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Published: 2017-06-03 10:14:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 11726; Favourites: 118; Downloads: 124
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Just a quick picture for practice, the tree is a mostly but non-exhaustive one.This is not an easy thing, ofc you can also declare every dialect or new oversea dialect its own language, so I had to find some compromises sorry.
The tree only shows european languages of indo-european heritage, no basque, hungaryan, estonian or finnish.
Special thanks to my language master that corrected my tree several times^^
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Oh Albanian, so small and all by yourself
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Yes poor Albania has no sisters around :/
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At least it consists of Gheg, Tosk and others.
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Yeah, and it really doesn't help when trying to learn it
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But you can surely find online contacts that help u^^
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I actually know Albanian, my boyfriend (and brother's fiancee) are trying to learn it.
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Ich wusste nicht, dass Litauisch und Lettisch slawischen ursprungs sind, dachte immer, die wären was eigenes.
Und wovon stammt eigentlich Baskisch ab?
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Mh sie sind nicht direkt slawisch, sie haben aber beide einen engen Sprachursprung.
Baskisch ist sozusagen Ureuropäisch^^
Du musst wissen, wir sind nicht die gleichen Menschen, die hier in der Steinzeit lebten.
Unsere Völker sind erst vor 5000 Jahren in Europa eingefallen und haben fast alle Sprachen
dort verdrängt. Nur das Baskische hat das überstanden.
Aber natürlich sind ein paar Wörter auch auf unsere Sprachen übergegangen.
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Ja die gute alte Völkerwanderung
Aber, dass Baskisch Ureuropäisch ist wusste ich nicht, dachte immer, das wäre irgendwas Romanisches.
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Stark vom Romanischen beeinflusst aufjedenfall.
Eine reine Sprache gibt es gar nicht glaub ich.
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Irgendwo im Brasilianischen dschungel wurde glaube ich eine reine sprache gefunden, aber soweit ich weiß gibt es keine verbreitete reine sprache
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Ja das ist vllt. möglich^^ Am ehesten kommt vllt. noch Isländisch in Frage.
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Wouldn't English be leaning more towards French considering its heavy influences on it?
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That´s difficult to show, then I would have to make Romansh leaning to German etc. too
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yeah, I guess that's true
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I'm bit sad: you didn't put the Tabarquin with all the other Latin languages. Ok it's maybe born from Italian, but that's the only Latin language born in North Africa that remains until today! It's unique, and it could really have its independant place also i guess!
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For sure, but here I only wanted to show european languages in Europe.
Else u r right.
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Ah but sorry, but Tabarquin is an European language today: it only survives in Sardinia nowadays, as a protected specific language belonging to Sardinian cultural heritage... Even if it was born in Tabarka, in Tunisia...
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You are right, but I can´t make it that detailled it´s too specific,
as a sub group of Ligurian.
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Masurisch!!! Aber ich weiss nicht ob man das schon als eigene Sprache zählt
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Das ist kontrovers, entweder es ist nur eine Mundart oder eine Sprache.
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Where is Lower German/Lower Saxon? It is not a dialect, it's an own langauge close to German and Dutch with its own vocabulary and grammar connected to the people of Northern Germany and The Eastern Netherlands, their culture and history. It also played an important role during the Hanseatic age and is an official language in parts of Germany and a minority language in The Netherlands. If languages like for example Scots are present, why does this family tree of European languages lack of Lower German/Lower Saxon?
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Ok I will add it later^^
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Ich würde ja beinahe sagen, das man die Englisch Sprache im Grunde zu den
Romanischen Sprachen abschieben, oder ihr zumindest einen eigenen
Zweig, man könnte ihn Germano-Romanische Sprachen nennen, einrichten
müsse.
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Könnte man meinen, aber sie ist in ihrem Wesen doch noch weitaus germanischer als romanisch^^
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...Or japanese, chinese or native American languages. A good illustration, none the less.
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Vectortree ^^. Verry beautiful. What Font did you used? Its quite beautiful.
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Thanks a lot, it must be a Serif font
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Meanwhile, Hungarian and Finnish exist in an whole different world.
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No Hungarian there. We are on a different tree, the norse (Finnish) is also nowhere.
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Yep I wrote in the info only of indoeuropean heritage^^ Those languages would be on their own tree.
Finnish is not norse, it´s a finno-ugric language.
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1) Did you make the tree from scratch?
2) How is Finnish not Indo-European?
3) Aren't Romantic and Germanic pretty much the same?
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Well I had an inspiration but I made the tree from scratch and a new order of the languages.
Finnish is Finno-Ugric and not indo-european^^ It isn´t related to any of the big european
language groups.
No Romance languages are the mediterranean and the germanic the nordic ones.
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Finno-Ugric? Where did THAT originate?
But French came from the Franks, right?
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I think in the ural mountains.
French is a mixture of gallo-romanic and germanic-frankish words XD
But it is considered romanic. The least romanic, romanic language.
Just like English is the least germanic of the germanic languages.
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Hm. Conundrum; I was going to suggest putting Greek on the left side of the tree, due to Ancient Greek's influences on Latin, but at the same time, Greek has had quite a bit of influence on Russian, as well.......
P.S. As you've already done Kashubian & Sorbian, what about Masurian?
Also, in regards to Romansh; I'd move it closer to the Germanic tree, personally, due to its Germanic loanwords, & "purer" Latin nature than modern Italian.
Which reminds me; might want to consider Ladin & Friulian, as well, as they're largely considered to be part of the same "tree."
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Masurian is controverse, wiki says it is seen as a dialect of polish, but some claim it to be a language.
I will try to fix the rest later thx!
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Yeah, I only suggested it since you threw in Kashubian, I figured it would complete the ensemble ;D
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I updated it a bit^^ check it out
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Goodness it looks so elegant!
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