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I havn't really created a charcter that i liked untill I drew her, this pic is just a conception for her, but the outcome was acceptable. I drew this on comptuer paper so I don't like the proportions and space of the picture. Also the face is distorted in this pic, because I was trying to draw from a diffrent POV. Ohh, the things on her waist are kamas, I like kamas despite peopels love in swords.Related content
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Skinshifter [2005-02-17 14:56:23 +0000 UTC]
And one thing I forgot: her crotch seems to be really high...and kinda funny lookin'. It seems very...triangular instead of very square. It seems like you wanted to give her pants that weren't quite so tight as her undies and changed your mind. It looks like her legs go straight into her ass instead of the front of her body.
Sorry about the bitching. Without looking to critique (other than the face) this is one of the best I've seen. I know I sure as shit wouldn't be able to render it. Very very good work.
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bladeboy In reply to Skinshifter [2005-02-18 00:23:28 +0000 UTC]
I'll reply to this and the other coment, it woudln't amke much sence to reply to them seperatly. Hmm, the outfit was a gothic approach. Yet the panties are doubled, the ones on the bottom accually were part of the nitting, with was supposed to look like web. it's completly random, much of my outfit's are, i figured it looked cool so I had to put it on. I'm not sure what I was thinking witht he spider netting, it was conceptual so throwing shit on there and trying to creat another ou fit was the main point. I accually redrew her and colored it, it's on the site also. I kept the bells, though that it kept a bit of femininity to the picture. the crotch accually look like that because it's pushed back, like she on her knees and over exaderating a straight back. So her pervis look like it could be at a wierd angel, i might try a nude book, but the poses I draw are from the head, so it's hard to reference them like that. from the waist up is just awful, I relized this when I drew it but coulndn't really fix it with the knowledge I had. perhaps I could redraw her, but I don't really like her that much. Also I'll agree with you on the shoes, it would be hard to be verry quick in these, and Kamas are close range unless she trew them. then she would be uterly scrweed in a fight with several enemies. I appreaciate the critique alot, picking out my flaws just makes me a better artist, and I'll take them witha grain of salt. I'm not perfect and realize it so depend on others insight to becomre better.
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Skinshifter In reply to bladeboy [2005-02-18 12:53:24 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I agree with you on the critiqing. It helps us develop, that's why I said anything. I like this chick. I like the idea for her and the spiderweb thing really kicked ass other than the fact that it was alone and random.
I really like the pose. You should try it out on another figure. It was pretty awesome. You did an excellent job on it.
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Skinshifter [2005-02-17 14:53:25 +0000 UTC]
This is really well done. The body is good, the proportions of everything look great, but her neck looks tiny.
Anyway, her legs are wonderful, though I am slightly confused about the random spiderweb on her ...panty hose(?). Her torso is great, but the shirt-thing she's wearing is cock-eyed bad. it seems to be pulling to her left, so that her left boob is about to pop out. The POV on her arms is great, I didn't notice anything wrong with the hands...yeah, the bells on her head are somewhat goofy...her waist is great, her calves wonderful. Her hips look wonderful, perfectly rendered, but I have a question: with her...undies - uh, is she wearing two pairs of panties? I mean...she has the really tiny pair and then lines going up from her hose that LOOK like panties...and then you can see her ass cheeks. This to me means that not only is she wearing two pairs of undies, but two thongs at that. Man, that would suck. Bad.
I don't like the heels. At all. If she's going to use kamas, she's going to have to rely soley on her agility to stay alive...you can't even walk in heels. she'll be dead quick-fast.
Ugh, anyway, I like this. For a random pose of a created figure, I like.
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chalyss [2004-08-27 18:05:11 +0000 UTC]
*SIGHS* That was a jerky way to put things. I hope mister "Pained by her face" there is a real good friend of yours.
Anyway. The angles and foreshortening you chose to employ in this particular piece are not easy ones... never were, never will be. I've been drawing longer than you've been alive and I STILL have problems with an up-angle to the face like that. Or a severe downshot. The dimensions change so much in the features. Then again, some people spit those things out perfectly from the word go. I hate those people. *hehs* Best thing in the case of the face is to use reference or look in a mirror. Magazines work well, having a friend or family member pose for it, or some books like Jack Hamm's or Byrne Hogarth. This one really isn't that far off, it just needs a bit of tweaking. I've seen far worse. One thing I did for a long time was to mistakenly draw the chin line as you have it up there when it didn't need to be like that. That particular jawline is for an extreme up angle, not a soft one like this. I did it for simply ages until someone pointed it out to me. Raise her nose a bit and she should be fine. Remember that we are looking up into her nose.
For the arm, definitely look in the mirror while posing and sketch what you see... or again, use a friend or family member. It's not that bad, really... its just the positioning of the hand itself that's throwing it off a bit. A little more meat at the elbow -just before it- to show the swell of the lower arm would really help.
VERY NICE foreshortening on her legs!! Especially her left one (our right)!! Simply outstanding! and great boots too! Still can't get over that netting... especially that web there! Wow. From the waist down, she's incredibly well drawn. It's just the upper part that needs some additional tweaking here and there. Oh, and for the breasts, don't forget they are very... um... infirm. What I mean to say is that they are soft and pliable, therefore the one attached to the raised arm will be raised higher and spread slightly flatter than the one that is not raised.
I'm not a huge fan of bells, but that's a personal preference. And she could have always taken out the BALL that makes them NOISY. *tiny glares at above* They're well drawn, however.
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bladeboy In reply to chalyss [2004-08-29 04:28:00 +0000 UTC]
Yes the last commenter was a good friend of mine. I think he was a little steamed that I didn't give him a two thumbs up on his "hack job zombie charcter" XP! But yes I've jsut started to imply that pose in my drawings. For the phrase "practice makes perfect" is a must in this situation. Thanks for the comment on the netting. I wish to draw it a bit more detailed but Iw as already in a lazy mood from my programming class, and apathy jsut gets the better of my sometimes. I might try the mirror idea, I have Dynamic FIgure Drawing By Burn Horgath i use as a refrence, but the examples and descriptions are a little vauge. (in my opinion). When I draw a face from his reference I always end up with "blocky" checks and a nose that would make a toucan jealous. Also my words exactly on the bells, I just thought thay added a bit more femdom to the pic. blood, guts, and bubbles. To wrap this reply up I give giant amounts of appreciation to the time spent in the critique. I rarely get time to comment on any one else's work, and when I do, it almost seems in vain sometimes. I don't comment where help isn't needed. ^.^. Thanks again for the critique.
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chalyss In reply to bladeboy [2004-09-08 17:16:15 +0000 UTC]
Well, I wrote a response for this once and DA ate it in the read-only mode, so I've been working back up to writing it again. Here's a second time around:
Burne Hogarth IS a tad angular, I agree. He has wonderful things to teach, but I am not crazy about his style. I much prefer Jack Hamm. Check out his books. The one you want is a brown cover and it's about 8 bucks. He has a series of books out and I really like his stuff. It's simpler than Hogarth's and awesome for reference. Also try looking for some photoref books. I have three or four, can't remember the names now, but any Hastings or Borders or any book store should have some. Those are wonderful to have! They are made FOR artists who want real-life ref to draw off of.
You're very welcome for the critique! I am glad it was well-received. Thank you for that. Also, even if you don't think I need help (though I do), drop a line now and then so I know you're alive and well! take care!
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bladeboy In reply to chalyss [2004-09-10 05:52:56 +0000 UTC]
I'll drop by when I can....don't think I'll be dying any time soon XP. My thoughts the same on Horgath and I'll try to check out that other artist. Again, thanks for the view.
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ginsujustice [2004-08-19 14:04:55 +0000 UTC]
HOLY CRAP, MAN! Her face causes me pain! FIX IT, IMMEDIATELY! The eyes are too close, nose is too far down for the perspective I think youre intending, and her lips are at a completely different angle altogether. If youre going to make her head angled up, use the guideline for the eyes as a base. All other guides for the mouth and nose should have that same line, just parallel to it. I would also suggest working on her breasts. They look like rocks were shoved under her skin. I would suggest looking at news paper ads for bras as reference (or other references that you may find "laying around" >) The perspective on the hand holding the hilt of that thingy-thing-thing is nice. Her fingers look a little odd at the knuckles. Like they are broken. But who am I to talk since I uploaded that hack-job zombie warrior thing. I might suggest another thing too....lose the bells. If she's using those kama things, she would have to get in close to do real damage...you see where Im going with this? I didnt think so, so I'll spell it out for you " s-h-e'-d h-a-v-e t-o r-e-l-y o-n s-t-e-a-l-t-h" and bells wont really help in that department. The bat-wing tattoos are nice though and the leg portion of the picture isnt half bad. I dont really cate too much for the whole outfit though. That bat-wing looking colar is a little goofy looking in my opinion, and those spider web things? o.O'
Believe it or not, I drew a picture like this last week. Its of a dragon woman, holding a large sword behind her back, in almost the same position. She even has a tattoo on her chest. o.O Schpooky... Mine looks better though and swords rock so much harder!! Even in milk. :: nods:: Keep up the good work though. XD Youre following in my foot-steps just fine. (just kidding, except all the critique parts, so dont cry over this :: snickers:
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bladeboy In reply to ginsujustice [2004-08-19 22:31:58 +0000 UTC]
ok boss. *goes to pick some cotton*
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