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I just had this random idea of drawing two characters doing a staredown, as is custom prior to a fight in a combat organisation such as the UFC. For those who don't know it's an event that usually follows aften the weight ins where two fighters will look at eachother dead in the eyes and usually try to look as intimidating or confident as possible. Since I was in a Fire Emblem-y mood these days, I decided to draw two of its characters like this. And I settled on Ike, because he's cool, he's buff (definetly the physique you'd expect from a UFC fighter) and he's the main character and Shinon, because he's my favorite, he's a badass and he hates Ike. And I gave him tattoos because why... why... Why not?This was totally not just a excuse to draw shirtless men, I swear. But still, sexy back muscles are sexy.
If this really were to happen, though, I think most people would expect Ike to win. They sure don't look like they'd be in the same weight class, even though they're almost the same height (Shinon is still a little taller) but don't underestimate Shinon. He may not look like it with his usual green coat but he's hiding some muscle mass under there. Pulling a 100 pound war bow's string is bound to give you some impressive shoulder and back muscle mass. And if you look at their stats, Shinon's strenght cap of 36 (the same as Gatrie. WTF!?) is only one point lower that Ike's 37!
Who would win?
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Such muscles r a glory and amazing sight! Hottest character period. His abs and pecs r just so GOOD
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You're right. He is a delight to the eyes!
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Totally not a good excuse to draw shirtless men. Disapproved. Totally disapproved. Toooooootally.
...Kick his ass, Shinon. You did it in those old videos by Goldie, when it was Max Stats vs Max Stats. You can do it again!
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Shinon definetly has an edge because of his critical rate, Deadeye (which is twice as likely to activate than Aether and can put Ike to sleep for five turns) and the possibility to use the kickass Double Bow! And the fact that he can attack from 3 tiles away, where Ike can't reach him.
Shinon's the best!
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Well, with both having Nihil, Deadeye can't activate. But, that
hardly matters. Shinon still has a range advantage.
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Nihil makes things boring... But even then, Shinon's the best!
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Well... In the case of Zelgius/The Black Knight, it makes thing fair
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Yeah because Eclipse is total BS. OP. I don't think there's a single charcter who can survive it.
BTW It's nice to meet someone who actually likes Shinon. There's not a whole lot out there because of his... strong personnality.
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Pfft, no. Nobody can survive it. It does 280 damage.
And yes, I know. Shinon scares people off because of his
racism and overall attitude. For me, though, I knew there
was more to it. I'm glad I decided to use him and all that,
finding out his more hidden personality traits.
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Well his attitude is exactly what makes him stand out from the rest. When you actually stop to read his supports and info base conversations, you get to realize he has more character development and personnality than like 90% of the cast. There's a lot of subtle hints that lets you know that there's a second level to his personnality underneath the initial asshole-y-ness.
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Naturally. Most amongst the protagonists are deeper than their face values.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be protagonists.
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Sure but with a game with such a large cast, you don't expect a side character like him to have this mocuh development. Especiallly in RD where some protagonists are way less interesting (the enitre dawn brigade, Pelleas, etc...)
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I dunno. I found the Dawn Brigade to be alright. Though, I blame
the lack of development more on the lack of Support Conversations
in the game. They could've been so much better, but... They weren't
too terrible.
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I agree. The fact that they cut support conversations is a real shame, which is why nearly all the RD exclusive characters are uninteresting. Micaiha is the only one I actually hate though. The others are okay but they pale in comparison to the reoccuring characters.
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Mm. I used to hate Micaiah purely because others did.
After playing the game, I found a lot of the hate to be
just based on her lineage's powers. I mean, she's the
child of the Empress, and Lehran's descendant. She's
going to have some pretty hefty powers. Otherwise, it
is kinda pointless to have Lehran be a major player.
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I get what you mean. Me, I hate her because she is the very definition of a mary sue. Everything about her is cliché. The game tries WAY to hard to shove down your throat how much of a good person she is and how special and unique she is. Everyone gives her the merit of freeing Daein and saving Tellius and shit but she's one of the worst and weakest units in the game. Plus she ruined what used to be one of my favorites in PoR. Sothe. He used to have a personnality. He used to mean something. Not he's nothing but a slave to her.
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Yes, she could've had a bit more development. I mean, yes, she had her
'I must do this, no matter what the consequences' moments, such as when
she was about to light the Empress on fire with oil. As for Sothe, I can't
really speak for him, because I paid very little attention to him in PoR.
Mostly because Volke is a better unit in every sense. Especially after his
class change. But, from what I could tell, he was just bitchy and whiny.
Not much of a personality. Sure, he had his... "Cute" moment with Astrid,
but that was the extent of it. As far as I was concerned, in PoR, he didn't
exist. I got him, but never used him, save for the one time I wanted to
see if he could stand up to Volke's capabilities. He didn't. He really didn't.
Back in Micaiah, though... It was odd to find a Branded as the main Lord
for that one. Then again, it was our first Mage Main Lord, and our first
Female Main Lord that wasn't a complete pushover after Lyndis. I mean...
Eirika was just boring. Not to mention, that big milestone. The very first
Mage as a Main Lord. Like, willingly. Yes, in Awakening and Fates, you
can become a mage, or use tomes, but this was the only one that is purely
a mage, and doesn't use swords.
On her personality, I didn't really find too much wrong with her. In lore,
her abilities make sense. I mean, there are plenty of examples of previous
Empresses being able to sense danger, know when disasters are coming,
etc. So, her being able to do that is explained right away when you realize
where she comes from. Her personality is fairly McBasic, so it's not all too
interesting, but it's not something that grated on me. I just learned more
about her and came to the realization that she was just... A female main
character with deep ties to hefty lore.
I mean, I had the same problem with Final Fantasy 13. So many people
said it was a terrible game, and nothing was explained. I just tell them
that they weren't paying attention. It's all explained, if you took a bit of
time away from your eye-rolling.
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Personnaliy I liked Sothe in PoR. He didn't strike me as being whiny or anything but hey, you're entitled to your opinion and I respect it.
It's not that Micaiha doesn't make sense to me. She fits in the story no problem. I just hate her because she's a mary sue, cliché and they try way too hard to sell you how amazing she is, and she isn't. Besides she sucks as a unit. Low speed and Defense? That's a recipe for disaster if ever there was one.
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Low speed growth? Huh... She always had good speed for me,
but, then again, that's RNG. As for low defence, that's normal
for mages. Expecting otherwise would be stupid. It's like Ilyana's
absurd Strength Growth. In a Reclassable FE9-10, I might be
able to understand it, but it's pointless when she has nearly max
strength and barely enough magic power to rival Bastian when
he first arrives. Unfortunately, Ilyana's always been my worst
mage. But back to Micaiah, she's a mary sue, that's true. Cliches
don't bother me. It's why I can still enjoy mindless action movies.
Because I don't need something to be amazing in writing to enjoy
it. Stupid fun can still be fun.
Though, when it comes to speed, the worst offender in the Dawn
Brigade was always Leonardo. He straight-up NEEDED Speedwings
in order to be useful. Whereas Rolf and Shinon just outdid him in
every way. Honestly, just giving the Dawn Brigade a bit more leash
might've made the worthwhile. The only ones who ever did somewhat
well were Aran and Edward. Everyone else seemed to be very...
Weak by the time we got to the 4th Part.
Micaiah, based on Unit type, has perfectly understandable growths.
Low speed isn't uncommon amongst mages with high-as-fuck Magic
Growth and Cap. She's got a cap of 40, with the absolute max being
50. So, her low speed and defence makes sense. She's meant to
be a glass cannon. Her personality is... Nothing special. An odd
combination of Lyndis and Eirika. Though, honestly, both of those
women bored me even more. Sword-wielding lords are a quite weary
concept. Not to mention, Lyndis was supposed to be a major player
in the whole of FE7, but quickly became irrelevant after you got both
Hector and Eliwood. Especially after their promotions. She became
just the token female in the group who occasionally had her hissy fit
with Hector being the 'stereotypical axe user', meaning he's hot-headed,
but with a big heart. Meanwhile, Eliwood is the tasteful as cardboard
Main Lord. At least he was on horseback. That gave him a bit more
interest, because he wasn't just 'SwordUser.exe' Though, his personality
was shite... Honestly, a lot of the Main Lords have been pretty shite,
with only Hector being entertaining because of his Main Lord status,
whilst acting like a side character. Ike was one of the last well-written
Main Lords that I've ever seen. The newer ones have been okay, but
nothing to write home about. Echoes doesn't count, because it's just
a remake of an older one. Something I would like more of, honestly.
Though, if more new games are made, we need more mages, lancers,
and axe users in the main slot. Archers and Armored Knights, too. We
need more of EVERYTHING, save for sword-users. But, regardless,
Micaiah is not a fun personality type, but it makes sense, lore-wise.
You can't really blame Lore for making someone OP. At least, as a
unit, she isn't unstoppable. Ike and most of the Greil Mercenaries
are, but she and the DB aren't. Nolan is their tank, that should tell
you all you need to know. Because Meg sucks complete ass. High
speed on a Armored Knight... What moron decided that? I know her
father is the same type, but he has high Skill and Def. growths, too.
Overall, Micaiah is boring, Mary Sue, and they do their best to sell
her amazing-ness... But that takes a major hit because you don't
get to see how she really is via Supports. Which sucks, because I
know they could've done so much better. She could've been much
better...
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Micaiha akways had horrible speed for me. Always. She could never double attack except in the rare instances she got a ennemy that was a a much lower level than she was. Which almost never happens because she chages classes way too late.
Leonardo is slow and has shitty defense, which is once again the ultimate recipe for disaster. Shinon and Rolf are way better.
Nolan has below average defense and will rarely cap his strenght which is a downer for a fighter/warrior. He has the useful Earth affinity and Nihil, though. Boyd is the better option.
Edward is actually competent if a little fragile, low defense and resistance.
Sothe had excellent base stats but lows caps in critical places like strenght which makes him not all that useful, and once again overshadowed by Volke.
Meg is garbage. Gatrie is the best.
Aran is the only one which I use regularly, because he has very high strenght and defense, and skill.
Micaiha really has no excuse. Sure, she's got great magic, luck and resistance. But she still uses the weakest type of magic, which is disadvantaged against every type of magic except dark (micaiha will never once encounter a dark magic user in battle which makes this advantage null and void) Her sacrifice is useless since she has low HP (so little healing power) and she has short movement range (which is a hindrance because she needs to be next to a guy to heal it) Her sacrifice is made even more useless since she eventually learns staves (she is then overshadows by Laura in that aspect) The only good thing about sacrifice is that it heald status conditions (somehow). She's always disadvantaged, she upgrades too late, she has useless skills, weak weapons, low speed, low defense, low strenght (which hinders her speed even more when wielding a powerful tome)
Any magic user is better. Soren has extremely high magic and resistance, decent strenght and speed, plus Adept, an actually useful skill and a type of magic which can actually be useful.
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Yeah... Honestly, the Dawn Brigade got shafted... I mean, I
understand that they are supposed to be struggling against
their foes, but... I mean, so did Ike, in the early bits of PoR,
and he still did well. All of the Mercs did. I think they hurt
the DB a little too much when it came to growths. And they
made the growths that are hurting characters on the wrong
ones. I think only Edward and Aran had correct Growths. I
mean, Fighters are supposed to have High Skill, HP, and Str.
He only gets high skill and HP. That's stupid. Meg is always
shite. She's actually 'decent' when you put effort into her, but
that's just it. She requires effort. Waaay too much of it, too.
Sothe is your Jagen, so it makes sense. He starts out OP as
all hell, but is shite by the end. He was just supposed to put
up with the whole game. He's a very odd Jagen. Sacrifice
could've been better, but her low HP, like you said, makes it
virtually useless.
Edward's stats make sense, as does Aran's. One is a the
stereotypical Myrmidon and the other is a normal Soldier.
Laura was nothing special. She did what she was meant for,
so I guess she was alright. Leonardo... Oh, god, Leonardo.
An archer is supposed to have high speed, skill, and strength.
His Str growth is average, his speed is shite, and his skill is
amazing. I mean, his Def. and Res. growth are too damned
high. Take about 15-20% off of Res, and put it in Speed.
Poor guy. I liked his design a lot, too. And I also low-key
ship Leonardo and Edward.
Just, all in all... The DB got shafted in both stats, and in their
ability to develop. They need to remake Radiant Dawn, and
put actual support convos back in.
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I agree but that probably won't happen. I enjoyed RD a lot but there's a lot of things that could have been better, support conversations being one of them. And getting rid of Sothe's midrif-baring shirt, bloody hell...
I'm glad that they actually gave Shinon a major role in a cutscene (plus one of the only decent voice acting jobs in the game) and in three base info conversations. He's my favorite!
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What? C'mon. Sothe's midriff was the best thing about the
Dawn Brigade. It gave him a role in the later bits of Part 4~
All joking aside, yeah... The VAs could've used better direction.
I mean, the VA for Ike has gotten considerably better, and he
did decently in Brawl. Which was released only a year afterward.
So, yeah... Better VA direction, considering FE never had VAs
before Path of Radiance. Oh, gawd... Tibarn's voice. So adorably
cheesy. Zelgius' voice worked well, though. Moving back on
the topic... Yeah, there were numerous problems, but the game
is still wonderful...
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Haha we could talk about this until 2020!
Anyways, thanks for commenting. I'm glad you like it! It was nice talking to you!
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Indeed! It was nice chatting with you,
as well. Have a good one~
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