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undefinedreference [2017-11-20 09:19:46 +0000 UTC]
There's definitely a touch of Russia in this one. Forest spirits having a party..
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2017-11-20 13:56:04 +0000 UTC]
heyyy, i like that..
I never got to know my Russian grandfather, my Hungarian grandmother died young while giving birth to my father. From the few photos that are left i can tell that i look like my grandmother. From my mothers roots there are Bosnian, German and Italian origins. I feel very " European"..
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2017-11-21 06:45:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm Irish/Scottish/English/German/Dutch. Mostly German in fact, but I was born in both Great Britain and Ireland ("Ulsteria") and I grew up in NL. Which incidentally means that in a case of emergency I have quite a neat stack of potential passports to pick and choose from. I don't feel I'm anything, to be honest, in terms of nationality and origin. Forever stuck in a limbo of non-belonging
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2017-11-21 07:48:27 +0000 UTC]
....how interesting
Do you speak German ? You wrote that you study Russian with focusing on news and politics.
Politics in general is paranoid schizophrenia and megalomania, look what kids are told in history lessons.....that great emporers are genious and heros. That we have to love our country and defend it, if our great leades choos to go to war for whatever reason, mostly their own profit!
Literature and art is more, much more enjoyable, it may help to educate and unite people instead of segregate them. I feel fortunate to have been born in Europa, where education is free. I always loved books, stories from the whole world, i loved the Russian classic writers when I was 14, I am sorry to not have the time to read them again because there is so much information available today which is interesting as well. You write you have an inclination towards "underground"...I think, in every epoch there existed artists who could be defined as "underground". I agree to non- belongings in your terms....
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-01-19 19:24:00 +0000 UTC]
Ich spreche nur ein bisschen Deutsch. I grew up near the German border, where the locals watch more German than Dutch TV. I would like to be more fluent in German though, it's a nice language, it has all sorts of weird and wonderful words, like "tatsächlich" for example. It has numerous "false friends" with Dutch. I can remember watching Derrick, and he always used to ask people "Wann haben Sie es erfahren?", which we found very funny, because the Dutch word "ervaren" means "to experience". Hard to explain what exactly was funny about Derrick's question, it just sounded a bit odd to Dutch ears. My great-grandmother spoke German only, and communicating with her was very confusing to us because of those words with a similar sound but different meanings. Now I suddenly remember the word "spatzieren", haha, she used to use that word all the time. As far as paranoid schizophrenia and megalomania are concerned, Russia is an entirely different story. We're currently living in a kind of 1930s again, and most of the world seems fast asleep. It's interesting to see though how a nation can hide a never-ending flow of hate speech behind a language barrier..
By my knowledge education in Europe has been free only since the late 1960s, and here in NL it ceased to be free in the late 1980s. And it's more and more becoming a pastime for the wealthy again. Though we're still not at US level (working on it!), where education is made so expensive that talented kids from less-than-rich backgrounds almost have no other option than to enlist in military scholarship schemes. A very clever system, from a military point of view that is
These pages contains rather fantastic art from a Russian artist, Leonid Tishkov, who seems to take the expression "underground" quite literally:
pila-dotoshnaya.livejournal.co… (only the images in top, the rest is just sewage system)
vpdiscovery.livejournal.com/89…
He wrote a great picture book as well, but the pages have been blocked, as was to be expected, since on one (out of 450 or so) of the pages he expressed a dislike for the beast/rat in the Kremlin. It's the way things are over there at the moment. And the world snoozes on in blissful ignorance..
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-01-19 21:47:08 +0000 UTC]
Ich finde den Unterschied zwischen „erfahren“ und „erleben“ im Zusammenhang mit Kommisar Derrik´s ernster Frage in einem Mordfall z.B herrlich komisch. Es ist mir ein Vergnügen, diese Art von „false friends“zu entdecken. Ich habe Freunde, die flämisch sprechen, manchmal, wenn wir in der englischen Sprache nicht weiterkommen, versuchen wir es auf Deutsch-oder umgekehrt. Es funktioniert wunderbar. Das Wort „spazieren“ ist wirklich sehr sehr deutsch. Im englischen gibt es viel mehr Definitionen für diese Art der gemütlichen Fortbewegung.
Was paranoide Schizophrenie und Größenwahn angeht, ist Russland eine ganz andere Geschichte....schreibst du. Ich denke, Amerika ist viel gefährlicher als Russland. Ich habe den Eindruck, das die Weltpresse, die ja nur noch wenigen Großeigentümern gehört, sehr einseitig über Rußland berichtet und unabhängige Berichte nur schwer im Netz zu recherchieren sind. Wer nimmt sich noch die Zeit dafür, es sind wenige. Der Rest begnügt sich mit etsprechender Propaganda, schnell zu konsumieren und zu leicht glauben.
Ich lese oft, das unsere Zeit mit den 30er Jahren vergleichbar sei, man fühlt nichts Gutes für die Zukunft, und das international. Hier in Griechenland schon seit 8 Jahren, aber unsere wirtschaftlichen und politischen Probleme wandern auch ins restliche Europa. Ich spreche oft mit Freunden in Österreich darüber, die Zeiten werden auch dort immer härter, die Unsicherheit wird größer, der Arbeitsplatz nicht mehr sicher, die Renten nicht mehr sicher, dir guten Zeiten sind vorbei. Dafür schreitet die Amerikanisierung voran, an jedem größeren Dorfrand sind Geschäftsreihen entstanden, mit den immer selben Großmärkten, in jeder Stadt in Europa die gleichen Modehäuser und Marken Läden, Privatbäckereien sterben aus, das Gebäck liefert eine Fabrik. Ich war 1986 für 1 Jahr in USA, bin 11.000 Miles gereist von Ost nach West und wieder über eine andere Strecke zurück. Ich sah die Fernseh Prediger, Sekten und Kirchen aller Art, deren Anhänger alle irgedein großes persönliches Problem hatten. Damals dachte ich, das so etwas in Europa nicht möglich wäre....Ich lag falsch mit dieser Einschätzung. Was mir noch besonders auffiel in USA war, das alle Leute so gerne über business und money sprachen, und welcher Kirche sie angehörten.
Ich stimme dir zu mit der Bildung, wieder eine soziale Errungenschaft weniger.
Die neue Regierung in Österreich will Studiengebühren einführen, es geht nun um Profit, auch in Krankenhäusern und Altenheimen, es weht ein sehr kalter Wind für die Menschen mit wenig Einkommen.
Das Meinungsfreiheit in Rußland oder in diktatorisch regierten Ländern nicht geschätzt wird, ist mir leider bekannt. Ich kenne diese Probleme auch von Cuba, doch nicht alles ist schlecht dort.
Vielen Dank für den Link, die Fotos sind sehr interessant, erinnern mich an den Film Stalker vonAndrei Tarkowski
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-01-20 20:44:58 +0000 UTC]
I don't think it's Russia that gets a disproportional amount of negative attention in the media, that would be Israel
You forget that in the 1930s it was imperialist Britain, not Germany, that was the widely considered the Empire of Evil, just like the US are today. If you had visited Britain back then, you would have come back with a similar story about religious freaks who were so proud to live in God's Own Country!
This isn't about right or wrong, about clashing cultural values or economic paradigms, it's about which nation is about to self-destruct, taking a large (if not the entire this time, given the nuclear capabilities involved) part of humanity down with it. It's about which leader gets so entangled in his own lies that he's willing to go to war with everyone in order to hide his own utter failure (Germany was expected to go bankrupt within a year in 1939 - and still there are people who buy into that myth that Wunderkind Adolf "did lots of good things for his people"). It's about which nation has nothing to lose and feels so humiliated that in its collective psychotic decompensation and delusions of innate grandeur and glory it is willing to take any stupid risk.
Did you know that Russia is "the most spiritually advanced country on the planet"? Putin's following do!
Apart from all that Putin actively supports every last far right (fascist) group in Europe, which he sells to the Russian public as "good patriotic parties", while maintaining an image of an "anti-fascist" at home. Some claim that Pegida is a project of the FSB. In that light Russia should probably be receiving even MORE negative attention in the media than it already does. But then Putin is too much skilled at playing victim, and Europeans (and especially Germans) too stupid (or blinded with guilt from the past) to see through it. How many other nations on this planet can claim a "sphere of influence" and a "buffer zone", i.e. the right to determine the fates of their (supposedly sovereign!) neighbor countries, and have people accept and (fucking) "understand" it? Get (fucking) lost! (not you, the idiots who eat this crap)
The day the US will turn its back on use we're screwed. Half of Europe will go "back" to Russia and the other half to Turkey in a kind of Von Ribbentropp deal. And since neither Erdogan nor Putin are adequate to maintain an "empire", before the victory parades are over it will turn out that they've only been paving the way for China to take over all of Eurasia.
But then you can't stop history, can you?
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-01-28 08:03:51 +0000 UTC]
This isn't about right or wrong, I agree ….
It's about geopolitical interests being negotiated by unscrupulous old men behind closed doors. The fate of the affected peoples, who are thrown into chaos as a result, is indifferent to all those, whether Americans, Russians or Chinese.
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-02-23 19:28:08 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure about the Old Men Hypothesis. Imagine if Putin, from some inner conviction, would decide that homosexuality is a something that deserves to be celebrated and that Moscow must consequentially have an annual gay parade of its own, how long do you think he would last as a leader of Russia? And the same thing applies to all other leaders. If you take a plunge into the world of dictators, you'll find that none could even exist without a degree of popular support, from what are to them the relevant sections of society. And of course, in a democracy you can eventually vote the real assholes out of office, but there's still such thing as the hype of the day. I see nations as organic wholes and all are in it together. The "credit crunch" wasn't just caused by the banks, but by those who mindlessly kept taking credit and feeding their crazy dreams (and greed) as well. But then one needs someone to put the blame on afterwards, doesn't one
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-02-24 18:55:59 +0000 UTC]
If you take a plunge into the world of dictators, you'll find that none could even exist without a degree of popular support, from what are to them the relevant sections of society. .... the big players know how to buy support, either with money or with threats...
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-02-25 13:42:18 +0000 UTC]
There are lots of people who only feel safe under dictatorship and to whom dictatorship represents their comfort zone, just as long as it's others who suffer from its most dire effects of course. For one thing it releases them of the responsibility of having to think for themselves. You can't always blame the top for everything that's wrong and pretend that everyone else are innocent victims. They aren't. Society is a collective effort, and if people rather watch some stupid game show than to take five seconds to check whether some news hype is fake or real, then maybe they just deserve to be screwed over. Plus there's the fact that most "subjects" are greedy cowards themselves. Really, the VAST majority of us are. I know that for a fact because I have seen their cowardice in action. And the ones to watch out for most are the "anti-authoritarian" types, they tend to turn into the biggest dictators themselves if handed just a grain of power.
Am I a pessimist?
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-03-12 09:20:59 +0000 UTC]
.... I am a pessimist. I am thinking what to answer, still thinking.....
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-05-19 11:57:02 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure whether to be an optimist or a pessimist. The world is changing so rapidly these days. Those in charge can't keep up with it themselves either
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-05-20 20:42:09 +0000 UTC]
In my opinion .....those in charge are untauchable, fare away from ordinary peoples lives, i imagine they are psychopaths, thats why i am a pessimist.
Thank you for the info about the history of the Netherlands, i did not know about it. The world is changing rapidly, i agree. it is not easy to follow world politics every day, i try to understand whats going on. I am sorry, i did not have the time to respond to your note. Thank you for your comment.
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-05-23 15:53:28 +0000 UTC]
There is indeed evidence to show that many a top manager matches the psychological profile of a psychopath. On the other hand, the rich and powerful are basically all of us: among the most powerful institutions on this planet are pension funds. These can make or break entire industries and countries. And we do expect a neat return from them, don't we? As for individual potentates, I think that what they are more than anything else is scared. The main question on their mind is, how do I save my ass when shit goes seriously wrong? And they feel that having more money offers them a better chance of "getting out". I'm quite confident that greed comes only after that. The systematic undermining of institutions in the western world is a serious issue though. But at the end of the day it's only a sign of the West simply not mattering that much any more. We aren't where the money is to be made. We're still a market, but no longer a growth market. So we can either slowly go down the drain, or else destroy Carthage, I mean China, altogether. I suspect that that's what Trump is after. Any leader who is concerned about protecting their steel and aluminium industries is on a war path. That's probably why he's such good friends with Putin. He'll be needing those airfields in East Siberia at some point or another. Europe is rather irrelevant in this picture. Too bad for us.
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aspruli In reply to undefinedreference [2018-05-27 18:54:08 +0000 UTC]
I want to tell you how most greecs suffer since 2008. I think it is an experiment to see how fare a government can go in our beautiful developed Europe. Wages has been cut several times, private business is going bankrupt, only to the benifit of big cooperations. Uneployment is very high, the young educated people leave the country, there is no more future for them. The pensions have been cut several times, new taxes ( temporarily) as they say....lies as usual. The have alowed the rich to take their money out of the country to invest it in London, Berlin and elsewhere, but there are strict controls of old people selling parsley or herbs without a receipt. The money from the IWF and the EU is used to pay back the high interest of international banks, burocracy did not change at all, there are still to many useless burocrats in power thanks to the corrupt system of all partys, no matter what color or ideology they may tell the stupid voters that they represent. All the polititions and their families and friends are well off. Their only concern is how to stay in power. The so called left Primeminster Cypras is selling out whatever big cooperations are interested in. Many homes could not efford heating in winter, the prices of real estate, cars, boats have dropped dramatically because many are forced to sell their posessions to survive ore to pay back loans . People with no posessions are fed by the church or other organisations. Racism did not exist in Greece, now they blame the refugees and all foreigners for the mess the polititions put us in to. They are an easy target, nobody tries to beat up polititions or set their houses on fire..As i often talk to my friends in Austria, it is gettin worse there as well. Everybody is worried abou their job, especially if you are over 50. They bend their heads, shut their mouth an find exploitation normal, because profit is god. 2 people are working the same job as 5 people before a few years....happens to a friend of mine, the salary stays low. The good times that we knew are over. I feel fortunate to be old, but i am sorry for the younger generation.
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undefinedreference In reply to aspruli [2018-06-16 06:04:30 +0000 UTC]
I don't really know what to reply to that. Does the average Greek know that Germany went through pretty much the same process during a decade-long recession in the 90s and early 00s? And it won't be of any consolation to Greeks to know that "rich" Germany still struggles with a huge poverty problem of the "On Sundays we have meat instead of cat food" kind (well, almost). The operation did make Germany come out stronger, just not for everyone. Mostly for "the shareholders". I do hope things will take a turn for the better for the Greek soon, and that the night has finally ended. If the economic measures of the past few years haven't proven capable of dealing with bureaucracy and corruption at all, that isn't a good sign for Joe Average.
I could write so much more "rational" stuff about the unlucky situation Greece has found itself in, but never mind. I don't think it's an "experiment" though. Just a very unfortunate coincidence of circumstances no one had foreseen. And the very few who might have foreseen it, nobody wanted to listen to. But that's by and large the definition of human existence
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LawrenceCornellPhoto In reply to aspruli [2017-11-15 08:25:06 +0000 UTC]
You are very welcome
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