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Published: 2019-09-20 17:34:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 3471; Favourites: 137; Downloads: 34
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Doing more research for the new Roan RPG book Roan: World at War. The Kickstarter for it is now running Link. As the lead artist I am being charged with defining the look of the equipment used by the various combatants. In the future I will be post a more detailed article on the subject.
Here's some brainstorming I did recent trying out ideas for possible designs for APCs and other AFVs, half-tracks, and tracked transport vehicles.
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the top left tank reminds me of Metal Slug's tanks, really cool!
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the bottom vehicle reminds me greatly of the German 'Raupenschlepper Ost' transport.
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Very nice war hoses you got there
You see what i did there
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I like that little scout tank the most out of this bunch of proposals. It suggest an improved M3/M5 Stuart with a Sherman M3 track layout. Very nice! Also those battle taxi look very good too.
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Are there any plans for more "exotic" designs, or is the aesthetic purely based on human tech? I suppose I just wonder if ponies would design their vehicles the same way we would...although based on the way most technology develops, I guess it's more of a function of the success or failure of particular designs at particular points in time. Would be interesting to see something ground-up though.
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Hm-m the tank on the top looks like a hybrid between M7 and M4 and German "Panther" stood near so the result has it's butt. Then the rusult of breeding M7 or M4 with Soviet T-26 or it's parent Vikkers 6-ton. Typical M113. Totally rectangular box on tracks so practical that even outnumbered Soviet MT-LB. Half-track APC with frontal part like German truck (or Brittish I remember something like this). AA-gun like German "acht-acht" but most AA-guns looks similar. M113 with archaic American chassis from M4. The tracked lorry... IIRC USSR had something like that.
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The full-track APC has an open passenger compartment, so it's not really an M113; it and the one below it remind me more of a Pansarbandvagen 302 with the HVSS and VVSS suspension from an M4. The halftrack SPG strongly resembles the 8.8cm Flak 37 Selbstfahrlafette auf 18 ton Zugkraftwagen (Sd.Kfz. 9). The tracked cargo vehicle is clearly derivative of the Raupenschlepper Ost RSO/1. The halftrack APC, aside from looking like the same "truck with tracks replacing the rear wheels" philosophy that gave us the M2 through M5 halftracks, looks odd because of the relative positioning of the door and vision slits; it looks as if the crew would have to climb up when entering to reach the seats, which would have to be placed uncomfortably close together, since they're elevated to sit over the engine in that cabover layout. The armored car is a mostly nondescript gun truck.
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Raupenschlepper Ost RSO/1 itself is a deriative form Soviet STZ-5 and "Stalinets-2" and possibly other types of Soviets artillery tractors. Germans captured them in 1941-42 and decided they want something like that too. In post WWII time this concept practically disappeared because vehicles like M113 or MT-LB can be used as artillery tractors, APCs and trucks (I don't know about M113 but MT-LB has civilian versions).
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US had the M548. Not quite the same cab but similar. All purpose tracked carry all.
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I never did understand the logic of half-tracks cars and trucks.
As fun as the little tank looks, I'd go with the tracked truck on the bottom for getting around town. And using parking spaces even if they're already in use.
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Nicolas Moran (The Chieftain) has done some nice videos on half tracks. Especially the differences between American and German. Military History not Visualized and Inside the Chieftain's Hatch
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I was going to recommend his videos if no one else had mentioned them. In particular, the "Oh, bugger, the tank is on fire" demonstration of how easy it is to unass the tank in a hurry.
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Half-tracks were easier to drive over long distances, That's about it.
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For their time and the available technology the half-track represented a compromise between off-road capability, on-road performance, and economic cost. Nicolas Moran has done some videos on the topic. In particular there were some important differences between German half-tracks and US half-tracks. Inside the Chieftain's Hatch
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Not necessarily cost in one of his videos, Nicholas commented about a conversation with an individual who was involved in the manufacture of the SdKfz 9 twelve-ton halftrack, who said that for the cost of three halftracks, he could have made five Panther tanks. The American approach was more oriented toward ease of production, maintenance, and cost -- the US halftracks were essentially a truck with the rear wheels replaced by a track assembly. Objectively, the German halftracks were easier to drive, particularly off-road, but they were expensive and maintenance intensive. Fully tracked transport would have been better, with the exception of road speed, but the Germans did not solve the technical problems until too late in the war for them to convert to production of fully-tracked personnel carriers, the US was more interested in 'good enough, don't slow production when we have a working solution', the British were satisfied with the Universal Carrier, and the Russians used everything they could produce or had shipped to them via Lend-Lease.
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Where's the pony-fied Bob Semple?
Great to see the brainstorming!
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For maximum laughs, there needs to be at least one chunky, tank-treaded segway in there.
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My favorite is the mini-tank at upper left. It reminds me of Bonaparte in Dominion. Maybe it’s Ponaparte?
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Ponaparte
I like that Catspaw, nicely thought out!
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Haven't you thought about giving any of the factions something resembling the Kettenkrad?
Kubelwagen, Schwimmwagen, and the Kettenkrad. There's also all of the other military vehicles (such as the Damiler Ferret), but those three I always considered pretty cool.
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Those will be something more likely used by the griffins from Falconigrad. At the moment I focusing my study on Roan and the Ratavarians. At the request I will be striving to keep a US look to Roan vehicles. All the vehicles you described are German and look very different.
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Although if you take a standard motorcycle and do the same 'wheel for track' swap that the M3 halftrack shows, you'd get something with more of the US design esthetic, with the option of swapping the front wheel for a ski for winter operation.
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Ok, so Ponies use Jeeps. That is cool.
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Ok, so Ponies use Jeeps. That is cool.
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