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A work in progress; I'm not sure when I'll have time to finish this one.The limey has the frog at a disadvantage; for whatever reason the sloop has come round and with the wind on her beam will be unable to avoid being raked from astern by the brig.
I'm quite aware that the brig is remarkably devoid of sailors; those will be added in later... along with sea and sky and various other things (like the rest of the sloop's rig ;_; ... )
Original is 7x5", graphite (mostly 0.3mm mechanical pencil, B lead) on 100lb bristol.
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Comments: 21
James-B-Roger [2014-05-28 16:42:41 +0000 UTC]
ok honestly... i am SO WATCHING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!
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SeanDouglas [2006-10-08 08:06:05 +0000 UTC]
I love the dynamicism of the two ships and the sense of depth created by shading the distant ship lighter. My only criticism is with the mainmast braces which, on a brig, would probably be lead to the foremast. Your main t'gallant braces here would only cockbill the yard. But I'm nitpicking, great drawing.
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Amarynceus In reply to SeanDouglas [2006-10-10 00:43:30 +0000 UTC]
Oh, good point! I can't remember what ref I was looking at (in any case it's packed due to moving) but indeed those braces are pretty useless. I think I may have made the brig too short in any case -- but I can at least solve the braces by leading them to somewhere closer to the fore t'gallant yard.
I've always found the running rigging on aftermasts a pain, at any rate -- there's never enough ship to anchor everything so one gets all these compromise solutions.
Oh, and you have no idea how great it is to be nitpicked on rigging. Most people just say "ooh great ship" even if I've got the rigging all arse-backwards. I'm glad there are people around who also care about such things! It encourages me to actually study a bit harder to get my ships more accurate rather than leaning on past experience.
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SeanDouglas In reply to Amarynceus [2006-10-10 06:19:19 +0000 UTC]
I've seen ship drawings lacking even shrouds (for non sailor-types this is preposterous) but I figured you cared enough to deal with some constructive criticism.
I still think the rest of the drawing is great, and I hope to see the finished product.
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Amarynceus In reply to SeanDouglas [2006-10-12 00:38:58 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, the amount of amazingly wrong ship drawings out there is stunning. Even if one doesn't know a backstay from a lanyard, there's plenty of references!
I hope to see it finished too -- I may finish it digitally, as that would allow me to fix some things like errant braces and such (as well as make the picture bigger -- it was a mistake to cram the masttops against the edge of the pic!)
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Kombucha-clocks [2006-08-17 08:55:03 +0000 UTC]
Yee! It's like the Curlew, but not!
It's beautiful.
Curse you and your amazing naval arts.
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Kombucha-clocks In reply to Kombucha-clocks [2006-08-18 02:11:11 +0000 UTC]
yeah..not a whole lot of similarities, really, just thought so upon first glance.
Haha, huzzah.
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Amarynceus In reply to Kombucha-clocks [2006-08-17 23:52:49 +0000 UTC]
I had to Google the Curlew to find out what you meant -- a pretty little ship, aye, but quite a bit different from an 18-gun naval brig.
I accept your curses with gratitude.
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Amarynceus In reply to shadowcat9279 [2006-02-18 21:08:08 +0000 UTC]
Thanks; hopefully I'll have time to finish it one of these days.
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spiralchidori [2006-01-26 13:11:03 +0000 UTC]
Impressive sketch, as always. I wonder though in the structure of this ship... I always questioned how a ship can carry that many cannons (in your case, 8 on each side, so 16, tops, i guess... with maybe additional cannons for replacements and stuff) with enough armaments (hundreds of cannonballs) inside a wooden ship... Even if a ship can manage it... how does this ship manage to go...? By only the power of the wind...? Hmm... if you angle it right, I guess you can go...
Meh, it's itsy bitsy things... Good job, overall... ^^
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Amarynceus In reply to spiralchidori [2006-01-26 18:21:07 +0000 UTC]
The wooden sailing ships were masterworks of engineering. Their wooden structures were amazingly robust and solidly built. In the case of the 18th century naval brigs, such as I've draw here, 18 guns was a standard armament. Of course the cannon were not as massive as would be found on a frigate or one of the towering ships of the line -- in the case of this brig, she would be packing 9 pounders at most, so each gun would be around a ton or so (I don't have a reference handy so that's an estimate). Depending upon when she was built, she could be packing a battery of brass cannon instead of iron -- brass cannon are lighter in general. She wouldn't have any replacement guns in most cases, and if she did, they would be carried as part of the ballast in the depths of the hold. Ammunition, at 9lbs per ball, wouldn't comprise much at all of her total lading
The wind can provide a tremendous impetus to a vessel. A ship like this would probably be capable of managing 12 knots (nautical miles per hour) in a good stiff quartering wind, though an average speed would probably be more like 9 knots. And of course with her square rig she couldn't sail into the wind or even a few points off the wind, but you'd be surprised at how close to the wind a good crew could sail these ships.
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spiralchidori In reply to Amarynceus [2006-01-27 13:17:53 +0000 UTC]
ah, wow... u noe a lot about these stuffs... ^^ it's a wonder how back in the days the people were used to be so perfect with building and designing with the materials they got... Look at all those ancient buildings in Europe... detailed smooth curves and symbology behind all of those are magnificent. I guess humans can do wonders... ^^
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