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What the hell do you think cavemen wore? Or, you know, every single fucking human ever before we learned clothing can be made from plants, too.For all the butthurt kiddies crying about hunting for fur being unnatural and wrong.
EDIT: People seem to be entirely missing the fucking point of this stamp. I'm not sure WHY everyone keeps going "FUR IS WRONG" and "Wasting the rest of the animal".
... where did the ANIMAL come up? This is about HUNTING. Not the actual HARVEST or USE of the whatever. I'm talking about the dumbass argument PETArds use against fur that makes no sense. CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE OKAY
I mean seriously guys someone who's against fur clothing/taxidermy agreed that using an animal's fur is natural.
So it is possible to, you know, DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING AND STILL UNDERSTAND IT.
I think a few people need to understand THAT. /end edit
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Yes but the fur is just one part of the animal. It's wrong if you use nothing else from it.
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yes, that is exactly what I meant. :/
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I agree with this.
I don't have anything against hunting as long as it's 1) done as humane as possible. 2) a good reason for the hunt/Controlled hunt. (there's a better word for this but I can't for my life remember what it's called in english /fail)
Aaand that's pretty much it. 
Same with animals you actually can eat. Like rabbit, deer etc.
I don't like fur-farms. Actually, I despise them intensly. Whether they are treated good or not. Because I see no reason for it. I think it's unbelievably cruel. We don't NEED fur today. Not like people did thousands of years ago. Fur-farms only breed animals just so they can use their skin for fashion.
I don't see the reason why people would ever buy a mink-coat. :I (except that they think it's omfg so soft and pretty and that they look omg soooo fabulous in it.)
If I'd ever buy fur, I'll make sure to know exactly where it comes from.
ANYWAY UUGH SORRY FOR MY RANDOM WORD-VOMIT. D':
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Sorry, but I'll disagree with it not being wrong. Yes, it's not unnatural, as our ancestors did it as well, but point is, they had to to keep their warmth. We have plenty of our non-fur clothes nowadays.
Hunting an animal and use everything from it, such as the meat, skin and fur is okay, but hunting an animal only for the fur is not only wrong, it's ridiculous. I mean, seriously, people still do that? Sure hell ain't legal in my country
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Like I've said to people before I'm in no way advocating using an animal's pelt and throwing the rest away. I'd like to ball-punch anyone who's done that or would do it. At least you got the actual point of the stamp along with going on the "what about the rest of the animal" deal.
Also, never said it wasn't wrong. 
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Oh, my bad then, I thought you were saying that it wasn't really wrong and such. Apologizes
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Its no trouble, a lot of people are getting that impression it seems xD
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Just becuase people did it along time ago dosent mean its natural. It was just necessary back then. Now its just a waste of life.
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It was an instinctual thing; "I'm cold, that thing is fluffy, I'm going to kill it and use its pelt to keep me warm." Its just like today, when you're cold, you automatically think of getting a blanket. Except for the ancient people, that blanket was a fox.
Besides, how is it a waste of life, exactly? If I killed an animal, I'd want to use every part of it, and that includes the pelt. And I hope that anyone else would do the same thing.
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Thats not instinct. Thats reasoning. People put together back than that if they were cold, and animals had fur, they could use the fur to keep warm.
And its not a waste of life if your using the animal for whatever else it offers, mainly the meat. It'd acctually be a waste of fur.
But hunting soley for the fur, and fur factories, is a waste of life and meat becuase we obviously dont need fur to stay alive anymore.
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Did I ever say I supported hunting for fur? No. Did anything regarding the rest of the animal get addressed? No. Did fur factories ever get mentioned? No. So really, this is kind of a non-sequitur... This stamp is about the hunting, and nothing else.
Also, self-preservation is an extinct. So "I'm cold, I need to get warm or I'm in for trouble" resulting in using an animal pelt, is an instinctual reaction, or at the very least based on one. xD
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You were trying to justify the hunting of fur by claiming its 'istinctual' and 'natural'. And its not. I mentioned it to prove my point; it has nothing to do with your beliefs on the rest of the animal or fur factories.
Keeping yourself alive is instinctual, but hunting for fur isnt; so yes its only based on it.
My only point was it was only acceptable back then becuase they used the entirety of the animal, and it was neccessary.
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Uhm... when was I justifying hunting for fur, exactly? I was just making my point that its a natural thing to do. Thats not justifying it.
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It was just kind of implyed. People dont usually just make a stamp like that without having an opinon in there somewhere :/
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You don't have to agree with hunting for fur to think its natural.
Hell, one of the other commenters here said "Its gross, but yeah, it is natural." :3;; So...
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Well I still disagree with both, but
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At least the early man used everything. I'm not sure about most people who oppose fur clothes today, but I don't have a problem with it if as much of the rest of the animal is used in some way or another.
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No part of this stamp was addressing or referencing the use of the rest of the body. But yes, I do agree with you, I'm fully for using every part of an animal. xD
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Aaah but you see, even if there *were* cavemen :\creationist, THEY were unnatural too, what with using fire and wearing clothes and stuff. No, the world would be so much better without nasty, evil hyoomans at all. (Or at least just neanderthals, I've seen an increasing number of works portraying them as human's more innocent, in-touch-with-nature cousins.)
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Oh yes, I've sen that view before, humans are a special kind of unnatural. There are those that believe we were created and thus fell into evil sometime long ago (Creationists, but also new age people.) but even those who accept we evolved I've seen say we somehow, in some strange way they never elaborate on, 'evolved wrong' and got out of balance and now we need to go extinct.
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Ooooh, okay, I get what you're saying now. xD Sorry, my brain is a little slow sometimes.
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If it were unnatural, then it would be impossible by definition!
But I agree very much.
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Not technically, but I get what you're saying xD
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Dislike ≠ Disallow
Just my two cents
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lolwut
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about there xDD; /fail
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Yeah, that was kinda vauge my fault really
Lemme restate that:
My dislike (of things) does not give the right to disallow (others)...to do said things
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Oh, okay xDD Yeah, I don't feel that way either. I just don't like people using things incorrectly in an argument.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. If you don't like hunting, whatever, fine. But don-
Oh forget it.
was gonna go on a big rant and everything, but my rant-meter's full already
Point being, I agree with your sentiment.
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TOTALLY agree with you. i dont like walmart.. but that doesnt mean others shouldnt be allowed to shop there
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Emma does not approve. D;...
well it is natural, and i just think its kinda gross. ;n;
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Not saying anything about people liking it or not; just that it is natural, so people should stop using that in their arguments against fur. |3 I have no problem with people liking or not liking fur.
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Fur's also renewable and biodegradable while faux fur isn't C:
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Everything is natural. That includes being opposed to hunting.
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I never said opposing it was unnatural or that they shouldn't think that way.
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Then why did you feel the need to say it to me? There are plenty of people that actually need that said to them; I'm not one of them.
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Well I certainly didn't feel the need say it to you. I just felt the desire to.
Well I don't agree that anything needs to be said to anyone, I will say that it didn't make sense for me to say to you what I did.
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Sorry, I just get kinda... "rah" when people do that sorta thing. xD;; Sorry if I got snippy or anything.
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i guess they go by the "humans are outside of nature, as soon as they stopped living as a beast" when they say "not natural" or "we are the only one who does it"
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Thats probably it, but of course that still doesnt really make much sense, either 
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I don't really agree with this, since I don't see the point. Not because I care about the wolves, but it kind of reminds me of barbarians and cavemen which had no alternatives. Just saying. I think it's pretty weird to dress in another creature's hide, unless you are Bear Grylls.
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