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What the hell do you think cavemen wore? Or, you know, every single fucking human ever before we learned clothing can be made from plants, too.For all the butthurt kiddies crying about hunting for fur being unnatural and wrong.
EDIT: People seem to be entirely missing the fucking point of this stamp. I'm not sure WHY everyone keeps going "FUR IS WRONG" and "Wasting the rest of the animal".
... where did the ANIMAL come up? This is about HUNTING. Not the actual HARVEST or USE of the whatever. I'm talking about the dumbass argument PETArds use against fur that makes no sense. CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE OKAY
I mean seriously guys someone who's against fur clothing/taxidermy agreed that using an animal's fur is natural.
So it is possible to, you know, DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING AND STILL UNDERSTAND IT.
I think a few people need to understand THAT. /end edit
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im talking about you when I say 'pathetic'
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And I was talking about you.
How am I pathetic? I'd like to know.
Not that I care much.
If I am, I am. if I'm not, I'm not.Β
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butt hurt much
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How am I being butt hurt?
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LOL, these people are stupid. Killing an animal and rape aren't the same thing xD Why are they whining? I honestly don't know that synthetic material is better. Seriously, you have to make that stuff, and isn't that worse for the environment?
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Fur is outdated. This is 2013-why are we still wearing fur to keep warm? We have synthetic materials that can be worn year-round,unlike fur. Why regress back to the stone age when we can progress into the future and keep creating things to make life easier? Someday we won't even want to wear fur-we'll have things like special thermal clothing that will automatically adjust to the weather;that clothing will be able to keep you warm in winter,cool in summer and even keep you dry in rainy weather.
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You know what else is natural? Squatting down in front of other people and shitting. Killing another human because they tried to have sex with your partner. Killing your offspring because they're disabled. Raping other humans in order to increase your chance of having offspring and spreading your genetics. Not showering or brushing your teeth.
Human beings have practiced these things just as long as we have been hunting and wearing animal skin clothes, yet you aren't advocating for these behaviours. You make the mistake of thinking that "natural" automatically means, "good" or "acceptable". What a false dicotomy you've presented.
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Fallacy of comparison. Your argument is heavily flawed.
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Its because of how society as a whole deems what is 'natural' and 'unnatural' for us to do. In our society, it is acceptable (mostly) for people to wear fur and so this becomes 'natural' for the human population to do. Rape is unacceptable and so rape is 'unnatural'. Its just the evolution of a society. Animal behaviors evolve over time and so some behaviors that used to be a natural thing simply become the un-natural thing to do. For wolves/dogs, being fearful and aggressive of humans was the natural thing originally. As they developed alongside humans, this behavior became unnatural and was replaced by showing affection, which is their new natural behavior.
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What's the matter, is logic stressing your brain out too much?
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*Fail. You can't even fail correctly, you worthless piece of trash.
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Ermergerd I'm so hurt.
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Ermahgerd, you're a fucking tool.
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I assume you still practice these things in attempt to make it seem that they make for a valid argument? Good show, you must be very dedicated. You've clearly forgotten that humanity has advanced as a whole.
Nice little flawed argument there, though.
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My argument is solid; the naturalistic fallacy is a common one used among the self confessed "carnivores", I am merely pointing out the fatal flaw in their bullshit: That natural does not indicate good, or acceptable. I don't need to practice these things in order for the argument to be valid; the fact that these people profess one thing as being natural, and therefore good (ie; eating meat), and yet abhor another completely natural behavior (rape, defecation) merely reveals their false dichotomy, as I stated.
The people toting the idiotic "natural" argument are the ones forgetting humans have advanced as a whole. If we've advanced past certain "natural" behaviors that have been present in our species since it's existence, such as rape or murder, then why is evolving past flesh eating any different?
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Your statement is flawed as well, considering if your saying we have advanced as a whole... then there is no need to wear fur since we have other things to keep us warm. That's what the cave men did, we are no longer cave men. (not trying to be rude, just pointing it out)
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Wow. You're really itching to get into some kind of debate with me aren't you?
Not everyone still lives in areas where faux fur is openly available or the proper alternative to fur. Some people still base a majority of their income on fur trade and supply. And as I've stated before, faux fur just doesn't cut it for some people.
Also, the fur industry also benefits other industry.
While we have 'grown/evolved/become more advanced' as a whole, we still have a need for fur. And this is why we still use it.
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How does fur benefit other industry? I am very curious truthfully, never heard that said before. As well as why we NEED fur. Unless you live where you can not buy cotton or wool, then you don't NEED it. All fur is used for by the main stream of today is for fashion.
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The carcasses are used in animal feed, organic compost, fertilizer and sometimes even plants and tires. They may also be turned over to zoo's and aquariums for feed. Also, mink fat is used to create soap and face oils among other things.
Again, that is a difference of opinion. As I've already stated these alternatives don't keep me as warm as fur would.But again, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
I could point out the fact that you have animal pelts, and if they aren't used for coats or blankets, then you don't really need those, now do you?
If you support fur I don't really see the point in you arguing rather we need it or not, as it makes you a hypocrite.
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(lol plants and tires, PAINT* and tires. sorry was tired when I typed this)
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I agree 
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If you needed the fur for survival is one thing. killing for basic (and I do mean BASIC) survival is natural even the most rugged of vegans can agree with that but "population control" is just crap.
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ThatΒ΄s a truth saying stamp!
We really have enough people who just donΒ΄t wanna know that not all pelts come from that cruel China farms!
Hunting is a great thing which really is fun to do, but the respect to the nature and never to take more as needed also is importent and never has been forget!
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You should not mistake 'Wanting' something, for 'Needing' it. Not only did Neanderthals have nothing else but they knew no better. You would think in a civilised society such as human kind has built they would learn that animals were not put here for their use. They have their own reasons for existing. If you wouldn't skin a person and wear them on your back, it seems ludicrous that you would justify skinning an animal for the same purpose. If humans were supposed to wear it, they would grow it themselves.
I don't believe every one else is missing the point, if everyone around you has grasped the concept of cruelty, perhaps it is you who needs to understand it. It isn't about 'wasting' an animal, it is about the morality of hunting for any purpose. Hunting is wrong, beginning and end. But the fact that it is called 'Fashion' to wear a dead animal on your back is bordering on ridiculous.
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When you NEED it. Cavemen couldn't go to the store and buy cotten shirts. But we do not need fur. We use it for fasion and nothing else.
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clothes are made out of fur actually
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Only for trim and such. Just to make themselves look pretty. We don't need it.
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um, wool is sheep fur. And a shitload of clothes is made out of it.
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We don't need wool though. We have cotton and other products
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yet we still use it... Sound familiar?
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Yet we don't need it.
I have no problem with wool because the sheep don't get killed, just shaved
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What your needs may be and what others needs may be are totally different.
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Quote from your description "People seem to be entirely missing the fucking point of this stamp. I'm not sure WHY everyone keeps going "FUR IS WRONG" and "Wasting the rest of the animal""
I understand what you are saying with your stamp, but I understand how you are getting those comments as well, well, at least the wasting ones, the "fur is wrong" I don't really care about. In fact, the very reason I clicked the stamp to read your description of it. Saying hunting for fur is natural insinuates that you are hunting just for the fur not for the other things the animal you are hunting can provide you as well . . . And many people don't like that idea. Including me.
But we do share the opinion that people need to stop crying about hunting being unnatural and wrong.
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I believe in hunting 100 percent. If something is over populated- the population needs to be culled. I lived on a farm for YEARS. I've had my fair share of coyotes killing MY animals. MY work and MY money put into them- just to have an animal that's starving because people let the numbers get out of control(thusly causing all prey to go down). When you hunt you kill the animal painlessly- when you don't hunt, that animal starves anyway and dies a slow and painful death.
As for using fur- yes, it is natural. It has been natural- and you know what? It's going to continue being natural. Substitutes couldn't last through CRAP. Fur has been used by (just as an example) native americans through trials we can't even begin to think of- and has still lasted.
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I too am for hunting for the right resons. Just felt I should say this: Humans are very over populated and most of the time, when you shoot an animal it is not at all painless.
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how is it natural when we have many cheap and beautiful substitutes for it?
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And faux is made of nonrenewable oils that end up in the Ozone and water ways, thus killing animals.
Ever watch a rat eat faux fur? It dies after a while, and most faux eventually ends up in landfills, which it cannot rot away, so, it's pretty much clogging good ole mama earth.
Whereas a pelt can rot away in a matter of months without eco damage... and animals can safely eat it.
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Sadly most hides that are tanned as pelts have so many chemicals on it its not safe long term for animals to eat. I would NEVER let an animal eat one of my pelts because I do know whats used to tan them...yuck.
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Those chemicals wear out over time, I had a dog eat a whole coyote pelt, and he never got sick. That pelt of coarse was maybe 5 years old.
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There is always SOME left, no matter what amount it may be and I never want to risk it but yes they do get weaker as they get older.
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You do realize that fake fur promotes the usage of real fur? And fake fur doesn't keep you as warm..
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The STUFF, my bad
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Not...fully true. There are new methods of making fake fur now days that do bring them MUCH closer to the real thing. The you see in clothing and what not is cheep because its all the companies want to pay for. I have some fake fur that nearly feels like the real thing, and keeps me warmer then a pelt (mostly because a pelt can breath better once its a pelt and processed for clothing)
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Check the date on my comment, first of all. It's a few months short of being a year old. Why on earth do you care about an comment that is almost a year old?
Second, you seem to be speaking from personal experience rather than fact..So, that means I can speak from experience rather than fact. Out of all the faux fur and real fur I've had, real fur has always been much warmer.
I can also argue the fact that fur is natural, where as faux fur is not and causes a bit of environmental damage once it has been thrown away.
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Your attacking me as if im against fur, which im not (I have many pelts and things of my own)... Sheish, I was not rude or disrespectful to you at ALL. Yes it was almost a year old but if something is left for that long is it not worth responding on? If so history books need to get the hell out of schools >.> (and btw I get comments on pieces of art that I uploaded for ever ago and never once did I react like you just did)
And ok, but you must not have had any good high quality fake fur. There are fake furs being made now days out of strange things likes plant fibers and such. Even some fake fur is being made with an undercoat and guard hairs (that's the stuff im talking about that's just as warm as the real thing, considering its backed with a really heavy material to use AS a blanket). I think that's rather cool. Humans these days have no need to wear things such as fur to keep warm (unless you live in the arctic and have no way of getting any other kinds of clothing, which in that case it is needed), we have SO many other choices like cotton or even hemp fiber (which btw is SUPER soft and really warm yet has good air flow, I have a pair of pants that rock). Does that mean we cant? No. Does that mean we should not? No. I just think now days the whilly nilly view on it should not be taken so lightly by some.
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