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Published: 2017-02-09 08:28:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 1257; Favourites: 84; Downloads: 11
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I think you could see some news, broadcasts, shows, movies, games, books, where they speak about Ukraine or Ukrainian only horrible things. This propaganda trick is called "demonization". I just created its visualization.Related content
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The thing is that most of them are true if you start questioning even the main subjects like Russian, War, Oligarchs in the Ukraine media. You will find Disinformation or half-truths on all sites who report about it, thats nothing new when countrys has their own interrest.
But I only saw Ukraine Nazi Battalions/ Ukraine Army committing war crimes like plunder, bombing and killing civilians, spreading propaganda, ignoring Minsk Agreements and so on. If you like I can send you some stuff to read. Dont worry, its not from Pro-Russians or Pro-Rebels sites. Most of them videos anyway.
In my fiew, this picture shows the ukraine state in 2015 with the mix of the ukraine oligarchy and nazi maidan who destroyed his country and still manage to look cool, even hot when I can say that.
I like the draw, its really awesome. Reminds me somehow of Lucy of Elfen Lied with Moka Akashiya from Rosario+Vampire.
You may say that that when people say things which are different from your fiew are just "demonization" but dont forget that people belived that Iraq had Mass destruction weapons and even to his day, even after the person who all started it, said it was all lies, people still search for this weapons...14 years.
And you know why ? Because their pride forbid them to accept the truth. And this goes for you too. I dont make here a hate speech. But the Ukraine media is in a full propaganda storm about anthing which contradicts from his fiew, no matter how small it is. And its not only about his war with his own people in the east.
I agree with Kiborg-Graph .
"it is necessary to challenge views and information". Thats fit it.
But did you read "Banality of Evil" from Hannah Arendt ?
It kinda odd to see some similarities not only in ukraine, but in all radical groups.
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As a main Nazi of Europe I'm upset, that I forgot to add a swastika. =\ Fatal error!
I understood your position, it is your. This picture is also for you.
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Well yeah, these symbols would fit the regime coup of the country in the yeah 2014. A horde of rampaging ukranian nazis would make it even more awesome.
I like this one:
www.globalresearch.ca/wp-conte…
or this:
www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=ht…
This one would make it better:
thekievtimes.ua/wp-content/upl…
But ofcourse its up to you how you can do that.
You know, if you make them like a bunch of angry mob ( unorganized, hectic, rowdy) or make them something evil like dead man, zombies.
Since she looking at the viewer, how about giving her a nasty smile which could make it even more bad ass and on the botton ground it shows blood of the eastern ukranian people ?
Ah, and ofcourse lets not forget obama which simles nasty as her to represent how in charge is (was).
Since you say your pircture is for me, could I edit it ? I like it, I really like it. I just has some really good ideas about it. Im just not as good as you thats why I come with some suggestions.
Btw, did you read the book ?
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No, I didn't read. I even didn't hear about it before.
When I said it's for you, I meant that it's what you're talking about.
Anyway, it's free for downloading, so everyone can get it (I don't want to add a watermark). But your changes won't change my views.
...I already have 3 fan-arts of it (the first I received when it was just a sketch), but you're one who asks permission
Luceus, is it you again?
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Luceus ? Is this some one who I need to know ?
I know what you meant by "its for me", I just wanted to annoy a bit, but only a bit. Like a little kawai gril
You know, like in all countrys media dont tell always the truth. And this has nothing to do with fake media. Fake media exists since the humanity exists. But listen to these ukranian troops and ask yourself if its not a paradox for you.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipXZe…
This one is a bid old (2014) but reminds me of the yugoslav war. Like the ukraine goverment denies it so did it the yugoslav but after the war more information comes through and it was confirmed.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpjAbV…
Why I talked about the book and why I recommend it for you because there are similarities between what the happends in the ukraine ( Like you with this argument ) and the germans in ww2.
First a little history lesson:
Adolf Eichmann was probably the most desk murder in human history. A SS colonel in the Gestapo.
He organized and facilitated the confiscation of jews property and deportations of jews in germany, austria and czechia.
Later he was put in charge by Himmler and Heidrich after the Wannsee Conference to organized and facilitate the final solution and the murder of millions throughout europe.
In short, he was the man behind the logistic stuff for the holocaust.
After the end of WW2 he was the most wanted man in the world but couldnt be found. He was sentenced to death in absentia at the Nürnberg trials but unknow to the judges.
Eichmann had fled to argentina from Switzerland and Italy with a help of Catholic bishop who had nazi sympathies.
Remaining a fugitive and one of the most men of the world he was eventually located and captured in argentina by the israeli mossad who returned him to Israel where was trialed facing charges of crimes against humanity, found guilty, sentenced to death and hanged.
This is where the interesting stuff starts:
Observing the trial in Jerusalem was the political scientist Hannah Arendt who herself had to flee germany to the United States from people like him.
After observing the trial she wrote a report of Eichmann.
She wrote about how Eichmann was pretty much a normal human besides the fact that he had served as a Gestapo colonel within the SS, as a chief organisator of logistics.
He was not overly anti-semetic and was not even breaking the law of the country he was in when he was following his orders.
Through the decision of becoming part of this movement and follow orders, he became part of a bigger machinery of the Nazi system and there such within this system he didnt need the ability to think for himself.
Through this, he saw nothing more then a gear within a bigger machine.
A place it wasnt required for him to think as an individual about the consequences of his actions because he was a part what he saw is bigger then him.
This according to Hannah Arendt showed itself by the language he used.
Bureaucratic phrases amd terms and used to describe the horrible things he facilitated. Where trying to hide his responsibility and guilt behind the size of the murder machine that he was part of.
He had essentially given his consciousness and individuel moral reasoning and thought process to the authorities above him.
Hannah Arendt compared his hiding of guilt and responsibility behind the nazi machine with the biblical story of Pontius Pilatus, washing his hands in water.
And within this system evil became a banality. Doing these horrible things to other human beings just became another fact of life for the various people involved within the nazi regime.
Evil was not a monster within obviously horrid appearance like in a horror movie. It became a mere, almost boring part of daily life within the Nazi system.
Something what they saw simply as a job.
Same what we can see in the Ukraine crisis.
Thats why other people dont have the same position as the goverment wants it. Not because they want it to demonisat it, but becasue they see horribl stuff happend out there.
If you wish, I can send you some.
But it 18+
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Yes, it’s you)
Sorry, my sense of humor is bad, so sometimes I don’t understand jokes.
Thanks for the short excerpt of the book you talked about before.
So you think there needs to be some symbols of Pontius Pilate added, is that so?
Anyway:
If people have other views, then they just have other views. Those who don’t wish to demonize won't.
You gave me the links to two videos. In the first, the deputy of the Union "Self Reliance" criticises the president's faults (corruption, inactivity and so on). Actually, this is why "Euromaidan" (Revolution of Dignity) happened. The people protested against corruption, inactivity and so on. On the very next day after the expulsion of the previous president Yanukovych, Russian forces were found in Ukrainian territory. The government remained the same, all except the President, but the people couldn’t finish their Revolution. Now they must protect their land against foreign enemies. The government said: “Be peaceful, brothers. Don’t hurt the Russian army and they will go”. But they didn’t go. In fact, they appeared in the Donetsk and Lugansk provinces. The government said: "There you can protect your land” and the people did just that.
The second video is about the complaints of one deserter, namely, that there were no military resources, nor any food. So, you can see nobody expected this war. Moreover, everyone thought that the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances would protect Ukraine. But the Ukrainian government didn’t formally declare it war nor did they ask for protection, so the document in this case could not be implemented. The Ukrainian army was in a terrible condition. Soldiers and volunteer-soldiers asked other volunteers for various kinds materials and resources. Well, the government did at least give something: some weapons and uniforms. But in 2014, the Ukrainian army didn't even have enough ammunition. The soldiers said that they found homeless and drunk people from that area, dressed them in the uniforms of separatists and put sacks on their heads. Then they brought them in disguise as captive enemies to the separatists in exchange for ammunition. By the time the separatists figured it out, the Ukrainians and the ammunition was long gone. By the way, the Kozaks didn’t make their weapons, they took them from the dead enemies. Now they are being better provided with necessities. Volunteers have already given expensive equipment such as thermal cameras, remote-piloted vehicles, automobiles, and body armour, and now the soldiers only ask for things that they always need (batteries, socks). As far as the food is concerned, soldiers say that they have more than they need and, really, soldiers I know return bigger and heavier. But there is still a war going on.
I wish to remind you: Nazis, as you said, aren’t people that protect their land, Nazis are those who attack it.
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No, the thing with Pontius Pilate is how I look at the ukraine crisis and how they claim that all these war crimes they did was for the greater good ( Fighting against russian troops) however, still after 3 years we dont find one singel proof of russian troops in east ukraine.
And now ask yourself who is Demonization who. That people has other views is nothing new, but white washing crimes is something different.
The first video was after the maidan revolution. He complained how he was betrayed from his goverment and this just after some months.
That Russian troops was always located in crimea, more specific in Sewastopol people suddenly forget somehow fast. The "Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet" should make it.
If Russia invaded, then the whole world wouldnt hesitate to attack russia, not to mention how war hungry the NATO was just in 20 years.
Im not denying that Russia dont help the rebels with weapons and ammunition. And of course people join them from all over the globe for many different reasons. This same goes for the Ukranian troops, volunteer battalions and mercenary.
I mean look how the Ukranian Goverment act. As a german I see the same Behavioral patterns like we had here in the 3th Reich.
You said that nazis are these people who protect their land ?
Then you should look how the WW2 started and see the similaritys in the situation with the ukraine people. ( We attacked poland and other countrys like Soviet Union, not the way arround.)
But at last I agree with you, those who attacked the goverment, no mater how bad it was, were nazis:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRRr0O…
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OK. Russian forces were in Crimea, but not only in Sevastopol and not only fleet. Moreover, they killed Ukrainian soldier. You may think, that this is not mean the begin of war, but it is only your "other view".
In Media exist so many proofs of Russian soldiers in Ukrainian territory, that this is ridiculous. Maybe You wish to say this is not Russia, who occupied Crimea, it will be also your "other view".
I don't know what else I can tell you.
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The problem with media is that they like to lie. Russian, German, French especially the Ukranian one. If there exists so much proof of russian troops in eastern ukraine, why we dont saw any til today ? I mean this jokes goes so terrible wrong that even we here in german say that these russians must be invisible.
Thats why I dont trust any of them but trust the people who record what they see, from both sites. Ukranians and Rebels ones. Like other people do that too. Thats why people got a different view of the Ukraine Goverment and their army as they would like to.
Like this for a example:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5og1qh…
After 3 years after the coup in 2014 people realise that they been betrayed and used against their interest...not like other countrys like russia warned or thats why the rebels refused to join this movent since it was started.
I guess you wont see this in the ukraine media for a good reason. And thats why I said you are wrong with this statement of "demonization of ukraine"... even it looks awesome.
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I don't know why you didn't see them. If you just do a search for "Russian troops in Ukraine", you need to filter out lots of information. You need just to close your eyes and ears. So, I think, you have to be joking
You're more interested in the Russian army, than in Russian weapons, because you admited that their weapons are in Ukraine. What would you say, if you heard, not from a Ukrainian or other source, but from a Russian one, that the Russian army was and is in Ukraine? Will you then change your views, if you hear, that Putin himself confirms this? Or would it be better to see a list of those Russian soldiers, who now wear the name "gruz 200", because they died in the war in Ukraine? There even exists a Russian propaganda documentary, where they talk about how with the help of Russian forces Crimea was occupied.
I would like to make it possible for those wishing to find this info by themselves (it is not hard), or for those who think they have spent too little time on this subect to be able to discuss the war in Ukraine.
P.s.: you have a mistake in your message. You wrote "we here in german", but if you live in Germany, you should say "I here in Germany". I know what the official German position on this question is. v1.std3.ru/fc/b3/1395936237-fc… You forgot that this is just your personal view.
(Or do you wish to say, that they are oppressed and did not vote like they wanted?).
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As a US citizen, I don't have a negative view of Ukraine at all. I'm rooting for you!
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thanks
I've tried to repeat this effect youtu.be/CnrjYYB76TM
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Don't believe the Ukrainian news. They are lying, blatantly lied to all.
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Then this painting is exactly for you.)
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looks great
It would mean a lot to me if you could check my gallery out too
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Thanks.))
I've answered in your profile.
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you're welcome
I've seen it - thank you very much for your visit, I'm p' new so this really means a lot to me
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YW
Welcome to the dA. Hope, you'll like this virtual place)
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The last time I heard some news about Ukraine, it was during the Crimea Crisis.
But as long as you still be yourself, and not what others says, Ukraine will stay a beautiful land.
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I try, thanks.
(and I think, you'll hear a new news soon)
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It's a good thing that in the glorious potatoland of Latvia, we have access to news sources about Ukraine from both sides, and we can compare them, so it is harder to demonize Ukraine in Latvia.
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Good news from Latvia. Thank you, it is nice to hear. Continue to carefully examine all information.
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The difference between how the information is presented on both sides, is extremely impressive. For example, about the recently-happened death of the pro-Russian separatist poster boy Givi - a very pro-Russian source says that "the hero of the DPR and commander of the batallion "Somali" colonel Mikhail Tolstikh, also known as Givi, died today at 06:12 in an act of terrorism. It is a continuation of the war of terror, which was started by the Kiev's government against the civilian population in Donbass." russian.rt.com/ussr/article/35… , while a somewhat more neutral Latvian source states that "Mikhail Tolstikh, also known by his battle pseudonym "Givi", and who is one of the pro-Kremlin fighter commanders in Donbass, was killed on Wednesday morning in an explosion." www.delfi.lv/news/arzemes/noga… (I translated from Latvian). So, we have "hero" and "colonel" on one side, and "pro-Kremlin fighter" on the other side. If you put the two together, you get "a self-proclaimed high-ranking pro-Kremlin separatist fighter with considerable combat experience, who died in the ongoing war in Donbass". The more different sources, the more details can be known, and hopefully, something slightly more similar to truth will come out of such analysis.
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Well conclusion, I have nothing to say.
But there still a need to verify information.
What do I mean? For example: there are two fellows, one has good eyesight, the other is short-sighted. The first says to you, that a few moment ago, he saw 3 eagles in the sky. The second says, that he didn't see anything. If you have no time or desire to check for yourself, or to check their eyesight, but think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of theirs statements, you'll reply: "Let's just say that there was at least one eagle"
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Anyways, it is necessary to challenge views and information. As Writer in Tarkovsky's "Stalker" has said: "В спорах рождается истина, будь она проклята." The truth isn't always pretty, but it is what it is: truth, and one can only get to truth (or something more similar to truth) by asking questions, doing research and keeping an open mind.
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Well. now you come to the fundamental rules of living. People say that "the Earth lives by true"("Земля живет правдой").
I'm totally agree with you
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