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Description This is a photograph uploaded byΒ wolife.tumblr.com/ in which he quotes:
'This US M4 Sherman Tank was stranded on the reef during the invasion of the island of Saipan during WWII. Its turret is still frozen in time, taking aim at a Japanese gun emplacement on the beach.'
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BeardyJosh In reply to ??? [2015-08-02 09:08:26 +0000 UTC]

I know, it's a shame

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Turbofurby [2015-05-30 18:05:48 +0000 UTC]

Wouldn't that suck, you're in the middle of driving to shore and about to take aim at a gun emplacement when suddenly your Sherman starts to flood with water.

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nicholasweed In reply to Turbofurby [2019-09-25 23:20:53 +0000 UTC]

On D-Day, 6/6/44, some Amphibious Forces troops went ashore in Normandy before the first wave.Β  They had orders to blow up some tank traps, to help out some Aqua Tanks that would drive in like an Aqua Car to the beach.Β  The first wave of troops landed too soon, and started taking cover from German machine gun fire at the tank traps.Β  The Amphibious Forces troops of "Geeter's Skeeters" told the men to get the Hell out of there because they had to blow the tank traps.Β  The men didn't leave, and got blown up with the tank traps.Β  Friendly fire, with demolition packs.Β  But, all the Aqua Tanks sank coming ashore on D-Day.Β  Non of the tanks made it ashore, and are still there under the water of the English Channel.Β  The troops that got killed taking cover at the tank tracks died for nothing.Β  Sometimes that is how War goes.Β  Just Fucked Upped Shit.Β  "F.U.B.A.R.", "S.N.A.F.U."Β 

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colliewolf2010 In reply to Turbofurby [2017-05-05 17:23:05 +0000 UTC]

or the engine stalls as your just about to get ashore.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 18:20:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, especially when that likely costed many soldiers their lives. Things like this probably happened quite often when storming beaches though.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 18:24:20 +0000 UTC]

Not quite often, but often enough to be noticed.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 18:29:21 +0000 UTC]

Good job the US had some inflatable ones to distract the Germans haha
media.moddb.com/cache/images/g…

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 18:46:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh god don't get me started on Patton's Ghost Army. Though I do think that the DD Sherman was a very successful model:Β upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 18:49:12 +0000 UTC]

Got to admit it wasn't a bad idea haha. Yeah, that was a cool design!Β 

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maiprafkprafu In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 00:51:47 +0000 UTC]

it was a poor decision after all because of rough seas.the idiots tested them only in clear conditions or lakes not taking into account the waves. They barely made it on the beaches.That's how the boys on omaha and utah beaches stayed stranded without support.

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BeardyJosh In reply to maiprafkprafu [2015-05-31 09:24:00 +0000 UTC]

That was a very poor judgement call. I have no idea how they wouldn't have thought about testing them in different conditions?
Well at least when they actually got into France they were useful distractions. Aside from when a an armoured division rolled past right where they were distracting the Germans!

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 19:01:35 +0000 UTC]

But personally I think my favorite model Sherman are the M4A3 models, but mainly the E8 version because, well, Fury.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 19:09:03 +0000 UTC]

Don't forget the Firefly and the Jumbo. The Sherman Jumbo was a beast!

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 19:13:54 +0000 UTC]

The only thing I really noticed about the Firefly is that the Firefly has a 76.2mm gun while the Easy Eight and the Jumbo had normal 76mm rounds. I think the difference is that the British 76 just has a better punch, but the problem is that they were built into the A1 model Shermans, which weren't much different from the original models.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 19:30:23 +0000 UTC]

I think the other thing was the length of the barrel making the firefly more accurate at longer ranges and a greater muzzle velocity. But yeah, they should have built the Firefly on the later Sherman models.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 19:35:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, The firefly did have a longer barrel but it was like I said, being based on the A1 model, they weren't exactly the best for full frontal assaults, especially in 1944 and 1945 where most surviving German tanks were Tigers and Panthers and the occasional King Tiger.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 19:39:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, the A1 sucked at that stage of the war! Although, the later Sherman tanks would still rarely bounce shells from late German tanks anyway, aside from the Jumbo. I think the Firefly was simply meant to run around the slow German tanks, shoot, and run off again haha

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 19:41:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah the Firefly was the medium equivalent of a tank destroyer as the Jumbo was the medium equivalent of a heavy tank.

Speaking of which:

My two Shermans in World of Tanks are Ripper:Β worldoftanksxbox360edition.com… and Fury:Β respawn.ninja/wp-content/uploa…

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 19:47:30 +0000 UTC]

The twins!
Almost got the Firefly and I have kept the Jumbo. So glad they are both in HD now!

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 19:50:26 +0000 UTC]

I'm still waiting for the Firefly to come to the Xbox 360 version(that's the one I play on) and technically Ripper and Fury aren't twins, Ripper is an A2 Sherman like the one in this picture you posted, and Fury is the A3.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 19:55:58 +0000 UTC]

I remember play the 360 version at a friend's house and got 12 kills because everyone was so bad haha.
I know but they're the 2 best Shermans.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 20:08:50 +0000 UTC]

I remember in one game as Ripper I was playing Mountain Pass(which is the map the picture of Ripper is on, it's snow covered instead of green like PC) and I was crossing the bridge in the middle of the map:Β worldoftanksxbox360edition.com… and this random guy on my team pushed me off the bridge and I was about to curse him out, but then I realized; he pushed me off the bridge and I lasted right behind an enemy SU-85, he deliberately chose to risk me cursing him out for me to get an easy kill. I didn't get many kills that game, only three kills, but it was encounter, we had that center flag, and I was more focused on defending it then hunting down the enemy tanks.

Have you ever heard of the M4A4 Sherman?

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 20:20:16 +0000 UTC]

Ah yeah, I know the map. Some strange things happen on that game haha.Β 
Did someone steal your kill?
I don't think I have. Thought they stopped at A3.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 20:23:55 +0000 UTC]

Nah the SU-85 I was dropped behind on I got, I was just focused on defense.

The A4 is essentially an A3 built specifically as lend-lease to Russia but I think it was made so it could easily be adapted so it could use Russian 76mm guns instead of the American 76mm gun.

Here's my stats:Β worldoftanksxbox360edition.com… 51.4% win ratio, 60% accuracy, and if you look at my tanks, you'll see I have a thing for collecting rare tanks like KV-5, KV-220, Pz.38H, Panzer V/IV, etc.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 20:29:07 +0000 UTC]

That sounds interesting. So the turret must have been modified to be able to fit different 76mm?

Pretty decent stats! I don't understand why there isn't a personal rating on xbox edition.
This is what the PC version is likeΒ worldoftanks.eu/community/acco…

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 20:46:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it'd be like the Firefly and the A1 Sherman, the british noticed their 17-pdr gun could fit inside the A1's turret, only that they'd have to tilt it sideways but they got it to work.

Well the thing is that PC is at 9.8, 360 just got to 1.10, with the Chinese coming soon. I'm sure it may soon appear as well as the PC version.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 20:53:33 +0000 UTC]

That's really cool. Like when the Germans captured Russian tanks and put some of their superior guns in them.Β 
I did my research on the Firefly. It pretty much sums up British engineering - simple but effective haha

I know but it just seems like a core part of player stats by giving an overall value of how good each player is. Ah well, surely they'll add it soon.
A lot of the Chinese tech tree is the same as the Russian tree because the have a lot of their tanks or variants of the same tanks.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 21:12:26 +0000 UTC]

Speaking of which, behold the T-34-88:Β i.ytimg.com/vi/o2tYpoRi4z0/max… It's simply put a T-34-85 but with a Tiger's 88mm cannon. It's an Xbox exclusive and even though it's classified as a Russian tank, it can take both Russian and German crew members.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-30 21:23:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that's what I'm talking about! What a beauty!
Wow that sucks, I really want one!

That is like an overpowered premium being able to use to crew nationalities haha

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-30 23:59:59 +0000 UTC]

We have several Xbox exclusive stuff, two tanks, and a map all to ourselves

It's not exactly OP either, it's just like the T-34-85 stats wise only that the 88 is slightly inferior to the 85.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 09:28:07 +0000 UTC]

Well I suppose that's fair considering the amount of tanks that will never be added on console since they stopped being sold on PC.
One funny tank was the Pz. II. J which was a tier 3 tank with more frontal hull armour than a KV-1! Haha
wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:PzI…

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 16:15:09 +0000 UTC]

Nope the Pz. II J is in World of Tanks as well. The way you get it is if you start up the game on a free trial card it'll say "get the real experience(aka not use a free trial card) and get a free rare premium tank, that's the Pz. II J

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 17:27:37 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm, that's odd. Well I highly doubt most of these are inΒ www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeMx09…

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 18:14:21 +0000 UTC]

The Grobtraktor isn't in the game, neither is the SU-100Y, MTLS-1G14, LTP,Β 

Ones that are in:

Panzer IV Hydrostat

Tetrarch

T23

M6A2E1 "Mutant Six"

Both versions of the M4A2E4 Sherman

Pz. II J

Pz. 38H

Pz. B2

Pz. IV Schmaltrum

But those are just premiums, there are some portions of countries tech trees that 360 doesn't have yet, just a few updates ago we finally got the Maus line, before it was just the E-100. Last update I believe was the line with the A-43.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 18:32:53 +0000 UTC]

Wargaming have been busier than I thought. No wander it took so long for them to release the recent updates for PC.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 18:38:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah they're busy trying to catch us up. But we also have weather variants of maps. We have snow and storm variants of Himmelsdorf, snow and storm Mountain Pass, War, and Storm variants of Ensk, and plenty others.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 18:44:24 +0000 UTC]

That sounds quite close to what we have. Do you have artillery strikes or planes dog fighting at the countdown to the start?

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 18:47:48 +0000 UTC]

Well on some maps we have plans flying nearby or bombers flying overhead while being shot at by flak, but it's not from countdown to start, it's over the course of the entire game from beginning to end.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 18:52:45 +0000 UTC]

Well with the planes it's from beginning to end. Just not with the artillery.Β 
I think it would be great if they added cross-platform multiplayer between Xbox One and PC.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 18:54:43 +0000 UTC]

Ah okay. We don't have artillery though

So far we only know that it will only be Xbox One and Xbox 360 working together.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 19:07:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh right. Well I guess it would be tough for console players to face PC players.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 19:15:39 +0000 UTC]

We only have like half the maps available on PC. So not really

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 19:20:14 +0000 UTC]

Wouldn't that mean it would be tough then?

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 19:21:30 +0000 UTC]

Yes it would. Plus there's people on the PC who have the auto aim mod where their shot never misses.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 19:36:40 +0000 UTC]

I actually haven't heard of an aim bot as effective as that until now. It seems extremely rare because it took a few minutes to find a video of it.
If players have mods like this they get banned pretty quickly if players report it though. I've only ever seen really terrible bots where the tank just sits there in spawn and aims at whichever enemy tank is spotted and attempts to shoot it. These are amusingly terrible.Β 

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 19:43:12 +0000 UTC]

Yep that mod is where the tank will follow any nearby ally and once sight is lost it will just sit there and stop, lock onto the nearest enemy, and fire.

The mod is also from World of Warships because hackers saw it in the game's coding and turned it into a mod.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 19:51:00 +0000 UTC]

Those mods are really easy to spot. Plus they are useless against decent players.Β 
But that aim bot mod is mostly used on Russian servers, of course haha. I have never seen it when playing anyway.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 19:54:33 +0000 UTC]

Jingles said himself that he's seen it plenty of times on European servers.

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BeardyJosh In reply to Turbofurby [2015-05-31 20:14:56 +0000 UTC]

I'll have to look through his channel. I guess it's quite hard to notice, especially since it's not a very fast paced game.

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Turbofurby In reply to BeardyJosh [2015-05-31 20:46:39 +0000 UTC]

All the mod really does is show where to aim on World of Warships, you can still miss, but it just shows a circle in front of the target of where you'd want to aim at so it's 90% guaranteed to hit.

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