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"I know you're all important to me!You are what I care about most in this world!
Trusting one another...
Everyone pitching in to help one another...
That power that is noble enough to move even the hardest of hearts...
That's what I've learned...
...from all of you!
There's just no way I can accept losing you all now!"
From PokΓ©mon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity.
This game really surprised me.
The story... it was seriously realistic. The messages were really deep and touching.
It is worth playing.
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I agree completely. It's not just that statement that is what makes it realistic. If you really take a step back and look at the plot...it very much is real. The plot is basically hatred is what is threateningΒ them and everyone is so filled with their own self-centered lives...that they don't give a care in the world about others around them. To me...that sounds an awful lot like how people are so quick to judge others and don't care who they insult...and those ill feelings are what can cause people to do horrid things...like the old saying goes..."Sometimes the purest of hearts...can become the blackest."
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That statement about this game being realistic couldn't be any closer to the truth. Really, the only 2 things that separate this game and real are the Pokemon and your game screen.
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People always place Explorers on a pedestal above all other PMD games and look down on Gates to Infinity. In terms of that kind of reception, I think Gates is The Legend of Korra to Explorers's Avatar - the Last Airbender. However, whereas I think LoK managed to catch up to AtLA, Gates surpassed Explorers. If the upcoming Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon ends up being better, it'll be my new favorite in the PMD series.
By the way, what do you make of PSMD from the trailers that are currently out?
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considering Nintendo and Gamefreak constantly amazes us with these games in one way or another, I think that it is a safe bet that you will have a new favorite PMD game as soon as PSMD is released. Then when the one after that one is released, that one will replace PSMD.
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Can you give us a link to the video of this part? It should be available on You Tube.
Anyway I hope that the bad reviews of this game does not discourage producers to other games in the series Mystery Dungeon. For me PokΓ©mon Mystery Dungeon always has the best stories, and in fact it is a shame that there have never done a series anime spin off or at least one movie.
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That is one thing I like about Nintendo. They practically ignore the official "reviews" from IGN or Gamespot. They listen to the players. Seeing as this series is hated by critics but loved by everyone else, Nintendo will not be discouraged from making new Mystery Dungeon games until the non-critic players start saying it's bad.
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Here it is : www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KVk7Lβ¦
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NYYAAH Touching scenes in this game keeps breaking meeeeh XD
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I love it! I kinda liked the Explorers of Sky a teeny bit more but this was an extremely close second! ^-^
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i got this game. i know it is a very sad scene. i've cried when it was finished. reaaly. fantastic picture
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I loved playing it! 
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what Pokemon were you?
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I was playing as a Tepig.
What about you?
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Axew. It wasn't too difficult as Axew, especially with Dragon Dance, Dual Chop, and Aerial Ace. I tried it again as Oshawott and that fight is pathetically easy. (the trio you fight there are Toxicroak, Gigalith, and Chandalure [hope I'm spelling those right]) I tried it a 3rd time with the same items and level as Tepig, and it is hard, unless Tepig has learned Aerial Ace and Brick Break.
The difficulty of that fight goes (from easiest to hardest and yes I've played it 5 times through): Oshawott, Axew, Pikachu, Snivy, Tepig.
Oshawott beats both Gigalith and Chandalure with just Toxicroak to worry about.
Axew doesn't beat anyone, but he does resist Chandalure and being a Dragon-type he can hit hard without any of them resisting, plus the combo "Dragon Dance - Dragon Dance - Dragon Dance - Dual Chop" is broken as it only takes 1 turn to do, you can walk 3 squares then attack thanks to the increase in speed, and you will hit harder with Dual Chop because of the increase in the Attack stat.
Pikachu has no advantage or disadvantage at all unless you teach it Brick Break, Iron Tail, or Aerial Ace. It also can benefit from its moves Shock Wave and Thunderbolt since they will try to surround you.
Snivy beats Gigalith, but is weak to Toxicroak and Chandalure.
Tepig is weak to Gigalith and Chandalure absorbs Fire. Tepig also isn't super effective against anyone unless you teach it the right moves. Aerial Ace and Brick Break gets the job done. The only saving grace that Tepig has over anyone else is that he's the only one that can't be burned. He also resists Chandalure.
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I hope you will make it through.
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Even as someone who thought that the story of Explorers was just decent (great by pokemon standards isn't saying too much) I was really surprised on how much they improved the story this time, which was mainly down to its robust cast of characters. Seriously baffled to see most people prefer the plot in Explorers which had a weak cast with it's dull partner, pointless Wigglytuff guild, Grovyle being too stoic for his own good and Dusknoir being too obvious a villain.
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they really focused on improving their character quality when making this game. But imagine playing Gates before Explorers. You might guess that despite looking like an evil guy, Dusknoir was the good guy, considering they made the more evil looking Pokemon (Hydreigon) the good guy and the more peaceful and friendly looking Pokemon (Munna) the bad guy.
I played Gates before Explorers, so when the plot twist for Explorers happened, it caught me off guard. Granted, the Plot Twist hint in Gates was more subtle, but Explorers Plot twist was still subtle enough. A Plot twist hint is the hint given in the story that tells you of an incoming Plot Twist and is something that needs to be in to allow the audience to make sense of the plot twist as a whole, like the static at the beginning of Gates during your dream.
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Yeah, the story is awesome.
When the partner says we must keep trying, it almost makes me cry.
I think the story represents our real world now.
The story has got to the point.
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Even for me, the story was fantastic. Especially considering that not only focused on the two main characters but also about other character around them.Β And it was nice that the final villain was not a pokΓ©mon. This is a detail that should be used more often.
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I also liked how they really challenged the partner's resolve with the issues he faced, especially when his/her efforts to try and get the town's help ended in complete failure and just made things worse, but what really cemented the partner as being a great character was in the post game: His reluctance to bring you back, acknowledging 'you' might be happier in the human world not to mention the thoughts he gave to your friends and family who would have been worried sick considering you pretty much vanished for a couple of months or something - made it feel like he truly and genuinely cared about 'you' and was a great character all round.
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Yes, the partner shows us what a true friend is.
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It shocks me that the game gets negative reviews. I would've rated the game at least 7.5/10.
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Let's chalk it up to one of the core reasons we play Pokemon in the first place. The Pokemon:
140/649 Pokemon are obtainable in Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity.
491/493 Pokemon were obtainable in Mystery Dungeon 2.
Notice a very large difference? In Mystery Dungeon 2, all but 2 Pokemon from Gens 1-4 were obtainable. In Gates to Infinity, you have less than 1 Generation of Pokemon to work with. That, is, STUPID.
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Did you even play the game? The low pokemon count really didn't affect my enjoyment much. Sure it would have been better with all of them but the vastly improved story and graphics, better soundtrack and paradise/mysteriosity features made it more than a worthy trade off, and that's not even mentioning the dungeon leader switching/being able to play as other pokemon way before the credits roll.
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Despite not playing the game, I don't think it takes gameplay experience to see when a game is less than it's previous incarnation.
Less than one generation of Pokemon, toned down gameplay, with a good story and improved graphics, and a better soundtrack doesn't seem like a better game to me.
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Except the gameplay wasn't toned down. If it means anything to you, I found plenty of reason to still play and enjoy it even after the post story events were done. After the last one in Explorers, I barely ever touched the game and when I did, it was just one dungeon before I thought 'Eh, I could be having a better time with another game...'
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Okay, this I can understand. I will likely pick up a 3DS when X and Y show up, and I will likely grab Gates to Infinity, just because I am a huge fan of Mystery Dungeon. I'll make my final decision than. For now, all I can really say is; it's slightly less than the Explorers games, but better in terms of graphics, music and story, which I will say; story is important to a game to me.
So don't get me wrong. I do think it kinda sucks that most of the pokemon are gone, but if Nintendo did add more to back it up, that's great. I can overlook mistakes if other changes are made in the process, and from my understanding, Gates to Infinity does do a good job with the character interactions.
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I'm not saying the low pokemon count was an OK thing - it was a poor show, but I really felt it was worse on paper than in practice - not as bad as sounds, even if the enemies did seem to repeat quite a bit, but it does more than make up for it in many areas.
As someone who thought the Explorers plot was just mediocre, I can say that I really liked the plot in Gates to Infinity, which was mainly due to the vastly improved cast of characters. No waste-of-time Wigglytuff guild, a far more robust partner, and many other characters who really feel part of a team with you rather than just hovering around not doing much with you, each with their own hopes, fears and investment in the plot. That being said, this is coming from someone who believes the term 'A story is only as good as its characters', so take that for its worth.
If you get it and still don't enjoy it, feel free to throw a brick at me for giving you bad advice
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Naw, people view something as good or bad in different ways, so I'm not going to hurl anything at anybody because they liked something and I didn't lol
I am currently doing a Blind run of the second game, but I know some of the plot, and I think it's kinda good. This is also someone who thinks that Gen V has the best plot in the series of Pokemon, so really, debatable lol
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Story wise, Gates was the only one that manages to not only be good by Pokemon standards, but simply good on it's own. Explorers was still decent in it's story, and Black and White did make a bold move by tackling the very foundations of Pokemon itself, albeit there was so much more they could have done with it, such as really discussing why training is right or wrong rather than simply have both sides try to scream their opinion the loudest. As for other stories within the franchise...nope! Not seen any of the manga though.
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Pokemon Special the Manga has a fantastic plot, I highly recommend you search it out. It is the darkest, and most in depth version of pokemon to date, much more graphic and interesting than the anime.
For the games, I can understand them having simple plots, mainly because the target audience if for kids. If they made the games darker, it wouldn't appeal to the target audience.
Despite this, I still find that pokemon is a great series for fans to create their own ideals for the stories as well, which is great for people who like making their own tales and stories.
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Yeah, it probably has the greatest potential fanficiton material out of pretty much any franchise given the great manner of stuff you can do with the creature designs and functions. Hell, the PMD series's stories are like fanfiction, just mediocre/good/great got Rescue Team/Explorers/Gates respectivly, and payed off really well.
However, I feel the general pokemon concept has one major flaw when it comes to stories - it puts the (hopefully) developed characters on the sidelines in the action as they hide behind creatures which do the fighting instead, and the creatures are pretty damn hard to really care about them as characters since trying to characterize someone who doesn't speak is very difficult, hence I can only care superficially for the pokemon themselves. Probably a big part of the reason why PMD plots work well for me in general is that it characterizes those who actually fight and really get in the action.
That being said, there are many possible ways to work around it, such as putting threat from the pokemon onto the people - once you get all the pesky pokemon out of the way with your own, the other human is at your complete mercy as I don't think he/she will be able to beat up a tyranitar with their bare hands 
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Yeah, I have my own fanon series based around Mystery Dungeon, but it focuses on the pokemon, not humans. There is reference to the human pokemon from the original Mystery Dungeon, but that's about it. I enjoy making a unique fanon based around the series because it's unique depicting pokemon with intelligence of humans.
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I myself am making a sort of remix telling of the Explorers story which mainly exploits the use of a developed lead character who reacts with utter dismay about being in a foreign world in a foreign body and alternate takes on how pokemon itself works. Having a lot of fun with it, and I'll have a look at your fanon series if it's on your account.
Oh, and your display icon - it's offensively cute, please remove it before I murder a kitten
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Interesting, I'll gladly check it out. I always enjoy seeing how other people imagine the Mystery Dungeon Universe while working on my own. It's amazing to see how many different ideas people get.
The bouncing Raichu? Sorry, I can't help it, Raichu is my favorite Pokemon lol
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Really? I didn't know that it got negative reviews.
Because of the story's seriousness?
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I guess its the gameplay that got its negativity. The story is kinda slow at the start honestly, but I thought it was pretty well executed.
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I remember when I got to this part of the game. Nice to know people felt the same way i did.
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I thought I was the only one who felt this game hit home for me on a personal level. Looks like I'm wrong.
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I'm glad you know this game. It's a masterpiece.
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I almost cried at this part because I understood why my friends wanted to give up. I knew how it felt to just want to give in and lie down. Somehow or another, the hero actually managed to convince me as well, which made the game so much more powerful to me. You did an amazing job here. <3
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Thank you!
And I like the English translation as well as the original Japanese words.
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