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Description The trolls normally use the excuse of "free speech" as a excuse for cyberbullying. But itΒ΄s a lie, cyberbullying is something repulsive which make the victims feel bad, depressed and even think about suicide. Check [link] to know more about cyberbullying and the newest articles about the subject.
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AlucardioBrando [2019-06-30 14:51:01 +0000 UTC]

The hypocritical psychological-abusing Mach68 strikes again... Yeah, I know he will see this and be pissed about it (which is inevitable, because he stalks the entire website, spams his comments everywhere and hacks people's accounts; seriously how many times has he commented on this deviation alone?) but he should learn that he is a bad person which is why I (and probably other people) blocked him, to defend ourselves from bad people like him. Whenever he sees a person he dislikes, he goes out of his way to harass them and make their life Hell until they kill themselves. Granted, I am aware he will start mentioning me in journals/comments/posts/whatever and forcing other people to torment me instead (he can't because I blocked him), but at the end of the day he is the one responsible for ruining and ending a person's life, therefore he deserves to be punished... which unfortunately he isn't. Don't you just love it when bad people get away scot-free? I certainly do. (sarcasm) Alas, he hasn't learned from this incident and doesn't feel remorse for it. But because of bad people like him we are forced to forever live in fear. Well, if I ever see again him saying my name anywhere on this website I will deactivate my account and leave. This place has become a craphole and I won't be a punching bag for some psychopath who wants to harass me for shits and giggles. Eh, I have a real life to attend to (school, work, etc) unlike Mach68 who spends his life being a douchebag and better things to do than be his victim. However, it pains me that bad people like him are free to walk this world.

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MASTUHOSCG8845ISCOOL [2019-02-08 23:01:46 +0000 UTC]

YOU ARE RIGHT.

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AnonIsnothere [2019-01-20 21:06:15 +0000 UTC]

As much as i think its wrong it probably is

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WorldWideWebWalker4 [2019-01-10 16:54:51 +0000 UTC]

Mach68 is a selfish hypocrite, a stalking spammer and a cyberbully/psychological abuser. I found out he harassed a girl which was simply talking with a random person, which then blocked him in self-defense to avoid being bullied by him. But this triggered him, so he started stalking her, spamming her name in comments/journals/etc. He would not leave her alone and continued harassing her, until she couldn't take anymore and deactivated her account as well as commiting suicide. I heard she even left a journal in which she cried, losing her sanity from the constant abuse. While I've never found and read it per se (probably for the best, considering what I've heard about it), I've heard it had terrible things in it, including her being sexually harassed. Adding insult to injury, Mach68 doesn't feel remorse for his actions and has gotten away scot-free with stalking, harassment, cyber-bullying, spamming and psychological abuse (and probably other things). But unfortunately we can't protect ourselves from bad people like Mach68, because even blocking is no longer an effective protection method against harassment on the Web. There's nothing we can do about it, and the DA staff don't care about us, only their paychecks. it makes me disgusted knowing that Mach68 and other bad people are allowed to walk free on websites and do as they please, while we are forced to suffer. Don't these cyberbullies have better things to do than harass us? Heck, don't they have a real life? It makes me think the only reason they made an account for this website is to ruin (and even end) other people's lives. They have nothing productive to do, they don't contribute to society, all they do is make other people feel bad and abandon Deviantart (and other social websites), which is exactly what they desire, since they have complete disregard to real human lives. The only way to avoid such people and protect yourself is to either never make a profile here in the first place, or delete your profile and leave this God forsaken place forever. (after all, who wants to be stalked and bullied?) It's sad and cruel, but this is the way the world is. Bad people live and prosper without any repercussions, while good people suffer and die. DA has unfortunately become garbage.

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Xentrick-The-Creeper In reply to WorldWideWebWalker4 [2019-03-05 09:39:34 +0000 UTC]

Shit... Cyberbullying is some fucked up shit!

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Mach68 In reply to Xentrick-The-Creeper [2019-04-15 02:50:03 +0000 UTC]

It is fucked up, and I feel terrible about my actions.Β What WorldWideWebWalker4 posted is true but somewhat exaggerated. Here's the true blow-by-blow.

One day, there was this user who disliked Naruto named CrashBandicoot-Girl. She was talking with another user about how she dislikes Naruto and how dangerous rabid Naruto fans can be. I told her that the user used to like Naruto. That was it. Apparently CrashBandicoot-Girl took an innocuous remark like that as harassment, labeled me a rabid fanbrat (when I'm not) and a troll, and blocked me before I got to explain myself. That triggered me, and I started posting status updates and journals telling the whole world that CrashBandicoot-Girl was a coward. Unfortunately, my actions caused her to go insane and she deactivated her account. I don't know if she committed suicide or not, but I hope every single day that she is still alive.Β I also do feel remorse for my actions. I even turned myself in to the police, and if that doesn't show how much remorse I feel I don't know what else I should do. I showed the cops evidence of how I made CrashBandicoot-Girl miserable. The police gave me a stern lecture about thinking before I type and told me that I'm innocent until proven guilty. They haven't found anything about CrashBandicoot-Girl, but I really hope she is alive. If I am given the chance to apologize to her, I will apologize to her in a heartbeat.Β 

Oh, and WorldWideWebWalker4 is a cyberbully and a hypocrite too. She had a previous account called SpyroCinderFan1234, and she essentially told other users that she wished they were dead. I'll admit that I'm no saint, but I wouldn't wish death on anyone. Besides, if I want to insult someone verbally I will do it to his or her face.

I have proof of SpyroCinderfan1234's cyberbullying right here:Β  www.deviantart.com/saucepear

I'm not asking you to take my side. I just wanted to clear things up.

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Xentrick-The-Creeper In reply to Mach68 [2019-12-13 06:14:32 +0000 UTC]

Hopefully you learnt your lesson. And I do believe you.Β 

Don't worry, next time something similar happens, block that guy and done, problem solved.

Why the Deviantart staff did not took care of the problem?

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Mach68 In reply to Xentrick-The-Creeper [2020-01-04 05:10:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! By the way, Happy New Year!

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Mach68 [2018-12-18 16:48:53 +0000 UTC]

Cyberbullies are the worst kind of bullies. At least those who bully their victims to their face are willing to risk getting their ass kicked.Β 

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habituated [2018-10-14 22:05:30 +0000 UTC]

why is this in the search results of um jammer lammy?

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Scorching-Whirlwind [2017-10-15 17:13:50 +0000 UTC]

Damn right! And it's not "constructive criticism" either.

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Askippzer [2017-08-17 00:10:26 +0000 UTC]

True, there's a big difference but people just don't see it

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Killuanatsume [2016-10-05 16:06:50 +0000 UTC]

Trolls aren't bully. it's not the same.

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Another-Realm [2016-10-04 08:48:37 +0000 UTC]

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TalesofOlde In reply to Another-Realm [2016-12-06 00:12:58 +0000 UTC]

I'm rather curious about this entire situation, you tell her to "get over it" yet you're not willing to completely drop an entire situation and or an argument that's doing nothing but causing unnecessary hostility towards others and yourself? Wouldn't "getting over it." be for you to just walk away and move on with whatever there is that needs to be done in your life? "YOU'RE still a bully." Again, there's a simple way you could make all this bullying just go away. It's something called walking away from a situation that no longer needs attention and or to be brought up again.

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TheRavenFox [2016-10-01 05:15:01 +0000 UTC]

Another-Realm Β 

I'm not going to send it to you privately in an email, especially not from my boyfriend's email address. Β You said these things PUBLICLY, so let's put them out there for everyone to see!Β 

www.facebook.com/RavenFoxAudio…

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Another-Realm [2016-10-01 02:28:20 +0000 UTC]

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Killuanatsume In reply to Another-Realm [2016-10-05 16:06:29 +0000 UTC]

Stop accusing people of being cyberbully. Channeleven isn't and I am sure this girl isn't either.

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Another-Realm In reply to Killuanatsume [2016-10-06 00:01:08 +0000 UTC]

Your mere words don't prove anything.

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Killuanatsume In reply to Another-Realm [2016-10-06 00:13:10 +0000 UTC]

I have been friend with him for a while now, I think I would know.

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TheRavenFox [2016-10-01 01:30:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh! You mean like trying to find someone who lived near me? Yeah, I have the screenshot of your threat to do that as well as to ruin my career. Just because you were unable to do those things doesn't make your threat to do so any less hypocritical. You love to point fingers at others but you're the biggest bully of them all, Another-wwwarea.

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Another-Realm [2016-09-30 18:45:17 +0000 UTC]

Just ignore channeleven. I think he's a self denying cyberbully himself who believes somehow cyber bullying isn't real.
He supported attempting to find out where someone lived, aided an address of someone, and is a huge bigot. He also seems to use freedom of speech as an excuse to be an asshole and try to hide it by claiming the victims to be all about "egos".

He also has been a hypocrite.

And sure, some crap might be free speech such as some insults for example, but it is still morally wrong.

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Channeleven [2016-09-30 17:10:24 +0000 UTC]

Oh, my bad. I forgot that this is a now defunct criers group/

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Channeleven [2016-09-30 14:02:04 +0000 UTC]

Cyberbullying is also not a legitimate term, but rather a concept weaved by concerned parents and teachers that they impose on younger individuals before joining the Internet. It's also something that thin skinned people use whenever they get criticized. Rather than sugarcoat everything, honesty is the best approach, and many individuals instead pull the "cyberbullying" card because they are unable to dig past the hate and look for ways to improve themselves. Also, free speech is a two way street. Are we supposed to censor ourselves so we don't damage the egos of others?

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Killuanatsume In reply to Channeleven [2016-10-05 16:05:06 +0000 UTC]

Excuse me but cyberbullying DOES exist, I have a example of that have you never heard what happen to that youtuber called Amanda?! She was cyberbulled and harrassed.

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Channeleven In reply to Killuanatsume [2016-10-05 16:37:20 +0000 UTC]

Because she enabled her predators by posting her nudes online.

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DrawmanUniverse [2016-08-20 17:21:38 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU! I'm so sick of seeing people on YouTube and other sites using "free speech" and "satire" as excuses for being mean. Is is ok if I use this?

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MyLittlePrimo [2014-04-01 00:26:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! That's what I try to tell people, and yet the act of playing the free speech card hitherto lives on.

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senshi05 [2013-05-07 13:23:26 +0000 UTC]

They're free to bully. Just as we're free to dopeslap them for being jackasses.

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Chotzejarrell [2013-04-16 12:01:03 +0000 UTC]

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Andi1990 [2013-04-08 19:11:08 +0000 UTC]

It all depends on what your definition of "trolling" is. If you're on a public forum and people say nasty things to you, it's covered under freedom of speech. It's not nice, but they can do that. If they reveal information about you that is not publicly available or hack onto private accounts (hack, not 'guess-the-password'), use your bank details, send you viruses, doxxing, stalking, etc then those are illegal actions.

Cyberbullying, by the way, is usually bad because it's an extension of the bullying they were already facing at school or the workplace or whatever. The fact that people conflate trolling with bullying or outright criminal acts, that just goes to show how misinformed they are.

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ChroniclerWabba [2012-11-30 22:42:21 +0000 UTC]

People who feel threatened by "cyberbullies" and slump into depression and even consider suicide are too emotionally immature to handle not only the Internet but possibly the real world around them. Free speech does protect trolls joking and raging on the Internet. You don't have to like it, but nobody told you you had to. It's not a system that pleases everybody. It's designed to be fair. You have the right to make this stamp and voice your opinion, and I have the right to voice my opinion of your opinion. However, free speech does not protect legitimate news organizations and the press for lying and distorting facts, which is done daily. It also doesn't support things like yelling fire in a crowded building or making pretend bomb threats. Those things are real and have a stance in grounded reality, while cyber"bullying" is intangible. Unless there is a 100% chance of your person being physically harmed by these people, there's nothing to worry about. These things can be solved with using the ignore option or being the bigger person and not replying. It's not that hard, but somebody needed a new bandwagon and stretched out this thing into ridiculous proportions.

Then again, that's just me.

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PiplupSTARSCommander [2012-07-14 02:14:07 +0000 UTC]

That's Right!

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marisam77 [2011-10-04 19:03:14 +0000 UTC]

what the hell is wrong with kids nowadays oh someones mean to me on the internet im going kill myself NO you think it just started being like this when i was a kid if i someone didnt like you theyd just go up and punch you in the face and we didnt kill ourselves you dont see those African children whos parents got killed and are starving kill them selfs you sold out to the man disney channel told you to share your juice box with little timmy insed of using it to beat him and now the littlest bit of conflict makes you not wanna live if you dont like what people write you just dont read it

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Clair-Oneesan [2011-04-10 12:46:33 +0000 UTC]

Can you stop spamming random accounts and annoying everybody in dA with your troll/dox/whatever paranoia????
If you had a trauma, get out of this, get a life, your sucker!

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xwolftriggerx [2011-02-23 04:19:50 +0000 UTC]

Freespeech is freespeech there are no exceptions. If the so called "cyber bully" speaks their mind, that's freesheech, whether the person likes it or not. There are no limitations, which means cyber bullying is free speech.

Also, let me guess, this will be flagged as spam oh goody glee! You speak of "freedom of speech" yet you limit it on your profile. You're a hypocrite my friend, and I think you should go and read up a bit more on free speech because you obviously have no idea what it is

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atoorganization In reply to xwolftriggerx [2011-02-24 08:41:50 +0000 UTC]

Trolls statements are broken, because they encourage people to be reckless. And even free speech must have limits to not make ourselves
in trouble.
1) "Free speech means saying anything you wish and anytime you wish". That statement has fallen on ground, because we must limit our free
speech, otherwise we'll end just be in trouble or receive backlash from people alike.
For example:
a) You cannot just yell at your boss saying he have no balls for not giving you a promotion.
b) You cannot just yell fire in a crowded yard or market just for fun.
c) You cannot just play a joke saying you have raped your best friend's sister and enjoyed how she tried to resist.
d) You cannot just do a joke saying you've planted many bombs in a airport.
e) You cannot just tell the kids that the best way to deal with the sadness is just hanging themselves.
f) You cannot just invade a gay parade and call everyone as fa****.
g) You cannot just go to a funeral and tell the deceased person bought you the "lulz".
h) You cannot just say a joke to the police saying you have killed many people and they're fu**tards for never finding the corpses.

2) "People should accept diferent opinions". That statement is very broken, because there are opinions which we should keep for ourselves.
For example:
a) You can't just opine in a restaurant saying that you preffer dog food than their "shi*".
b) You can't just go to a rocking concert and give a opinion saying their music sucked and they should kill themselves.
c) You can't just opinine saying that you hate black people and they should just drop dead, you're only showing that you're a stupid racist.
d) You can't just opine the best way to deal with the super population is just killing the minority (poor people for example).

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Andi1990 In reply to atoorganization [2013-04-08 19:49:05 +0000 UTC]

a) You can yell at your boss. He might fire you, but you are legally allowed to do it.
b) I hear this one a lot and it's probably one of the laziest arguments I've heard. He're the thing about that quote - people are taking it out of context. The quote comes from a court case in 1919 (Schenck v. United States) in which the supreme court was trying to suppress the first amendment rights of the socialist party for distributing flyers against the draft because it apparently violated the espionage act of 1917. I haven't read enough about this, but don't you think that's kind of scary that the government thought it was appropriate to control what people were allowed to read? They did it purely to make sure that people would not think twice about going into war. scary.

as for saying fire in a crowded area, Hitchens did it just fine: [link]

c)Well you can, but that can be incriminating evidence against you. Also, does she know its a joke? Is it an inside joke? Why are they suddenly joking about this?

And if you really did rape someone, why would you tell anyone?

d) I guess this is the same as the fire in a crowded theater. Okay, I'll bite. The reason why that is illegal is because it can waste the time of people in the emergency services, which can put somebody else in danger. Well, I think it's illegal, anyway. Though, it really does depend - airport security can get tight one minute and be more loose the next.
e)Well, it really does depend on which country you're in, but an incitement to suicide (I think) is covered as a death threat. However on the internet, I'm not so sure. It's a slimy thing to do, though.

e) I think freedom of speech can defend slurs. The WBC never seems to have a problem with it. People use that word on a regular basis, despite what hate speech laws may be put in place. Now accosting someone and screaming in their face could be seen as harassment and an incitement of violence, so that person could get into trouble. However, just saying the word won't get you locked up (or at least i don't think it would in the states).

g) You can, but it's a nasty thing to say and you might get kicked out. Unless, of course, they wanted it that way. I'd want people to lol at my funeral. Unless you weren't invited to the funeral, in which case you'd get kicked out the moment you entered the building.

h)You can say it if it's true. If it's not true, well that's fucktarded and you wasted police time (which is illegal).

2.

a) Oh yes you can. Food critics do it all the time. Criticism is important, even if you don't like it.
b)You can. People do it all the time. Just ask Nickelback.
d)Yes you can. It's fucked up, but you're allowed to believe that.

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Masterge77 [2011-01-14 18:42:28 +0000 UTC]

I blame 4Chan for our idiotic internet society

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atoorganization In reply to Masterge77 [2011-01-23 11:22:49 +0000 UTC]

There is no point of talking about free speech when yet they ridicularize it. Free speech doesn't stand just for a single person, it stand for those who are being made fun of. Is ridiculous how they deffend cyber-bullying claiming it's free speech when in truth is just a way of repression. Also they said people are intolerant, but they don't tolerate people who have their own minds or did a article saying how they feel bad. The simple fact that they attack people who talk about their problems means that they're also intolerant. They believe that they have the right to bully these who are free to say what's going on with their lifes, so for them cyberbullying is "free speech" when others saying their problems is not? I know cases of trolls that attacked someone who was not feeling well by saying "If you kill yourself, then the world will be a better place." Frankly that quote is completly against free speech.

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LadyYonder [2010-12-05 15:50:26 +0000 UTC]

I don't think that cyberbullying is something that just going to go away. As long as there are children, there are going to be bullies too. And since this is the internet, people will say whatever they want regardless of if it's cruel and regardless of how it makes other people feel. just like in real life.

You can't control other people's words or actions. But what you can change is yourself. Just make a choice not to be unkind to others, and if you're the one being bullied, learn to not let it get to you. Believe it of not, people can choose whether to be hurt by it.

The last time someone on the internet said they were going to track be down and but a bullet in my head I laughed and started singing 'hit me with your best shot'. (the person ragequit ten minutes later)

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atoorganization In reply to LadyYonder [2010-12-23 07:37:26 +0000 UTC]

Cyberbullying is something which should be ignored. If attention is given, then the cyberbully will never stop pestering those who he/she attacked. Is like a mind game, we cannot control the trolls, but we can teach those who are bullied that giving attention will be worse. Just ignore and the trolls will fade like the wind.

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cupofblacksyrup [2010-10-05 22:39:08 +0000 UTC]

Amen! If you can't say it in real life, then why would type it for the whole world to see!? D<

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atoorganization In reply to cupofblacksyrup [2010-10-07 17:52:37 +0000 UTC]

Trolls are useless, there is nothing which we can gain with them. There is a loussy troll who love to try debunk the truth, he is a useless fool without any valid argument.

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cupofblacksyrup In reply to atoorganization [2010-10-07 20:47:31 +0000 UTC]

Amen! D<
And is he on here? Or are you just talking about a troll in general?

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atoorganization In reply to cupofblacksyrup [2010-10-08 09:38:56 +0000 UTC]

TheGreatMC or something, he is obsessed with cyber-bullying that he love to try in vain debunk the truth about trolls.

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cupofblacksyrup In reply to atoorganization [2010-10-08 18:51:20 +0000 UTC]

Well someone needs to put that guy in his place! D<

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atoorganization In reply to cupofblacksyrup [2010-10-10 09:33:36 +0000 UTC]

He wants just attention, so we should not argue with him. Trolls never agree with us and only does lame arguments which lead us to nowhere.

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cupofblacksyrup In reply to atoorganization [2010-10-10 13:37:27 +0000 UTC]

True

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doglver0108 [2010-07-10 01:10:37 +0000 UTC]

im not gonna argue with u anymore

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