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Description ... Why did communism collapse and capitalism endure?

... Why is gun violence in America the highest in areas with the strictest gun laws?

... Why didn't Paul Ehrlich's predictions regarding the population and planet come true?

... Why are states with the weakest labor unions showing the fastest growth?

... Why is Texas still Republican, even with so many minorities living there?

... Why are areas with the highest percentage of students in public schools the worst educated?

... Why are countries that are the most connected to world markets the richest?

... Why are most capitalist countries also democracies? (Left-wing liars such as Noam Chomsky claim that democracy and capitalism are incompatible, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.)

... Why are the most liberal parts of the world showing such slow economic growth?

... Why is Detroit (a left-wing bastion) so horribly depressed?

... Why is Texas (a right-wing state) so prosperous?

... Why are people still unhappy even after decades of easy divorce and abortions?

... Why did Disco die? (Disco was a very left-wing form of music and culture.)

... Why are planned economies so feeble and inefficient?

... Why did import substitution fail?

... Why did Marx's prediction of communist takeover in industrialized countries not come to pass? (Those takeovers happened in agrarian societies instead).

... Why did forced busing fail?

I could go on. When a person or group continually fails to predict an outcome, it becomes clear that they do not have a strong grip on the reality of the situation. Liberals have constantly failed to predict the actual flow of events and yet they claim to be the "reality-based" ones.
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Comments: 14

Zeonista [2015-04-17 03:58:05 +0000 UTC]

Of course reality does not have a liberal bias. That is why the liberals are trying so damn hard to make their deluded dreams into the perception of reality, not reality itself. Success or failure doesn't matter, being correct is what matters to the liberal decision makers these days.

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LadyClassical [2015-04-16 04:38:01 +0000 UTC]

You rule man!

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Aristodes In reply to LadyClassical [2015-04-16 07:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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LadyClassical In reply to Aristodes [2015-04-16 07:03:30 +0000 UTC]

No problem.

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boshthehedgehog [2015-04-15 23:19:04 +0000 UTC]

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Level0Hero [2015-04-15 14:22:19 +0000 UTC]

1. Assuming communism is even liberalism.

2. Gun rights isn't a liberal vs. conservative issue. It was the conservatives that would pass the racist Mulford Act.

3. Not ever liberal supported him. Plus, we do need to be careful with our bonrendwable resources.
Stuff like oil we need to move away from as quick as possible.

4. California has seen their job growth rate rise higher than Texas in some months last year. Kansas, however, has seen its economy get worse through budget and tax cuts.

5. Likely because of gerrymandering.

6. Source? Also, if true, it would be failure of the system itself, not because of public education. Or else Finland's education system wouldn't be one of the best in the world.

7. How is this anti-liberal or proving against "liberal bias" in reality?

8. Because capitalism, if left unchecked, can turn a democratic system into a oligarchic system. One reason why I'm a democratic socialist.

9. I think your looking at only a few rather than all of the majorly liberal countries. If I remember correctly, Sweden has a enter economic growth rate than the UK.

10. Lack of money to fix the problems, plus Michigan has hardly tried to lend much of a hand in fixing the city.

11. Depends what you mean by "prosperous" because there are many factors one must consider in Texas.

12. Because it's their stupid decisions. What? Are you suggesting we should keep them in a marriage they're not happy in or keep a child they're not ready for?

13. Because it went away like any piece of entertainment; it got old.

14. Because it would be rushed. However, that doesn't mean it would always fail. Import substitution worked during the Jefferson years when we're forced to make our good with the embargo placed on the UK.

15. He wasn't entirely wrong. He's not exactly a good example to prove liberal bias is wrong. Liberals are very torn when it comes to him.

16. Source please. Also, if it did, I would assume it would have something to do with the disparity between blacks and whites.

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Aristodes In reply to Level0Hero [2015-04-15 15:34:49 +0000 UTC]

If you think to dispute these, you need to get the facts straight.

1. Communism is more extreme than liberalism, yet the two are relatively close on the ideological spectrum. Liberals are also far more inclined to give Communism the benefit of the doubt than moderates and definitely more than conservatives.

2. Yes it is. Liberals seek tighter gun control laws. Conservatives want looser gun laws.

3. Liberals support him all the time. Just look him up on any left of center site which mentions his name and they treat him as a font of knowledge.

4. California has about 12 million more people than Texas, but Texas has seen much stronger relative and usually stronger absolute growth on jobs.

5. Gerrymandering is found everywhere, yet no source ever claims that it turned Detroit into the wasteland that it is. Failed liberal economic policies did that. Made Detroit unable to compete.

6. You have to look up sources yourself, as I did. This isn't a formal paper. And when I say "public education", keep it in the US. It is well known that private education is much better than most US public schools.

7. Liberals tend to oppose free trade while conservatives support it.

8. Anything if " left unchecked" can lead to tyranny. Socialism has been observed to be prone to this, especially where it claims to be a "People's Republic."

9. The most liberal region of the world, Europe, is barely growing at all. Even if Sweden is ahead of the UK, that is not saying much.

10. Again, Detroit failed due to liberal economic policies.

11. By most measures (GSP, jobs, low living costs) Texas is ahead of the rest.

12. They should fix their marriage and not murder the baby. Put the child up for adoption if they must.

13. It died after only 11 or 12 years because America had had enough. Disco Demolition Night helped save America's soul from bad music. Star Wars saved us from bad movies.

14. If you study American economic history, you will see that it was a huge failure here. It also failed in Latin America when those countries did not learn from our earlier mistake.

15. He was wrong about nearly everything. Enough liberals like Marx that I can use him as an example.

16. Forced busing failed because it angered the people it was meant to help, and did nothing to improve the schools. Look it up.

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Level0Hero In reply to Aristodes [2015-04-15 17:35:10 +0000 UTC]

1. This seems to give different opinion of how left is a liberal. Personally, I think a liberal can fill all areas of the left. There are liberals who aren't communist, and there are liberals much closer to moderates. To generalize such a broad community and using communism against it as a whole, in my opinion, is very effective.

2. Again, Mulford act. It was a racist gun control law by a conservative that passed by Gov. Raegan to keep the original Black Panthers from defending themselves from the racist cops of L.A. If gun control benefits a politician, whether liberal or conservative, they're likely to support it.

4. California has surpassed in job growth RATE a couple of times against Texas.

5. I'm well aware that gerrymandering is everywhere. I'm also aware that both democrats and republicans use it to get the most support.

6. When public education was introduced in America, the literacy rate skyrocketed in the next decade. So yes, it works. And why shouldn't I use an outside example?

7. Ooohhhh. You're referring to free trade agreements. Well the reason they are opposed is worry towards workers and that it may benefit the business more than the employees.

8. That's why there should be donation restrictions and transparency in elections.

9. That's likely 'cause of an aging an stagnant population. Also, I used Sweden as an example because it's far more liberal than the UK.

10. You're going to have to give me specific examples of this, please.

11. The population also makes, in average, less than the country as a whole, an economy reliant on oil, and property and sales tax arguable worse than California(no income tax means nothing when you consider the others) that actually hurt low income families and small businesses.

12. I agree, but that's not liberalism's fault. Also, orphanages are getting more and more crowded. And, while I hate adding an economic point to it, eleminating abortions would just be VERY expensive.

13. I love Star Wars.

14. Actually, America experienced it's greatest periods of economic growth during the times in which we exported more than we imported.

15. Fair enough.

16. I have just did that actually.

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Aristodes In reply to Level0Hero [2015-04-16 04:10:19 +0000 UTC]

1.  Liberals are closer to communism than capitalism, though. That a system that is closely related to their own failed while a system they oppose succeeded is a sign of the weakness of their ideology.

2. The Mulford Act is not nearly enough to disprove anything. Liberals want to limit gun rights, conservatives want to expand them. This is why the NRA is a conservative organization.

3. You skipped 3.

4. And Texas surpassed California dozens of times more, despite having a much smaller population.

5. So what? I don't think you actually addressed the point here.

6. Public education back then taught only basic subjects in one-room schoolhouses. I am talking about public education as it exists today. It is clearly failing in this day and age.

7. People benefit from trade in the form of lower prices, competitive pressure on businesses to be more efficient, and the need to create newer and better products to stay ahead of the competition.

8. What does that have to do with the fact that anything can get out of hand?

9. The aging and stagnant populations are due to abortion, radical feminism, divorce, and people becoming too selfish to bother to reproduce.

10. One major example would be the expensive union labor which ceased to be competitive. This is a large part of why the South is outgrowing the Midwest.

11. Texas has long since outgrown its reliance on oil. It is a major manufacturing state and a tech hub second only to California. Or did you forget about AT&T, Dell, and oh yes, TEXAS Instruments?

12. It is well worth the cost to have enough children who will one day grow up to become workers who will then pay into welfare funds and social security. Plus, I said ADOPTION not "orphanages." We can always build more of the latter if we must.

13. Star Wars reintroduced mythology into film and made movies fun again. Between the late 1960s and 1977, movies were dark, gritty, and were full of left-wing ideological crap at every turn. They still have a lot of left-wing crap, but most of those movies gross very little next to the more conservative blockbusters.

14. Import substitution does not mean "trade surplus", it means "minimum trade, including exports." It is a term mostly associated with dependency theory (a now-discredited communist idea) and Latin America. The fastest period of economic growth in the past 50 years was the 1990s, a time when the US ran a trade deficit.

15. Thanks for conceding this point.

16. And what did you find? Outrage and divisiveness in almost all parts of the country where they attempted to implement forced busing. Except maybe Louisville, for odd reasons.

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Level0Hero In reply to Aristodes [2015-04-16 05:27:12 +0000 UTC]

1. Liberalism isn't closer to communism as an economic theory though, but it certainly is on a social level. because, you know, equality and shit. However, on economics, neither the left or right are closer to capitalism because they both also have totalitarian governments with their spectrum.

2. Then I guess I should mention more of Reagan's legacy on gun control. Reagan was quite supportive of an anti-assault weapon ban. . It was Reagan who signed the Firearm Owners Protection Act. While it did loosened some regulations, it also added more. If you consider background checks, which liberals generally support, it's also worth mentioning that Reagan supported the Brady bill . In 1989, George Bush Sr. used an executive order to halt semi-automatic rifle importation. While I do admit there are a lot of emotional democrats supporting gun control, they do not represent liberals as a whole. Heck, look at Vermont, the most liberal/democratic socialist state in the country. What's probably the state of socialist experimentation in America has the loosest gun laws in the country. Yes, the state that has Bernie Sanders as its senator has the loosest gun laws in the country.

3. My bad, didn't mean to. Anyways, to answer that for you, he is not always looked upon as the center of knowledge on population and resources by liberals. But there are points in which we shouldn't so much on non-renewable resources like oil. Which we desperately need to get away from because eventually we're going to run out of ways of harvesting it.

4. You mean through the creation of more minimum wage jobs that can't even afford a living in Texas? Texas has more minimum wage jobs than any other state by percentage. The state still is still pretty reliant on the oil industry, which, sooner or later, will bite the state pretty hard. It gave a pretty sharp nip last year.

5. What I addressed was that gerrymandering is used to a politicians advantage. Therefore, I suspect republicans used gerrymandering in order to shape their districts in predominantly white areas and pointing out that the democrats likely do the same to minorities.

6. It apparently isn't failing a lot of other countries though, America isn't its own world. We should look at positive examples of public education working in other places for ideas and advice. Just 'cause the current public system doesn't work, doesn't mean it can't be transformed into something that can.

7. Sure, but free trade can also hurt domestic businesses. Tariffs exist to protect domestic products. 

8. I don't understand that response. I think it's quite obvious, it's through transparency in our elections that helps protect democracy from capitalism.

9. That's quite an assumption, care to back that up with statistics? I was under the impression that more developed countries just have a lesser incentive to reproduce. Women are working more and are more independent of men. That could a be a reason to not have children. It's also important to see that many of the countries with higher birth rates than those more developed still experience rape commonly, arranged marriages, and women dependence on men.

10. Or heavy reliance of the auto-industry, which would later crash, could be an example. Detroit didn't diversify it's economy soon enough, so they paid for it. now since much of its income is gone, change has been slow and the state it resides in has't been much help in reviving it.

11. If Texas can still get kipped pretty bad last year by dropping oil prices, then it hasn't let go. The oil business is growing in Texas, not declining.

12. This assumes that the adoption rate would even keep up with the kids being added to the foster care system. WILL adoption rates rise with the removal of abortions. If so, how? Plus, who's to say a woman wouldn't do an abortion illegally anyways? You know, unsafe abortions. One's that usually don't have a doctor to do it.

13. I just simply watch movies as movies.  I never looked at movies in a political perspective. At least, not often.

14. Ooohhh. It's a lot like Juche. Well, I don't remember liberals being huge on that, but whatever. Also, the 50's had a higher GDP growth rate average than the 90's. And that was with the highest tax rate in U.S. history.

16. Do I hate it? Not sure because it had a purpose for something I support, but it was a very poor attempt to desegregate schools. Perhaps many wanted the schools desegregated as fast as possible, but taking such strong actions so quickly could result in dire consequences. 

Also, it's worth mentioning that I'm not particularly a believer of the whole "reality has liberal bias" shin dig. I'm mostly just commenting to argue.

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Aristodes In reply to Level0Hero [2015-04-16 07:21:08 +0000 UTC]

Wow, you really are a "social justice warrior", aren't you?

1. Not all equality is good. Equality of opportunity is good, equality of result is not. One still has to merit what one gets.

2. Using examples from tiny libertarian states is not a good move, as Democrats as a whole are still against gun ownership, while Republicans are generally for it, in spite of a few counterexamples.

3. Paul Ehrlich has been cited again and again in discussions concerning resources and population control. It is like citing Ptolemy in a class about Earth's position in the solar system.

4. The cost of living is lower in Texas than in the coasts or in much of the Midwest. People can afford to live on those wages in TX when they could not in CA or NY.

5. Gerrymandering isn't enough to explain problems of that magnitude. You probably know this, but have no better response.

6. If it can be reformed, that would be good. Still, we cannot talk about some hypothetical system, we have to consider the state of the one we have. And right now, it sucks.

7. Tariffs protect uncompetitive industries and do not give them incentives to reform. This leads to shoddy products and investments in bonuses and overly generous benefits instead of reinvestment into the company. This leads to collapse when competition finally manages to get through, as it will sooner or later.

8. Transparency helps, but the original comment was that anything can go too far. You responded with a comment on transparent elections. That's not quite the same topic.

9. Look them up yourself. Anyway, developed countries need not have a low reproductive rate. The most developed countries in the world in 1900 had fairly large numbers of children per family. It was only after decades of left-wing indoctrination, two world wars, a great depression, the rise of the counterculture, feminism, riots, drugs, madness (okay, maybe not that one), and the false idea that people needed small families to be happy that the countries most suited to care for large numbers of children started having the least.

10. The big question is why did the auto industry suffer a collapse. Expensive labor, legacy costs of pensions, and unions which were unwilling to give an inch.

11. It has become far less dependent, but it still hurts a few areas. It's not nearly as bad as Texas was hit in the 1980s. That improvement alone shows how much more diverse Texas has become.

12. Illegal abortions have not increased even when clinics close and restrictions are imposed. There is no evidence to support that claim you made.

13. A great deal of movies are liberal pieces of propaganda. Just look at "Philadelphia", "Angels in America", or anything Michael Moore made.

14. No, the 1950s did not. Even if they did, most of the 1950s were under Eisenhower, a conservative Republican president. Either way, your point is undermined.

16. Forced busing didn't improve the schools. It put a lot of white students into worse schools and insulted black people by assuming they had to be with  certain percentage of white people in order to learn. Not to mention the long commute times. It chased white people out of inner cities, leading to more segregation. Good job.

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Level0Hero In reply to Aristodes [2015-04-16 08:17:24 +0000 UTC]

Depends on your definition of a social justice warrior.

1. Never said it was. I'm not for "equal income". I'm for equal rights and opportunity.

2. Then I ask, what makes gun control "liberal". What makes gun control "conservative".

3. Yes. I know. I also know that not every liberal is in support, but that we should be more careful with out resources and plan quickly on how to deal with a rising population.

4. Not according to the living wage calculator.

5. We can go by the election history of blacks. The majority of blacks have voted democrat since FDR. So, if Texas is almost entirely red and heavily gerrymandered, I would assume that is why. Makes sense. I'm not doubting the existence of conservative minorities if that is what you are thinking.

6. Never said it didn't suck. I just don't think doing away with the public system entirely an replace it with a private one is a good idea.

7. You think a small business in one country can compete with another business that 10x it's size in the same market? Situations like that is why I support a mixed economy. Not a contradicting "free" market.

8. What I meant by transparency is transparency in donations. It helps keep capitalism and the elections seperate.

9. You mean the times when women relied on men for income? Or when massive amounts of men would come home from wars ready to start a family? A time in which women didn't do much beyond raising a family?

10. Just further shows you shouldn't have an economy that's mostly one product. Did unions play a part? Sure, but the blame shouldn't be entirely on them. Both the city and the businesses also played a part in the city's collapse.

11. Sure, I can admit the economy has diversified. However, the oil business there continues to grow and have a major impact on the state's economy. The state is still far from not being reliant on oil. It is taking baby steps though.

12. Hold up. Remember to answer the adoption problem. Now, I didn't say illegal abortions WILL happen. I do know that placing tough restrictions on abortion doesn't help though.

13. I don't even like Michael Moore.

14. *incredulous look* Anyone who has studied his presidency even a little bit can say he was beyond the conservative and liberal label. He promoted American values while also expanding the New Deal a bit because how effective and popular it was. Plus, he didn't lower taxes. Also:www.tradingeconomics.com/unite… look into both 1950-1959 and 1990-1999. The average is higher on the 50's.

16. Can't Say I don't agree with you.

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Aristodes In reply to Level0Hero [2015-04-16 08:22:29 +0000 UTC]

An "SJW" is a loud, opinionated, left-wing ideologue who picks fights on the internet.

1. That's a lot better than most liberals.

2. Liberals think that gun control is needed to prevent violence, while conservatives defend the 2nd amendment right to keep and bear firearms.

3. A rising population isn't the problem, a greedy and materialistic population is. 1 billion Africans use far fewer resources than 315 million Americans, for example.

4. That "calculator" is left-wing and biased.

5. Texas still votes Republican by the sheer number of votes, including presidential elections. No amount of Gerrymandering will  change that.

6. I never said that we should abolish public education either.

(Will add more to this when you do. You left it off at 7)

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Level0Hero In reply to Aristodes [2015-04-16 09:22:49 +0000 UTC]

Sorry. I dun goofed and pressed send by accident. Note to self: avoid using phone for deviantart. Anyways. Make a full response to the edited previous comment then I'll get right back to you. Okay?

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