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Published: 2013-04-04 14:07:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 20747; Favourites: 581; Downloads: 0
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Join Africa-comic group!Okay, this picture has been roaming the internetz for a while, I drew it a couple weeks ago (as you can see from my signature, still indicating March '13) and uploaded it on Facebook first, but I liked it and thought I'd upload it here, too
When I submitted the test page for Africa I received loads of useful pieces of advice, one in particular, which many of you suggested, was to make Africa and Chui more different, because they looked too much alike.
Well, I've been working on that ever since. Can you tell Africa and Chui apart in this picture?
Please be frank, I don't get offended if you say you don't! XD It's very important for me that readers manage to distinguish characters, especially if the two main characters are so similar.
I also added a like of rounded spots on Africa's pelt, since I received the suggestion to vary her spot pattern a bit. How do you like it? ^_^
Once again, thank you SO much for your constant support and critique! It helps me a lot
And once again... again XD
Africa and Chui are LEOPARDS. Not Cheetahs. Not Jaguars.
I know that cheetahs aren't this bulky. Because these two AREN'T cheetahs! XD
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I can deffinatly tell the duffrence. I like how Africa's features are a bit more rounded and Chui's is more sharp. (Like his attitude lol) You did well with male and female diffrences. Males are bigger and i can see that in this picture. I like how you made chui's arm hair (?) its sharp unlike most leopards so it makes him stand out, but in a good way! I love Africa's anatomy, she is sleek looking but at the same time tough. Many people say,"She should look more 'girly' " But real leopards arnt girly they are muscular and strong and ready to fight off enemys so i think she is fine the way she is. I like how diffrent there spots are, i mean no leopard print is the same right? Lastly i love this piece and can tell the diffrence between them. Also, i can tell they are leopards not cheetahs, its preety easy to tell if you know your big cats and anatomy like you do. Lastly I might change Africa's face expression into a snarl for this picture but that has nothing to really do with anatomy. Everything else looks great to me. (I LOVE CHUI'S FACE.) XD
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Oh my oh my, thank you SO much for this epic critique
I'm really happy you like the picture and that you see the difference between the characters
And you're right, leopards aren't girly or slender in real life, even females are muscular
Oh thanks for that suggestion too! <3
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I know. That annoys me when they are like, "They aren't feminine enough." Last time I checked female leopards don't have long eye lashes and pretty faces.... sometimes you cant tell the difference between males and female leopards in RL
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That's true, males and females only differ by size, and it's not true that females are leaner/less muscular.
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ik. FEMALE POWER! Lolz
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Okay, here goes my first critique. :3
To start off, I really like the designs. It's easy to tell apart who is who. Africa is a lot rounder while Chui's edges are pointed, which is a nice touch. e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s⦠" width="15" height="15" alt="
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One detail is Africa's outstretched leg. Her paw looks a bit strage, as if it should be a bit more to the right. And (could just be me though) Africa's hind leg seems very tiny compared to her body. But that's the only thing that bugs me. Overall, a great picture from a difficult angle. e.deviantart.net/emoticons/b/b⦠" width="15" height="15" alt="
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Aww thank you a lot for this critique!
I'm really happy that you like their designs and that you can recognize their species
Oh yes you're right about that leg, it looks awkward 
Truly thank you so much! <3
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You're very welcome!
They're easy to recognize for me, you draw them really well.
Perspective is a tricky thing. 
And once again you're very welcome!
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Aww thank you SO much again :'D
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Africa on the left, Chui on the right~ e.deviantart.net/emoticons/b/b⦠" width="15" height="15" alt="
Great Job!
Buttt..... I can definitely tell that Chui is a guy because he is bulky which is good but I think you should make Africa look a bit more...lady-like? Cuz I mean...She IS a girl right? Right??! ;A;
They're cheetahs also correct? So they should be a bit more..leaner? More stream-lined?
NO OFFENSE, their designs are SUPERB, don't get me wrong...but maybe a bit more thinner and less bulky? Lions would probably be that big, that rotund (?) but I think cheetahs are always going to look thinner and more...flat.
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The coloring is beautiful and I love their different tail ends! Such a brilliantly unique twist! e.deviantart.net/emoticons/b/b⦠" width="15" height="15" alt="
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But that red line irks me... :/ It's the color... maybe go for a more treacle or more orangey-yellow tone? I'm just being picky that's all. But then again, that does make a difference if you want to improve and all that.
Paws are all tip top (I can't draw them very well ;A; ) but Africa's outstretched leg, I think, needs to be slightly revised?
On the other hand, this IS just to help viewers distinguish characters and to get the feel for the design so I shouldn't be so picky xD
AND (will this ever end?!) as you do know, cheetahs are built for speed and like I mentioned early should be more stream-lined. So possibly consider narrowing the hip bones a bit?
Anatomy is lovely, as are the lines. Coloring is blended fantastically and makes the piece stand out and appear 3D and life like. I wish I could be this good! But, alas, I probably never will ^^
Overall, a totally spiffing piece of work! Be proud and keep the good work up!
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Aww thanks so much for this epic critique! <3
I'll make sure that Africa looks more feminine XD
Ah, no, they are both African leopards, not cheetahs, and they are naturally rather muscular and bulky
Hoho, no worries about being picky XD You're right about that leg, it's definitely off
Truly thank you SO much for taking your time to critique, I appreciate it! <3
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That's ok!
Ahhh, I see 
That's ok! I love all of your work, it's one of the best ones out there!
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XD It's okay :'D
Ohoho, thank you a lot for that, truly! <3
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C':
That's alright! xD
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People are weird. They keep mistaking two CLEAR leopards for being misdesigned cheetahs. wtf? xP
I guess people might be mistaking them for cheetahs because of their long tails. XD
People are still weird though.
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I think not everyone knows the difference between a leopard and a cheetah, just like not everyone knows the difference between a crocodile and an alligator XD
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Well, main difference between crocs and gators is, crocs mostly live in Africa, while gators live in North America. Caimans live in South America and gavials live in India.
Dunno what kind live in Australia though, if they're crocs or gators... Maybe gators.
That's geographical though.
Biological differences between crocodiles and alligators is that crocs have teeth sticking out both in the top and the bottom while gators only have teeth sticking out from the top. Also, gators have wider heads than crocs. Though crocs tend to be bigger than gators, I think.
Caimans are smaller than both, I think, at least the dwarf and "glasses" caiman? (brillekaiman in danish) are.
Interestingly, jaguars hunt caimans. Not sure if leopards hunt crocodiles, think I've seen a video of a leopard playing pull the prey with a croc (fighting over an antelope) though.
Sorry to reply to such an old comment lol I was just looking through some old stuff, your old stuff lol, and I found the comments and I wanted to talk animals XD
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Africa:left Chui:right
At first I thought they were Jaguars because of there spots and the body structure.
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While jaguars and leopards do look a lot alike, main difference between them is that jaguars have spots inside the rosettes. Also their rosettes tend to be larger and with thicker black lines than leopards'. They also have much thicker heads than leopards.
Dunno if you already know this BUT I CAN'T HELP MYSELF lol
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I also forgot to tell, Love the textures on both Africa and Chui!! You are a professional Artist!!ππΊ
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An all cartoon girl team from different movies, TV shows, etc, playing in the annual Cartoon Olympics to show a rival all boys team that girls can play equal as boys.
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I see. That's alright then, I'll allow you to use them as long as you credit me for owning them in the description.
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Can I use Africa and Chui for an cartoon Olympics fanfiction I'm working on? Pleaseπ
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What exactly is this fanfiction about, if I may ask?
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geez people are weird why would people mistake them for other spotty kitties i mean cheatahs have tear marks & jaguars are thicker & from SOUTH AMERICA
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I don't know 
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Yup, they both have unique markings that defer them well apart. Great job! i''ve always loved the way ur art looks!
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Sweet! I'm so happy you can tell them apart^^
Aww thank you! <3
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Your very welcome. Great artist like u deserve it.
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i can because of the reffs you made!! before i saw them they looked the same
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I agree, they looked very similar in the first pictures
I made some progress since then^^Β
Β Can you easily tell who is who in this page?
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Sweet!
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It's very easy for me to tell the two apart
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I'm so glad it is
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I bet it is, you definitely have to rely on body shape
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