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Description We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey teacher leave us kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave the kids alone
Hey teacher leave us kids alone
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

PINK FLOYD - "Another Brick In The Wall (Part II)"
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Comments: 67

brassshadow In reply to ??? [2007-02-10 20:30:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Violator3 [2005-12-04 19:35:02 +0000 UTC]

Wow!!

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brassshadow In reply to Violator3 [2005-12-05 09:03:42 +0000 UTC]

Thank you?

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Violator3 In reply to brassshadow [2005-12-05 09:29:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, yes

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brassshadow In reply to Violator3 [2005-12-05 15:13:19 +0000 UTC]

hehe, yeah I mean to say thank you without the '?'
I was very sleep deprived when I typed that

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Violator3 In reply to brassshadow [2005-12-05 15:18:15 +0000 UTC]

no problem

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chenderson [2005-10-11 19:03:10 +0000 UTC]

This is a very striking shot. I'm very impressed with it, and the sepia and song lyrics go with it perfectly. (I've voted for this one )
And the title... yes, indeed a processing factory.

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brassshadow In reply to chenderson [2005-10-11 20:46:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for your comments and also thank you for voting for it

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davekenobi [2005-06-24 22:16:19 +0000 UTC]

simply a great shot, and with the lyrics, great stuff.

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brassshadow In reply to davekenobi [2005-06-26 21:18:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much

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sundreaming [2005-06-23 20:09:12 +0000 UTC]

besides meaning etc... contrast, light, composition are great. it's a fav

ciao

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brassshadow In reply to sundreaming [2005-06-23 22:16:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much I really appreciate it

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stevenjo [2005-05-30 23:55:47 +0000 UTC]

Nice photo....i really like it!...goes to my fav!

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brassshadow In reply to stevenjo [2005-05-31 01:28:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for the comment aswell as the fav

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StarOfDavid [2005-05-22 09:59:53 +0000 UTC]

so nice.. so meaningful..

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brassshadow In reply to StarOfDavid [2005-05-22 14:18:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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hypophotogenic [2005-05-21 01:44:08 +0000 UTC]

That is really cool. The tones and lighting make for a great feeling.

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brassshadow In reply to hypophotogenic [2005-05-21 02:17:22 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for the compliment

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welder [2005-05-04 02:18:46 +0000 UTC]

I love it. That photo is a perfect fit to the song.

Processing indeed. That's how it works these days. They show you how you should be so you can go get your piece of paper that says you're smart so that you can go into the world and make money.

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brassshadow In reply to welder [2005-05-04 19:30:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much,
Glad you like it,

Yeah it is unfortunate how this system works these days,
There seems to be too much of a focus on cramming information and technical skills,
And not so much in the way of developing original thought and self-improvement especialy when it comes to the appreciation of others,
There needs to be more education about how to live in a diverse and ever changing world,
In U.S. univiersites there is rampant disrespect of others and in many cases downright hatred,
I've done some work to expose some of this on my campus and it can be downright scary,
My particular university was actualy ranked as on of the worst when it comes to intergroup relations out of about 400 universties.

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Gosia [2005-05-01 19:48:50 +0000 UTC]

I can definitely relate. Well executed concept...good tones & contrast as well.

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brassshadow In reply to Gosia [2005-05-01 20:00:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much

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sexybandgeek126 [2005-04-14 03:40:32 +0000 UTC]

pink floyd is easily one of the best bands ever, wish you were here is one of the most underrated albums of all time, and the wall is one of the best movies ever conceived by man-kind. o yea, and this picture is totally amazing...what about is amazing? i'm not sure, but there something that i just absolutely adore about it.

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brassshadow In reply to sexybandgeek126 [2005-04-14 04:17:50 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much
Yeah Pink Floyd is great,
The scene from the The Wall with the school symbolized by meat processing plant was my main inspiration for this piece.

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sexybandgeek126 In reply to brassshadow [2005-04-15 02:32:48 +0000 UTC]

awesome. for halloween i was going to make one of those masks and dress in english school clothes and have "a little black book to put my poems in"...and maybe "a bag with a toothbrush and a comb in"

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brassshadow In reply to sexybandgeek126 [2005-04-15 06:23:50 +0000 UTC]

that sounds like a cool costume

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sexybandgeek126 In reply to brassshadow [2005-04-16 04:11:32 +0000 UTC]

thank you! instead though i dawned (yea wrong spelling) on an orange jumpsuit and put my High School's name on the back and had broken handcuffs and fake scars/blood all over my face and i told everyone i had escaped from detention.

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brassshadow In reply to sexybandgeek126 [2005-04-16 13:53:12 +0000 UTC]

hehe, nice

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rikausse [2005-03-24 14:54:49 +0000 UTC]

I love this shot !
Very nice how each table seems to be filthy. There is a mixed feeling here : between calmness and loneliness / negligence.
I see somekind of opinion on education in this photo and that's what deserves a

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brassshadow In reply to rikausse [2005-03-24 16:52:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for your detailed interpretation

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ahff [2005-03-14 18:25:04 +0000 UTC]

very nice shot w/ song - wow

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brassshadow In reply to ahff [2005-03-14 19:59:47 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much

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ahff In reply to brassshadow [2005-03-14 20:12:09 +0000 UTC]

BTW, the "comment rev" link in your signature doesn't work - there's a space in it.

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brassshadow In reply to ahff [2005-03-14 20:14:23 +0000 UTC]

thanx for pointing that out, I'll have to fix it.

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IslandJoe [2005-03-02 20:31:19 +0000 UTC]

the tones in this make the piece - along with the repetitive images of the desks and chairs, each set in their own little pool of light... with the odd student looking frustrated...

luvvit man!!!

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brassshadow In reply to IslandJoe [2005-03-02 20:33:52 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much

and welcome back

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IslandJoe In reply to brassshadow [2005-03-02 21:18:03 +0000 UTC]

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NSH [2005-02-21 14:28:56 +0000 UTC]

like everything else in this sick world
education is a business.
I think schools educate us away from reality at times...
never really teaching us to think for themselves.

i was average. below average in school. could never really grasp anything...started questioning my worth. but the system is just shit. i get thrown into the work world...and i absorb things so quickly and I am resourceful adn get things done...
methods of teaching here are terrible.
they dont kator for everyone. creative folk especially.
throughout school the only things I thought you could be:
doctor
lawyer
accountant

basically

anyhow this is a really impressive piece i must say
i love the tones and the light
and well of course the composition

very gloomy indeed

education is a sweatshop

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brassshadow In reply to NSH [2005-02-21 15:39:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for taking to time to comment on this
I'm glad that you like it
This was one of my first times really using the features of the GIMP editor.

I agree with you on education,
Here in the US the public schools here are not much better (if at all) than the education system you described,
There are some creative outlets here such as art classes, concert band, and drama club,
but in many places these programs are being cut because of funding issues.

Also the curriculums are very strictly structured by the state for the purposes of state exams,
This is a bad thing because it forces the teachers to teach for the tests an not necicarily to learn important long lasting info,
Also this structuring forces a euro centric and US centric view of history without allowing much time for anything else it would also leave out most of the bad things that the US and Europe has done,
Such curiculums are a breeding ground for ignorance of the rest of the world,
This in many ways sets people up for white supremacist ideas,
And self hate if one is not white or has a part of their heritage this is not,
I know that for the longest time I was imbarrased of the part of my heritage that is Native American,
This was becuase Native Americans (First Nation Peoples) where quite frequently portrayed as inferior savages,
Even if this was only subtly through images in outdated texts,
In reality they where very much equals to the Europeans,
And had advanced and varied cultures and systems,
It was the Europeans who had no respect for the First Nation Peoples,
In many of the cases I've heard about First Nations People's welcomed Europeans as equals in trade,
But in many cases the Europeans exploited this trust,
Twising things around to suit their own purposes,

Although fortunatly I was lucky enough to have history teachers that where able to squeeze in some of the important stuff that wasn't in the state curriculum,
These teachers where the exception to the rule,
They where able to squeeze in lessons about the genocide of First Nation Peoples on the American continent by the United States,
Aswell as alittle about the exploitation of countries and peoples through globalization,
There where other topics that they squeezed in aswell that where not on the curriculum,
Although by doing this we had to come in on the weekends to learn the stuff that the state wanted us to learn for the state exams.

One of the biggest problems that would happen with the tests was the tendancy for them to have serious errors,
Or be worded in such ways as to make very little sense,
As a result there have been many cases where a majority of the people who took an exam would wind up failing it even though they had good grades for the rest of the class,

One thing that is interesting is that the US public school system is ranked rather low in compairison to many other nations,
Many schools don't even have text books or just only have a class set,
And these books are usualy outdated,
I know that back when I was in high school the last thing that our US history books mentioned happend in the early 80s, the swearing in of Reagan as US president,
Kindof ironic really, since it was Reagan who implimented new policies that took money away from the public school systems here,
Although one of the things that really troubles me is that the year after I graduated my old High School got money to construct metal detectors at the entrance,
Which I saw a just being a reaction to over reactive paranoia,
They should have spent that money on books,
And other educational materials,
Since despite what people saw in the news there really wasn't any need for the detectors.
Such a prision.

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NSH In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-22 17:23:39 +0000 UTC]

yes well i think most definitely you have more outlets up there eh...
creative arts here in any form are just shirked. that is how it is..
but there are some slight efforts being made to change that...thankfully. we dont even have photography offered here. i think its important for kids to know painting and drawing are not the only mediums....
i wish i had the oppurtunity to expose children to that here...


as for native americans. i couldnt agree with you more. america has successfully brainwashed everyone into believing that they are savage. the bad guys...
but hte truth is. these european bastards invaded their land....infringed on their rights...
claimed it their own.
i think they are the savages.
but i mean times are different...people just need to move away from that sort of thinking get it right...understand the situation. shut to fuck up. stop the prejudices and try to find some sort of common ground.


yeah we have the same problem here with regard to books..
i mean honestly how difficult is it to channel money into those important aspects?
the money is spent on so much trivial random crap. completely unncessary just as a freeway for money laundering really...
god we see it happen so much here.

i mean i hate to sound like little ms have a riot...
but education should be at the top of all priortity right now
illiteracy is so rampant here...
and then all the so called intelligent ones...fall right through...leaving hte country because things are just so corrupt...they are too smart to stay around..

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brassshadow In reply to NSH [2005-02-22 21:23:53 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I agree with you fully, education should be the top priority,
Without true quality public education the future is rather bleak,
People have to realize that,
Unfortunatly all of the terrorist witch hunts and neo-imperialist wars are sapping the state economies,
Forcing the states to redirect even more money away from domestic programs like education,
Which where already getting the short end of the stick,

One thing that really ticks me off,
Is that they started charter schools a few years ago,
These schools are publicly funded from tax dollars just like public schools,
But you also have to pay additional money out of pocket if you want to send a child to one,
Or be one of the lucky students to get a voucher,
So rather than fix the problems with the public schools
they instead take money from the budget to pay for private schools that only benifit a few,
This could be seen as a furthering the segregate along class lines,
Increasing the imbalance of opportunities available,

It is crucial for the people who have gained important knowlege to spread it around,
Find ways to use this knowlege to give back to their communities,
Instead of just "running away" and only using their knowlege for personal gain,
There are alot of people that do that here too,
Once they get an education they move away,
They eather flee to the suburbes or to what ever city they have romantisized at the time,
Many people don't even try to use their education to help the very communities that watched them grow up,
Alot of people are driven away from my area because the taxes are high but we don't see much of a return on that as far as services,
Much of the revenue goes to down state to new your city instead of providing services to the communites that it came from,
Or to pet projects that usualy fail,
One project was 2-3million for a Catholic art museum in NYC started by a former playboy playmate,
Needless to say the local Catholic diosese want's nothing to do with it so it just sits there indefinitly closed,
Also the polititions seem to have no trouble voting for a raise for themselves,
But it has been many years since they passed a state budget on time,

I won't doubt that there may be more creative outlets here,
Although many of these programs are loosing their funding,
The teachers sometimes volunteer extra time to make sure that these programs are still running,
I don't think that we ever really had any sort of photography programs at my old high school though.

This is just an idea,
I don't know how the systems work in St. Vincent & Grenadines,
But if you have the spare time,
One thing that you could possibly look into trying to do,
Is see if you can help set up some sort of after school program to provide a creative outlet for photography,
You could go back to your old school and see if any teachers or faculty that you might know will help sponsor something like that,
Or another creative outlet,
Even if you don't have the time to personaly be involved in such a program,
You could still try and suggest it to any teachers or other people that you know who might be interested in supporting something like that,
Again this is just an idea,
This is based on what I know about the way things are run in my community,
I don't know how things are run where you are,
But hopefully this can atleast provide something useful,

Yeah I agree with you about the Europeans being savages in the way that they treat(ed) Native Americans,
There is still alot of hatred twards Native Americans today,
And even though according to treaties,
The US nation is suppose to recognice the reservations as sovern nations,
They don't,
The US rarely honored the treaties,
Infact now there are alot of land claims happening because the US government took land that by the laws of the treaties where suppose to be owned by the Native American nation that live on the reservations,
There are a couple of Native American nations around here that are going to court about this,
Infact one of the land claims actualy includes a good portion of the city that I live in,
Wich complicates things because the US government will try anything to avoid handing over a city,
Although I wouldn't have any complaints,
People have been promised that if the land claim goes through that those that live on the land right now will not have to move,
They will just be residents of the Onondaga Nation instead of the US.

Well I think that I have rambled on long enough,
Hope that I made sence,

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NSH In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-24 17:02:18 +0000 UTC]

yes its amazing what the focus becomes...
its so strange...
but that is how power works.
why would someone in power want to lessen their chances of high and mighty parading around by educating masses of people who would probablly be effective against them.
that is clearly what is happening.
power would naturally be addictive.


oh and a friend of mine here who is also an artist wanted us to get something started to teach kids.
expose them to art.
I really should sit down adn discuss it more with her.
it really would be a great thing to start.
and i would really enjoy interacting with younger ones.
i actually did some volunteer work once at the occupational therapy centre in the mental hospital here. really did enjoy it.
i am not teaching material! but i sincerely love it.

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brassshadow In reply to NSH [2005-02-25 01:50:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I know,
There seems to be this metality of,
Giving people only enough education to give the illussion of knowlege,
But in reality the systems seem to educate poeple just enough to be pawns in society,
But no where near truely intellectual thinkers,
Unless a person is lucky enough to have aleast someone in their life who encourages the person to go beyond the pawn mentality,
To become a true responsible thinker.

A responsible thinker must use their knowlege in an unselfish way to better their communites and society as a whole,
They must avoid the temptation to become corrupt,
Corruption is the easy path that ultimatly leads to the destruction of communities aswell as society as a whole,
It's just like with any element that has the possibility to cause addiction, (such as gluttony)
A strong sense of self restraint must be maintained to prevent this unhealthy, greedy craving,
Unfortunatly most politicians appear to be mentaly very weak when it comes to this,

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It is good that your friend wants to start something to teach the children art,
You should definitly get involved in this,
Such things can really make a difference in the children's lives,
And can stay with them for a life time,

That is really cool that you did volunteer work at the metal hospital, even better since you enjoyed it,
That is a great way to unselfishly give back to the community,
I need to find more time to do that in my community,

It is also good that you enjoy interacting with children,
Even though you say that you are not teaching material,
Being able to enjoying teaching, having a willingness to give unselfishly of one's self, and being creative are key qualities of being a good teacher,
So you seem to be more of a teacher than you give yourself credit for,

I really hope that you and your friend can get this going,
It sounds like a really good idea,
I'm interested to hear how that will develope,
Keep me posted on it's progress, if you would like,
I could learn a thing or two about how to do such activites in my own community,
I wish you and your friend the best of luck in creating that program.

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NSH In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-25 15:46:02 +0000 UTC]

ah thanks a lot hun it would be really great if we can get something running.
even if i cant get to be a part I should pitch the idea to some other artists in the community.

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brassshadow In reply to NSH [2005-02-25 17:17:43 +0000 UTC]

That's the spirit

Good luck with it nadia.

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NSH In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-25 17:28:30 +0000 UTC]

thanks hun

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h4ze [2005-02-21 04:58:21 +0000 UTC]

i dont have a lot of things to say but this piece is amazing. good job and for sure. cheers

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brassshadow In reply to h4ze [2005-02-21 05:58:33 +0000 UTC]

glad you like it
and thank you for the fav

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moab-software [2005-02-21 04:51:26 +0000 UTC]

Excellent lighting job. The composition is great.

Where was this taken?

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brassshadow In reply to moab-software [2005-02-21 05:57:21 +0000 UTC]

Thank you
Yeah this was taken on the Syracuse University campus in Carnagie hall, it's where the math department is.

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