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Description Lockheed Have Blue

Role Stealth demonstrator
Manufacturer Lockheed
Designed by Lockheed Skunk Works
First flight December 1st, 1977
Introduced 1976
Retired 1979
Status Planes destroyed in crashes
Primary user United States Air Force
Number built 2
Variants F-117 Nighthawk

Have Blue was the code-name for Lockheed's "proof of concept" (i.e. prototype) Stealth Fighter program which preceded the F-117 Nighthawk production stealth aircraft project. The Have Blue was the first fixed-wing aircraft designed from an electrical engineering (rather than an aerodynamic) perspective. The aircraft's plate-like, faceted shape was designed to deflect electromagnetic waves, making this plane essentially invisible to radar.

Two Have Blue planes were built to test both the flight dynamics and radar returns of the stealth concept. These prototypes flew at Groom Lake, Nevada, between 1977 and 1979. While they appear similar to the later F-117, the Have Blue prototypes were smaller aircraft, about 60% scale, with greater wing sweep and inward-canted vertical tails. The nose of Have Blue prototypes was also sharper and offered a slightly higher degree of stealth compared to production F-117 planes, which had to have a flat windshield to incorporate a head-up display.

During testing of the design, the aircraft was flown near (~100 miles away) to an army radar system, followed at some significant distance by a spotter plane; over a preplanned flight path. The cover story for the technology was that a black box in the nose of the aircraft was able to deflect the radar; whereas obviously the shape of the aircraft did all the real work. Radar only managed to detect the spotter plane; a soldier placed on the ground directly under the flight path had to witness the weird looking plane to verify that the flight had occurred.

The design was inherently unstable about all three axes, control being fly-by-wire adapted from the F-16's single-axis fly-by-wire system. Both aircraft were ultimately lost in the course of testing, the first from a hard landing incident which resulted in the gear being jammed in semi-retracted position and the pilot ultimately being ordered to eject after attempts to persuade the gear to lower and lock proved unsuccessful. The second was the result of an engine fire which severed hydraulic lines, forcing the pilot to eject. The debris from both aircraft was secretly buried somewhere within the Nellis complex.[1]

"Even though the test site was in a remote location, our airplane was kept under wraps inside its hangar most of the time. Soviet spy satellites made regular passes, and every time our airplane was rolled out everyone on the base who wasn't cleared for Have Blue had to go into the windowless mess hall and have a cup of coffee until we took off."
— Ben Rich, director of Lockheed's Skunk Works from 1975 to 1991.

[edit] Specifications (Have Blue)
Several CG rendered views of Have Blue, with overhead comparison of size relative to the F-117
Several CG rendered views of Have Blue, with overhead comparison of size relative to the F-117
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General characteristics

* Crew: one, pilot
* Length: 47 ft 3 in (14.4 m)
* Wingspan: 22 ft 6 in (6.8 m)
* Height: 7 ft 6 in (2.33 m)
* Wing area: 386 ft² (35.9 m²
* Empty weight: 8,950 lb (4,060 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 12,500 lb (5,670 kg)
* Powerplant: 2× General Electric J85-GE-4A turbojets

Performance

* Maximum speed: 600 mph (970 km/h)
* Range: 600 mi (970 km)
* Wing loading: 32 lb/ft² (156 kg/m²
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Comments: 11

RichTheWolf257 [2019-05-14 05:31:21 +0000 UTC]

Have Blue

Want Smash

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KIOPH [2016-01-13 20:19:34 +0000 UTC]

"hopeless diamond" XD

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kabuterimon [2010-02-22 08:37:03 +0000 UTC]

Let's see a hopeless diamond . As i recall , hopeless diamond was the first name of the project , which then split into Have Blue and Senior Trend. Also during the first radar test of the Diamond , they did not spot the mock-up model plane , nut a bird that was standing on it .

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Ovni-the-UFO [2010-01-27 20:19:57 +0000 UTC]

It occurs to me that the designers of Have Blue and the F-117, they called it the 'Hopeless Diamond' at one point because they swore it would not be able to fly. XD That was on a TV special about it...Modern Marvels, I think it was.

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Kryptid [2010-01-25 14:41:53 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, was the tail moved further back on the F-117 to give it more control authority than Have Blue? Looks like the tails were pretty close to the center of gravity.

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bagera3005 In reply to Kryptid [2010-01-25 14:54:00 +0000 UTC]

117 tails came from center angled out blues were angled inward

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Kryptid In reply to bagera3005 [2010-01-25 15:50:33 +0000 UTC]

That probably improved high alpha stability, right?

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bagera3005 In reply to Kryptid [2010-01-25 15:57:48 +0000 UTC]

yes

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damon771 [2010-01-25 14:02:59 +0000 UTC]

similar bird are rotten in budjanovci

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truemouse [2010-01-25 10:56:44 +0000 UTC]

I remember hearinf a story that before actual flights trials, one of these was parked on a plynthe at one end of the runway from radar equipment and it's location was instantly picked up, despite the signature being really small. Suddenly according to the radar it took off and dissappeared, there was much confusion and panic until someone had noticed on the cctv playback that a crow had landed on the stationary aircraft, got bored and flew off. They picked up the crow, not the plane on radar.

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Ovni-the-UFO In reply to truemouse [2010-01-25 12:59:19 +0000 UTC]

It's certainly possible, though it would have made the plane partially visible too. Any deformation of the hull (such as a jammed missile bay door or a bird on it) would make that part of the vehicle visible...

For instance, one of those jet shows that talks about future combat operations, an F-35 became visible to ground-based SAMs after it's bay doors refused to close. Of course, flipping the jet over to avoid the missile made it disappear because the top was still stealthy. XD

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