely chaotic neutral.
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Yeah, that definitely seems like the real Lelouch. Β Other than when he's with Nunnally, then he's more Neutral Good.
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So where's "I choose to fight evil with evil to destroy the greater evil."
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Indeed.
The one thing about this kind of action is that whenever they come up, the reason they came up to begin with is that there is simply no better alternative, and it becomes ABSOLUTELY necessary to perform it for anything resembling a better outcome.
The main conflict then is not whether it is justified to commit a smaller evil even if it is to stop a greater evil; but whether the person who have to make the choice choose to commit it (and possibly reach a relatively better outcome), or not to commit it out of whatever his/her principles he/she held (and possibly condemning the situation to go down the unthinkably worse alternative path).
If the character wants to achieve a better outcome, and there is no other choice other than lesser evil or greater evil, then there's never really a choice; the problem is whether the strength of character exists to implement it.
This is why I ended up rooting for Lelouch's approach in the struggle rather than Suzaku's - when one factors in all the info concerning how INSANELY HOPELESS the situation is for the heroes fighting against Brittania, all the lines Lelouch crossed to overthrow Brittainia becomes logical, and necessary, whereas Suzaku's approach appears nothing more than idealism that ultimately cannot last; and as we seen towards the finale, it really didn't last.
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Actually, that used to be the Chaotic Good. Changed it. I guess I'm not really satisfied with either. I think it would have been best if I could find some quote that's an obvious lie for a good purpose, or one about all the promises Lelouch has broken.
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I just think that particular line summed up Lelouch the best.
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hell yeah I get what your saying
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What episode does the chaotic evil come from?
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Somewhere in R2, definitely after Ep 10.
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It's actually episode 7.
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Wow, that early?
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.......FFFFFFFFF I missed the last one but I love this and the series <3
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the last panel makes me sorta... laugh...... PFFFFFT!
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Good, that's what I wanted it to do.
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Well then...your just epic.....
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Well, then I guess you're a pretty well-rounded character, like Lelouch. Or you're Lelouch.
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PERFECT! It's almost like the stages of denial except with Lelouch going through the alignments
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Well put together.
Although I donβt think Lawful Neutral is Lelouch. Fits though.
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The Neutral Evil is commanding me. MUST...NOT...LOO-"What are you orders, my master?"
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Oh, Lulu. Say what about him, but you can't deny he's a round character. This is why I adore him so much.
Question! How did you come up with the categories?
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Lawful, chaotic, good, evil and neutral? I didn't. It's from Dungeons & Dragons, a characteristic of the character you roleplay. Although I only really came to know of it from Baldur's Gate and Planescape Torment. There's TVTrope entries for each of the alignments, under "Character Alignment".
As for Lelouch, he's one of my very favourite characters too, maybe second to Raven (Teen Titans was the first series I could finally watch all episodes off when I got my first laptio).
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Oh, I see. For some strange reason, I thought it was from a philosopher.
Raven's cool too. I never really got into Teen Titans. Something about American comics... they just never appealed to me, y'know?
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No no, I've never read the Teen Titans comics, except for the first five or six in the New 52 series, and Raven's not in those. I'm talking about the Raven from the cartoon.
And I can definitely see where you're coming from on not liking American comics. That is, if we're talking about things like these New 52 DC titles. It's like there's a rule about at least one action-sequence per issue, and these issues don't exactly have too many pages. The end product feels like the writers never heard about pacing.
But sometimes the writers can actually handle this format, and you get things like the new Suicide Squad and Teen Titans, which just have a lot of energy. And Catwoman manages to somehow completely circumvent the problem entirely and never let the reader feel there's something the writer is working around.
There's are also stuff that aren't actually about superheroes (Transmetropolitan, Y the Last Man), or comics that are set in superhero worlds but aren't superhero genre (Powers, Astro City). And not every DC title ever has to be like those little issues made on the go and spat out every month. Mad Love, The Long Halloween, The Dark Knight are all Batman comics that you just can't fairly dismiss simply for being American comics about a grown man dressed as a bat.
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Raven, from the Teen Titans cartoon? The only Teen Titans cartoon I've seen had an anime style to it and a theme song sung by Hihi Puffy Ami Yumi. Is that the one you're talking about?
Oh, my problem with American comics is that I never know when to start reading. For a while, I wanted to get into X-men, but between the facts that there are so many issues, there are alternative universes, the series has been retconned so many times, and the fact that I feel like there's drama for drama's sake (the most detested form of drama for me), I just couldn't get into it.
In regards to pacing, I feel like the Naruto manga is starting to lose it. Granted, I think the manga jumped the shark a while ago, but it hasn't ever been this bad.
Thank you for the recommendations. I'll check them out when I have copious amounts of spare time.
Ah, a grown man dressed as a bat. As a Code Geass and Lelouch fangirl, I have no right to dismiss someone for dressing oddly.
Odd question: have you seen After Hours on Cracked?
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"When someone wins...The fighting will end."
LELOOOOOUCH~! I luff ya~! Everyone who's trying to classify him...let me clarify this for you. Lulu isn't one. HE'S ALL OF THEM COMBINED!
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Which makes me wonder what alignment Lelouch would actually be. |D
//only seen like 2 episodes
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Are you asking me to give you my best guess, or wouldn't you rather watch the series first?
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I dunno. I dont really plan to watch it.
Plus, I like hearing people's opinions.
So yes, what's your best guess?
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none, he's done all the things, you don't know anything till you seen how it ends (lets say lawful neutral iamge is from that area)
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