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Published: 2008-11-16 21:43:26 +0000 UTC; Views: 1874; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 102
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This is how I hoped the new Enterprise would've looked.Related content
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Although not all to my liking, it's still better than what they did!!
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The new movie will have a big showing the first weekend it is out, but by the time the third weekend rolls around, its boxoffice performance will be in the tank. I have seen a few of the images from the new movie, and they have deviated too radically from the original, and this remake will kill itself.
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The trailer says it all. Nothing will be the same. They changed everything. This will be the one to kill the franchise.
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Here's is what I would have done.
First, I would use the Enterprise as it is in the remastered episodes. That way, the ship is absolutely the "Big E", and all that associated creative work has already been done which saves time and money.
Second, virtually all the interior sets would be like the original. The only noticable changes I would do would be with the control panels and display screens on the bridge and elsewhere. I would make them bridge the gap between those on NX-01 and the Enterprise Class Enterprise NCC-1701.
The third thing I would have done is with the story plot. I would have simply made the movie a live action version of the (probably) first animated episode of ST:TOS. The animated episodes provide ready-made stories just waiting to be made into movies!
When I saw in the previews that the ship was being made on the ground, I thought "Oh God!", the guys making this movie are brain damaged. Ships as big as a Constitution Class heavy cruiser are going to have to be assembled in orbit. That's a given. Sadly, the movie is doomed from the start.
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Doomed is definitely the word.
Yes, starships have ALWAYS been built in orbit, I agree. Why they think this thing could should be built on Earth I have no idea, but then again, non-trekkers are doing the movie. That's what you get, I guess.
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I still don't like the nacelles bloated look, but other than that I like it.
And what is it with these producers and directors? Don't they realize that Star Trek fans need and want continuity, scientific accuracy, and good story telling? You cannot brush that aside. That is why Star Trek fell from its height. Each series after The Next Generation (Star Trek's peak) got progressively worse. (Though I like Enterprise, but not as a part of Star Trek)
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Why Star Trek fell from its height is that it stopped telling stories that people who weren't Star Trek fans could relate to, and started making episodes that were nothing but 40 minute long cavalcades of technobabble ended by a deus ex machina that anybody paying attention could see coming a mile away. You want it to continue to only talk to its existing fan base. I want Star Trek to live and thrive into the 21st century.
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I don't mean they shouldn't seek new audiences. If they didn't Star Trek would eventually die out. However, I don't want them to give the boot to all the loyal fans either, and I especially don't want them to change the core of what is Star Trek. The stories make the show, not the technobabble, not the action, not the effects. Its the stories that relate to the human condition. That is something that should span generations and various tastes. Voyager did go overboard with the technobabble, I'll agree on that for sure.
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I have to say that Voyager wasn't that bad. The idea of a newly designed starship wasn't bad, but the moving warp nacelles I just couldn't get over. How do you bend a warp conduit, especially in flight? That just didn't fly with me. But I do agree, the new Enterprise it definitely NOT within continuity. I guess they don't care about destroying an icon, much less a franchise.
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To get this ship was too much to ask for!
So we Got the JJ TurkeyPrise!
Unfortunately this "Trek" Movie wasn't made for Star Trek fans, but for the iPod, Lap-Top Phantom Menace Idiots who have no tastes or understanding of good storytelling. Hence the obvious fast pace of the film based on the trailer. I wouldn't hope for character development.
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I'm one of the people that loved both new movies, am 46, and have been a fan since I was 5 years old (I was born in 1968 in Toronto.) Not all of us are young people.
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Me either. Sounds like they got some actors who "resemble" their predecessors and here, just do this, don't worry about continuity, just make up stuff as we go and they'll accept it. NOT!!! Star Trek has a history, and a lot of it involves the ship. Why, in Gods, name would they want to change that?
Oh I know. Because they have no respect for the hard work the original show, and movies have done.
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What's irritating me even more is that I've been reading stuff on TrekMovie where there are some trailer/early Scene "reviewers" and the very same generation of so-called Trek fans that made statements that the original tos and the movies had cheesy effects with bad story telling.
Now I can't argue about the effects of TOS, but those were the days. Now we got TOS Remastered and the Movies had great effects and don't get me started on the storytelling of those episodes and Movies! Borrowing from classic literature and real life human events mixed in a SCI-FI background made for great storytelling probably FAR superior to whatever JJ and Co. has in mind. From what I can tell we can at best expect a Joseph Campbell-like story mixed in with the Usual J.J. garbage!
(Sorry I am not a Lost fan. I hate a series that doesn't answer any questions and raises eve MORE! Kinda like what X-files did.)
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I thoroughly agree. If you can't resolve questions with answers instead of more questions, where does the story go?
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It's nice to hear that I am not the only one who has a problem with the new Trek film.
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Despite what some Ignorant People would say, It's doesn't make you less of a Trek fan for Liking or not Liking JJ-Trek!
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Me too. I am an avid fan. And a fan means you have your favs, and not favs. Everything can't be perfect, but I know what you mean.
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That was the tentative image as shown on Ex Astris Scientia, wasn't it?
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Nope. It's the same one in the trailer. The NEW trailer. It sucks.
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No, I mean before the trailer came out this was the tentative image they showed. Someone came up with the schematics for what they thought it would look like and this was the side view.
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I know. But this IS the Enterprise. If you watch the NEW trailer, it's in there.
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