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Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 01:22:04 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that is true. But if you have a military, then why give military firepower to the public?

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Bobby-116 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-12-17 16:56:00 +0000 UTC]

Because in the event of a ground invasion on the home front the military can't be everywhere at once, so armed citizen militias are required to defend the places that the military isn't, at least in theory, it's also why the Japanese refused to invade the West Coast during WWII...

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bagera3005 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 01:32:44 +0000 UTC]

for back up

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CTSFSSRules In reply to bagera3005 [2019-11-11 20:45:59 +0000 UTC]

I see, well its an impressive arsenal.Β 

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Bloom3D [2019-11-06 06:26:18 +0000 UTC]

and this is why you got school shootings .

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bagera3005 In reply to Bloom3D [2019-11-06 07:07:07 +0000 UTC]

a guns a tool not a toy we get school shootings do to crazy that miss use the right an have bad mantle health help the man dont attack the hardware only way a tool can beΒ  bad is miss use we dont blame the car win it crashes its the driver most the time

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UnicornTheGundam [2019-11-05 22:17:05 +0000 UTC]

Fuck. Yes.


The very n o t i o n that government officials are even t a l k i n g about repealing the Second amendment is precisely why we need it.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2019-11-09 01:21:21 +0000 UTC]

I think its better if no one can bye an assault rifle like weapon like the AR-15. Seriously, the only people who need something like that is the Military and Police, civilians don't need something like the AR-15. I may like guns, but selling military grade firepower to the public crosses a line.

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achilles1669 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2020-01-04 02:27:10 +0000 UTC]

i served in the army.Β  I shot alot of their weapons.Β  I for one can tell you that the AR platforms are scary to look at but their ammo is a simple .22 with more power behind it.Β  They are damn near useless as they dont really kill.Β  The ammo wounds and injures the subject moreΒ  than a 7.62 which does massive damage to the human body.Β  Hell, a shotgun does more damage than an Ar.Β  Do you know why so many people use them to kill???Because of the look. thats it.Β  There is nothing special about an Ar.Β  And it is not an assault rifle.Β  There is no assault to it, thats just an action.Β  I can take my beloved driver in my golf bag and assault someone with it.Β  And it is strictly illegal to own a "Machine gun".Β  To own one legally you have to go through federal paper work, government paper work and give alot of money that by the time you get the proper tags and license, you are too broke to buy a weapon costing more than a car.Β  So please read up on this subject, because i am tired of people trying to out-talk others who knows more on the subject than any other in the convo.Β  I'm not trying to argue with you, but ive put alot of people in their place because they dont know the subject that well.Β  Be more worried about the people who wanna take our guns knowing full well when they do, all of us are headed to the gas chamber.Β 

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CTSFSSRules In reply to achilles1669 [2020-01-05 00:00:39 +0000 UTC]

I just don’t want to see another incident like Sandy Hook ok.

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achilles1669 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2020-02-18 03:51:15 +0000 UTC]

nobody does.Β  anyone in their right minds would hate to see another sandy hook.Β  But you take guns out of hands of law abiding citizens, then they are defenseless.Β  we may be forced to hand in our guns, but criminals and gang bangers and all those who kill because of some fucked up evil reason, they wont hand them in.Β  and a defenseless nation is vulnerable to those who broke the law.Β  cops cant protect us all, and at times so e seem to like being in the spotlight for abuse of the badge (but thats another topic).Β  Some people may roll their eyes, but the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun who is better trained.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to achilles1669 [2020-02-19 04:09:30 +0000 UTC]

You should here my brother say no one needs training to use a gun.

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achilles1669 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2020-02-21 04:26:02 +0000 UTC]

well thats obviously wrong lol

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CTSFSSRules In reply to achilles1669 [2020-02-22 01:46:36 +0000 UTC]

Trust me I have been trying to tell him that. But he says that no one needs training to use a gun, saying all you need to do is point and pull the trigger. I keep telling him its not that simple, but he doesn't listen. He also is against give law enforcement military grade firepower. Again, I keep telling him that they need that firepower if police ever deal with a situation like the 1997 North Hollywood Bank Robbery where the two suspects had fully automatic, Chinese copies of the AK-47, a fully automatic HK-91, an AR-15 style rifle with armor piercing rounds and body armor while the police had only handguns and shotguns.Β 

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2020-01-29 03:33:53 +0000 UTC]

You have no right to decide if people do or don't get to own firearms. End of discussion.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2020-01-29 22:03:21 +0000 UTC]

That's not what I am saying.Β 

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2020-01-30 03:47:34 +0000 UTC]

I know you don't want to see people die.


But if you want to help that, work on the abysmal way we treat mental health here in America.


Taking people's second amendment rights away is going to make the problem Ten Times Worse.

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 02:35:26 +0000 UTC]

You don't get to decide what people don't need.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2019-11-09 12:36:45 +0000 UTC]

I am only saying.

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 18:57:16 +0000 UTC]

Well, you aren't correct either way.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2019-11-09 20:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Let me ask you this, is it necessary for someone to own a M4 carbine or and MP5 for hunting?Β 

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Spartan198 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 21:50:10 +0000 UTC]

If I deem it necessary, yes. You do as you will, but as Unicorn said, you don't get to decide for me or anyone else.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to Spartan198 [2019-11-09 21:54:37 +0000 UTC]

I am not deciding for anyone, I am only saying that civilians don’t need a weapon based on the M16

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Spartan198 In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-11 09:11:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes you are. You're trying to decide for me what I need and don't need, something you do not have the right to do. You and the Left can kick and scream all you desire, but I and I alone will decide what I need and don't need and your opinion figures to absolutely zilch in the matter.

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 21:44:54 +0000 UTC]

Hunting isn't the only reason for protections for owning firearms like that.


We don't trust people like you.

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CTSFSSRules In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2019-11-09 21:53:41 +0000 UTC]

First off, I like guns as much as you do, but there are certain types of weapons civilians shouldn’t have access to. Aka, machine guns.

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to CTSFSSRules [2019-11-09 21:56:04 +0000 UTC]

You don't get to decide what Civilians shouldn't have access to, that's one.


Two, don't claim to love guns. You obviously don't understand them if you think we need gun control.


Three, the reason the second amendment exists is to defend our freedom against our own government. The mere notion that they even CONSIDER repealing it is the precise reason why we need it in place.


Four, machine guns have been banned for years. That didn't stop them from getting into the hands of people like the Crips, Bloods and MS-13. Your argument is invalid.

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WolfMoon25 In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2020-01-29 03:16:29 +0000 UTC]

Um, foaming at the teeth clinging to just assault rifles won't stop much with things called nukes, drones or tanks...

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to WolfMoon25 [2020-01-29 03:32:50 +0000 UTC]

So you think that the government is going to A: use Nukes, B: Use Drones, and C: Use Tanks against us.



Let me explain why you're an idiot.


A: Nukes are w a y too valuable to use on citizens. They're built as a first-strike method against enemy countries.Β 


B: Drones can be fooled, and shot down rather easily. Remember, the MQ-9 and RQ-4 aren't made of what fighter jets are made of, and are almost 5x slower. Besides, their weapons are meant to be used against armored targets, not dispersed militia.


C: Tanks are not foolproof. If you get Copper burning hot enough, it will go through basically anything.


Nukes, Drones and Tanks cannot perform house-to-house searches at 3 In the morning.


This is all based on the assumption that the military / National Guard / Police force will comply with these tyrannical notions.


Which they won't.


Please, stop trying to fearmonger and spread lies. You're making yourself look like an even bigger fool than you already are.

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WolfMoon25 In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2020-01-29 17:23:36 +0000 UTC]

My my, you seem like a nice person. Rather than the typical Stormtrumper tactics of projection, denial, name-calling and insults, maybe you should really think about that scenario, since the government is and has done extreme operations before, perhaps some are active now and we don't even know it. It's still a possibility!

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to WolfMoon25 [2020-01-30 03:43:24 +0000 UTC]

Maybe try to argue my point first, instead of being vague at best.


So far, I've been the only one with any sense here.


You're the one stupid enough to think the US Military will be on the side of the leftist cucks that try to emplace fascist laws.

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WolfMoon25 In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2020-01-30 04:57:29 +0000 UTC]

Again, what's up with the insults and name-calling? Leftism and fascism are very different strands of politics. Hmm, you seem to have quite the arrogant, might-is-right beliefs much like the fascists you claim to oppose. The US Military won't be as universally 100% gung-ho, "Don't-tread-on-muh-guns" as you reactionary fantasists want to believe. There's no sense arguing with an oafish boar.Β 

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to WolfMoon25 [2020-01-30 05:03:08 +0000 UTC]

Again, you haven't argued against my lain out argument. That's why everyone thinks you're fucking stupid.


The US Military is sworn to defend the constitution. They're sworn to the constitution. Not to some whackjob that wants to subjugate the people.


By the way. The next time you think Leftism and Fascism aren't related, look at the Soviet Union, Communist China, and to an extent the NSDAP.

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WolfMoon25 In reply to UnicornTheGundam [2020-01-30 05:26:13 +0000 UTC]

Again with the insults, haha! Want a kiss and a hug doing such a good job with the keyboard warring? The US Constitution is good in PARTS, but needs a SEVERE update with the complexities and technology of modern times. By the way, about Leftism and Fascism, they are still different anyway. Interesting how close your sweet daddy Trump is related to a certain German leader of the 1930s. Just food for thought. i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/or…

www.politicalcompass.org/chart…

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UnicornTheGundam In reply to WolfMoon25 [2020-01-30 05:31:41 +0000 UTC]

You still haven't argued relevantly to my points.


By the way, I love how you think the political compass means anything. A comparison between Trump and Hitler is stupid and childish at best, sort of like you.


We're done here.

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predator1701 [2019-11-05 19:12:59 +0000 UTC]

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Midway2009 [2019-11-05 17:54:13 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work

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larry03052 [2019-11-05 17:39:56 +0000 UTC]

...and Beto finally dropped out. Thank goodness, though I daresay any number of the ones still running are just as mad, just cannier about admitting it. Taking 'Joy' Behar's advice to Democrats to lie to get elected and then steal the guns...

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