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Problem Solved
It sounds funny because the God debate is often portrayed as such a profound and insoluble riddle. But if you actually do Google it, you’ll find plenty of articles about untestable hypotheses, anecdotal evidence, Ockham’s Razor, and other useful info about how to evaluate claims, as well as info about evolution, cosmology, particle physics, and other relevant subjects. (I’ve even written a few myself.) Sure, you’ll also find websites like Answers in Genesis, but if you read everything that’s available, you’ll understand why it’s not called Correct Answers in Genesis.
So if anybody asks you why it’s irrational to believe in God, you can just tell them to Google it. And if they accuse you of naively oversimplifying a complex issue, just direct them here.
Examples of useful info that can be found by anyone who is genuinely inquisitive:
Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 1)
God is Imaginary
Why Won’t God Heal Amputees
Skyhooks and Cranes
Unfalsifiable claims
Ockham’s Razor
The Best Case For God: Refuted
The Euthyphro Dilemma
Abiogenesis
An article about how to look for intelligent design, with links to lists of embarrassing counterexamples to intelligent design.
A Universe from Nothing
For more religious humor, check out
My Religion
The Bible Says God Doesn’t Exist.
And…
is religiously metaphorical by ~BlueMeadow193 .
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It's wrong to try to finally get MANKIND into the 21st century by extinguishing one of the most common reasons for WARS, by just telling people the truth?!?!?! (okay this is not really a very sophisticated way to do so, and it is just ... stupid with that "google"-crap, and does not even look good, but the movement itself, to really spread "the GOOD word" a.k.a. "THE TRUTH" is in fact something good.)
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Nobody -knows- the truth. It's most logical to think what most consider the truth, and the current most popular theory makes the most sense, but nobody knows for sure.
People used to 'know' the world was flat.
People used to 'know' this was the only planet to exist.
So yes, whilst it's 100% the most logical thing to believe, I don't see what's wrong if other people want to believe something else. It does no harm what so ever to anyone. [ Unless they take religion too far and start to try and control what others do, but that's an entirely different story altogether. I'm talking strictly about the belief of something else.]
The belief does no harm. The belief makes no difference other than, oh look, someone believes something different to what you do.
Whilst you hate it when people talk about their religion like it's fact, they hate it when people talk about atheism like it's fact, too. To them what they believe makes the most sense. To you, what you believe makes the most sense. Both for completely different reasons.
I don't see why people can't just leave eachother be and let them live with their own opinions and thoughts without having to shove it in eachother's faces. [Because, after all, everything religion related is just opinion.]
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I don't oppose "believe" as such, I just oppose RELIGIONS and their institutions ... people live their lives after "RULES" which someone AGES ago wrote down ... why not eat pig meat? why do I have to go to church each sunday, if I don't want to go to hell? Religion is an instrument of the DARK ages to control the masses, but people don't seem to get that "free believe" would be a much better way to live out their "spirituality" ... most "believers" just follow a pattern which "all the others" also follow ... that is just stupid ... I would NEVER offend someone if they found their OWN believe, without those idiotic "rules" and that crap ...
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Why not eat pig meat? - Because that's what they believe.
Why go to Curch on sunday? - Because that's what they believe.
If something doesn't affect you in any way, shape, or form, then I don't see why you feel like you have a right to tell people where they can't go on Sundays or what they can and can't eat.
Your opinion is it's stupid.
Their opinion is that it makes the world of sense.
You shouldn't offend anyone regardless of what they do. If they believe in something they've heard, i.e. in school, church, the bible, their upbringing etc, then that IS their OWN belief, because they've chosen THEMSELVES what to believe. Sure, it's influenced sometimes heavily, but if they didn't want to believe it, then it's simple as they wouldn't.
I think you're being incredibly ignorant.
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May be so, but are they really FREE in chosing their believe?
If I'm brought up with all that ... "religious wisdom" ... I don't really have any other choice, because I would contradict MYSELF if I tried to stop believing and nobody can do that willingly ... so that is what I hate concerning the "big religions" ... FREE CHOICE OF BELIEVE? More like what you are fed is what you will become. (in that case, in MY opinion, LIES!)
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They're more free believing what they want and following those rules than they are with people constantly ramming opinions they don't want to hear down their throat.
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Freedom of speech, ever heard of that?
And I guess someone who wasn't brought up with such nonsense would be able to make up their own mind from what "opinion ramming folks" like me and all those hardcore christians/jews/muslims have to say. ;D
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I'm glad someone else is able to see sense, too.
I just find it so disrespectful when Atheists complain about Christians 'bible bashing', then proceed to shove information and science in religious people's faces. It's so hypocritical and, quite frankly, rude.
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Agreed, my thoughts as well. Normally I would just roll my eyes and skip over a deviation such as this.
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I thought it was someone actually bashing on athiests with sarcasm, I thought it was a good giggle. The description is what made me speak up.
Everyone just needs to calm the hell down and say "Hey, how about this. I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe. We can now talk about it in harmony without busting into debate, and live our lives thinking whatever we want about the world."
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I'm sorry, why did you delete it and then re-upload it?
Did you get too many negative reactions on your oldest first comments and got ... I dunno ... embarrassed?
I mean really, what is your point in all of this? Do you have some sort of pent up Atheist aggression and just can't contain it.
You make me weep for humanity ... more so than any creation loving religious person.
You are trying to prove something doesn't exist. WOW ... well done on originality and attempts that have got their asses in a knot. It's almost (but not quite) as bad as your previous God doesn't exist thing. You clearly do not understand these things, please stop before you really damage atheists who are decent people!
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No, I expect negative reactions. In fact, I'd be worried if I didn't get negative feedback, since it would mean that I wasn't challenging anyone's views. I re-posted it because the first time I posted it, a glitch kicked it off the front page and rendered it irretrievable in searches. At least, I hope it's a glitch, and not $taffer's passive-aggressive way of censoring me. Anyway, I hope it doesn't happen again.
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Why the hell do you want to surround yourself with negativity?
Is that a necessary way to feed off people? Maybe gain watchers?
You're not challenging views. You're just making decent atheists look bad.
Do you like it when people shove their beliefs down your throat? Because this and your previous God doesn't exist message (even though badly thought out and incorrect) is doing that and your basically laughing in the faces of the people that do believe.
Does it make you feel good knowing this? Make you feel superior maybe?
I actually like your other stuff ... but this really makes me weep for humanity. To be so self inflated as to try and prove something that is not actually provable (or in the very least there are arguments from opposition that make a good case.)
I had this hate filled spit in my inbox twice now, I don't need it.
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It' isn't that I want negativity; it's that I don't want to voice opinions that are too obvious. For example, I don't want to say that Nazis are bad or pedophilia is wrong, because that doesn't distinguish my worldview from anyone else's, and therefore doesn't make a statement.
BTW, my previous atheist posting was a satire about how anybody can interpret the bible to support whatever beliefs or values they want; it isn't meant to be taken literally.
To say that the existence of God is unprovable is, itself, an assertion, and it isn't entirely true. In some of my more serious writing, I respond to the Christian justifications for the logical impossibilities of some of the Judeo-Christian God's properties (e.g. a loving and all-powerful God ruling over a world full of suffering and injustice) and show that they are, indeed, impossible.
Furthermore, it's important to note that there's no evidence in favor of God. And if there's no evidence for something, it doesn't make sense to believe it even if there's no direct evidence against it. It's a matter of burden of proof. Classic example: if I claim that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, nobody would take it seriously even if nobody could provide evidence to the contrary.
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Actually, using the Bible to disprove God just makes you look like you haven't read it or that you don't understand it.
Example from your work - sacrifice - God sacrificed the body. The Bible states that God can only take the soul, since it was a sacrifice ... He only took back that which was already His. You cannot remove the soul from existence (as is stated in the Bible, your soul belongs to God and cannot be offered to any other being).
The Bible is pretty clear on souls, your satire falls flat on it's face.
I read on some Yahoo answers question regarding the big bang theory ... not as proof that God exists ... but proof that science cannot disprove with 100% positivity that there is not something beyond their capability of understanding. It's the question of how the nothing became something. It acknowledges the Big Bang but finds that you need something to create something.
"Is there infallible proof that supports the big bang theory?"
"A theory has no proof, only evidence that points toward it. The big bang theory has no proof.
It is a good theory though, one that theists and Atheists can both believe (even if there are people from both sides that deny it)"
"Big bang theory... It sounds good, I guess when God created it, it must seem like it just blew up out of nowhere. lol. Maybe it is true, but I would have to say it was caused by God. 
There are other questions and answers that are probably far better than this example. There is no proof that the Abrahamic God or Norse gods or Greco Roman gods or some unknown scientific miracle occurred ... it did however happen. Science cannot explain making nothing into something ... it has >theories< getting close to milliseconds after the BOOM. The theists have an equally puzzling question of where did God / god/dess come from ... I know the Abrahamic God is not set within normal parameters of time and space and is beyond human comprehension ... it is a loophole if you will. I would have loved to watch that universe from nothing vid ... but f*** my net is slow and that will guzzle my gigs (and I do not have money to buy more) and I don't know if I have the concentration span to sit through 1hr.
If it makes no sense to you, do you throw it out or shelve it for further examination? If something has plausible reference, however seemingly impossible, would a scientist throw it away?
You cannot disprove God / god/dess as much as you cannot prove the Big Bang.
I'm not a fan of religious debate ... it's circular and often contains enough straw men to cover the African continent. I don't have enough knowledge for real in depth arguments either; nor do I have the necessary skills to convey my thoughts. There really is no point in arguing it, neither arguing side will give anyway. Maybe one day you will stop trying to prove you are right, maybe you won't ... only time will tell.
Good luck to you on your endeavours.
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The Bible states that God can only take the soul, since it was a sacrifice
I think you meant that only God can take the soul, and that still doesn't make that much sense. Since the sacrifice was to himself, does that mean the soul was still destroyed along with the body?
... He only took back that which was already His.
Then it wasn't a sacrifice at all. Think about it.
You cannot remove the soul from existence (as is stated in the Bible, your soul belongs to God and cannot be offered to any other being).
a) Where in the bible does it state that a soul cannot be removed from existence?
b) The "sacrifice" is supposedly being made to God anyway, so the second part of that sentence is irrelevant.
The last part of your post shows a complete lack of understanding of burden of proof, and only passing interest in doing research before you speak. You tell me you didn't watch the video that goes through the evidence of the big bang (which you should be able to access free at a library if you use headphones), yet you don't hesitate to assert that the big bang is unprovable.
Furthermore, it isn't the business of the skeptic to disprove the existence of God; the burden of proof is on those who claim that God had a role in the beginning of the universe. Sure, I can't prove it's logically impossible for some sort of intelligence to have initiated the big bang (although what we understand so far about the space-time manifold at the beginning casts a great deal of doubt on this), but I can't prove it didn't begin with a unicorn fart either. Do you see the problem? It isn't about what I can or can't disprove; it's about what you can prove, or at least provide evidence to support.
BTW, your last paragraph is really condescending. (Probably more so than you intended.) It reads like, maybe one day I'll be as smart as you and realize that everything I'm doing is futile. It actually isn't that hard to disprove many aspects of religion, or at least prove that there's no reason to believe them; it's just hard to get religious people to accept that's what you've done. Still, it's not impossible. People have de-converted as a result of reading Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. Every influence helps. Although in the case of this particular upload, my goal was more to entertain those who have already rejected religion, than to convince anyone of my position.
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Yeah ... my English is up to shit. Correcting it would probably make little to no difference.
I'm not getting into religious debate; I already stated that. If you don't understand me first time round, you won't the second time round (that's not condescending, it happens all the time with me <<< learned this through repeated experience) or I will answer you with what I know and the argument goes on and on and on and on and ... ahh screw it ... you get the point.
The last part of your post shows a complete lack of understanding of burden of proof
I wasn't attempting to prove ... but wow you came off incredibly arrogant. You missed my point completely if you think I was trying to make anyone prove or disprove anything.
You tell me you didn't watch the video that goes through the evidence of the big bang (which you should be able to access free at a library if you use headphones) <<< I live in South Africa ... just need to look on my page to find that out! I pay through my ass for internet and it is slow. You can go ANYWHERE you like and get the exact same result ... home, internet cafe, restaurant <<< Your pick ... it's not gonna be any different. SHEESH! Not to mention SA is as backwards as it gets with libraries, the only libraries I know with internet are at my old university and you have to PAY to gain access if you are not a student < which I haven't been for 2 years! You think the whole world is as privileged as you are internet wise? Think there's free and or cheap net everywhere? You think that all net is the fast speed you have? Dude ... even at your slowest you are faster than us.
I never tried to refute the big bang nor did I try to prove God god/dess ... Science cannot explain making nothing into something ... it has >theories< getting close to milliseconds after the BOOM. <<< why yes that statement clearly shows that I believe the big bang is real (or plausibly real until another plausible thing presents itself) 
I actually said that both theists and Atheists can believe it created what we know today
but I can't prove it didn't begin with a unicorn fart either.
THAT is exactly my point! You can't say with any certainty that anything did something to create whatever. Hence my - EVERYONE can believe it statement ... nothing to state otherwise ... nothing at all (yet).
Do you see the problem? It isn't about what I can or can't disprove; it's about what you can prove, or at least provide evidence to support.
Still cannot prove what caused the BOOM ... see the problem? A bunch of theories is not proof, it's a bunch of theories that lead to more theories, that lead to more theories, that lead to more theories ... and so on and so on.
I'm not attempting to prove theism ... I am merely saying that there is no reason to tell people they are idiots because they believe. You tell them that then you need undeniable and complete proof of how the Big Bang was BOOMed into existence and that there is no way possible that any outside supernatural event caused it. Or just plainly prove that it was impossible for any supernatural thing to cause whatever theory comes next. Not that this will stop people believing ... it just may convince a lot to "de-convert"
The last paragraph has nothing to do with smarts. You read what you read and if you believe that, then I can't change your mind regardless of what I say. I don't view you to be any less or any more "smarter" than me ... just more argumentative. It's not that hard to argue why people can believe either (and can believe whatever they damn well please) without having Atheists breathing down their necks and shoving their lack of belief down their throats.
You entertain people with things you don't know. As I said before, you don't seem to grasp the basic concepts (you're not alone and that is not a dig; you may want to do more research into it though). People de-convert ... they also plainly convert. Evidence is not what makes people convert ... "proof" is anything you want it to be ... could be a spiritual encounter (whether Atheists believe it or not does not make that experience any less real "proof" for that particular person)
And why am I trying to be sensitive with how you read things? You don't care how you treat a vast community of theists or care how condescending you come across.
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Hm, I wasn't originally going to comment, but I keep seeing people who's argument to this, uhm, "artwork" is that people wrote everything on Google, which means it can't be believed. Well, who wrote the Bible? I'm pretty sure God didn't- so what in the world are you supposed to believe, when everything available to read was written by people? I just don't see how saying it was written by people makes it invalid. Everything is written by people.
Honestly, I don't think there is a way to prove or disprove any religion, but I do prefer those that are tolerant of other religions and their beliefs (which Christianity doesn't seem to be, so its not really my cup of tea as far as religions go) but that's just a personal preference of mine. I think religions would be more "pure" if everyone was allowed to develop their ideas of how the universe functions on their own, and not raise children by assuring them something with no real evidence is true. Those kinds of decisions should be left to the individual, for something develop with them as they get older and learn more about themselves and the world.
And, as for all the people who are complaining about this kind of thing being posted- though I don't find it very artistic, I actually enjoy being able to read all the constructive arguments in the comments.
It would be nice to see more open-minded people around, but that's just my opinion. Believe what you want, as long as that's the conclusion you would have come to on your own, and not just because you've grown up with people telling you things, or reading about them in a book written by PEOPLE. Your divinity should come from inside yourself, not from inside a book, or out of someone else's mouth.
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the problem is not the existence of god (however, depends on what you mean by god)...
you can believe or not...
just don't impose it to others!
("Men will never be free until the last "king" is strangled with the entrails of the last "pope"!")
-> [link]
.live and let live
peace
: )
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euh i don't believe in God either but that you googled it is not really proof. Google personolizes your google search on the hand of the searches you searched for in the past. So if you bought a bible with chrome you'd get all christian wesbsites all over google when you google it...
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How -dare- you use God's name in vain! And you even used God's resources to do so.
As a member of The Church of Google I am offended.
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Glory be to Google,
As it was in 1998,
Is now,
And ever shall be,
Searching without end,
Amen.
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Omgggg if ur religious u wuldnt post it and think its funnny i think u shuld think first and thn post
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I belive in god, but this is funny
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Ha. It reminds me of how the average internet folk think. I saw it on the internet. It must be true! Time to start the meaningless internet polls!
As for God, I can't say. I don't think it's possible to prove or disprove of him or it but I think it's more likely he doesn't exist.
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A common atheist belief is that it isn't a "someone" who created things, but a rather things growing and developing from cells since the beginning of existence (the Big Bang) by evolution and natural selection.
However, not all atheists believe in evolution or even the Big Bang. They simply believe that there is not a single person or a group of people controlling fate or people who created us and the world. To be atheist is to believe that there are no gods.
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ok......i'll just stick to what i know.........well.............you never know until ya die........well im not trying to make you mad but, i think its the only way for everyone to find out. not just "googling" it.
sorry for bad engliah.
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Yeah I definitely agree with you on the Google thing. That's why this post was meant to be taken lighthearted, because if we could justify stuff in reality by saying that you Googled it we'd have some serious problems in the world :< heh
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Hey, if Google is omniscient, wouldn't that make Google at least semi-divine?
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Church of Google.
.. Google it.
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I don"t believe in god anyway :3
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I do hope everyone realizes this is simply a joke.
And nothing to be taken seriously.
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Well I'm not gonna say that God does or doesn't exist. I will say that the existence of God just like everything else in religion: questionable
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Different people,
different opinions
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Seriously, people getting offended by this are taking way too seriously what they believe in.
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Just because you "Google" it, does not mean it's right. Think twice before you post something like this or you could get a lot more unpolite comments than this.
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Different opinions. People are allowed to voice them on any subject including religion, just as much as you're allowed to voice yours.
Just because they're voicing their disagreement on God, doesn't mean they're not allowed to post something like this.
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I understand what your saying but just because you Google it does not mean the "facts" are true.
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Good point. But just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion, doesn't mean their opinion is wrong. c:
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