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neo1128 In reply to ??? [2005-02-21 01:00:02 +0000 UTC]

very cool shot and angle...not to mention message

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brassshadow In reply to neo1128 [2005-02-21 02:58:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the kind words

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hbynoe In reply to ??? [2005-02-19 22:31:09 +0000 UTC]

great tones
and message
oh the systems are so jail like and corrupt
nicely done sean

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brassshadow In reply to hbynoe [2005-02-19 23:55:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for the comments and that

Yes I agree, the "education" institutions are corrupted by money,
It would seem that to them education is mearly just a commodity to be sold for a profit,
With little or no regard for the wellbeing of the students,
And only a superficial interest in social issues.

I've known too many people who where given the boot because their financial aid cut out, or for other financial reasons.
Many of these people had exceptional grades too.

You would think that a university that claims to be student centered would have better support measures surrounding this.

Also in atleast one case one of the people I know of, was doing a rather good job of publicly questioning the corruption of the institution and society before this person's financial aid was cut.

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hbynoe In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-20 00:25:25 +0000 UTC]

school is a joke
and throw money into it
it becomes this machine
into which you are going to spend the next twenty years
paying off debts
...debts that have no relevance to the life you may be leading
how many ways are they going to formulate to try and imprison us

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brassshadow In reply to hbynoe [2005-02-20 01:48:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes it is,
The fact that you have to be rich, or one of the lucky ones with a scholarship that lasts, just to get a piece of paper that allows you the posibility to get a rich job means that it is a regulator of classism in society.

Also the fact that there is so much debt to pay off after graduation means that you are kindof forced into taking a job because it pays well but not because you necicarily like it. This kindof prevents people from doing many jobs that utilize their skills to give back to their community because these kindof jobs usualy don't pay well enough to be able to do while also paying off debt.

This can be seen as a wall in the way of social change that could have to potential for breaking down some of the social inequalities of classism.

For example people who go to college for teaching may not be able to afford to work in a public school where they could possibly make a difference in the rifts of classism, unless they are willing to give up alot. The teaching positions in the school districts that need good quality teachers the most, usualy pay barely enough to live on, and this is without including the added costs of paying off college debts. They need good teachers that will teach the students how to be more than just pawns in society.

There are some exceptions to this, such as organizations that send in volunteers trainned to be teachers into these districts,
but this seems incomplete,
It seems more like a bandaide covering up an infected wound,
It doesn't necicarily get to the root of the problem,
Changes need to be made to the institutions and policies that cause such disparites,
Aswell as change in what is taught in these schools.

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hbynoe In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-20 02:38:47 +0000 UTC]

the world is flawed
every system has failed
in thier entireties but
out of necessity
we compromise
and settle for so much less
than we should

sad really....

i dont know much about uni
or college
other than all my friends are 80.000 in debt

and i am one of the few luckyones
who have nothing to pay ever to any institution
as my parents made provisions for
our...( my sister and I) education

for people who never went to school
they sure were smart

god bless them

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brassshadow In reply to hbynoe [2005-02-20 06:02:35 +0000 UTC]

nothing is perfect,
but that doesn\'t mean that we can\'t strive for it,
for something different,
with the possibly of being better than the methodes common today,
When looking at the social movements of the world,
Each one happened when people stopped settling with the status quo,
And worked twards something that was hoped to be better for them,
Although ideologies and methodes may be different for each,
And there have been varying levels of success and failure,
Each one started because the people starting it felt that they where getting the short end of the stick.

That was smart of your parents,
You and your sister are definitly very lucky.

My parents have to pay for a part of my education,
Although fortunatly financial aid covers around $28,000 of it annualy which is most of it,
A good portion of that aid is part of an agreement the university has with the local public city schools here,
Otherwise I probably wouldn\'t be able to go here.
Although unfortunatly not everyone who needs financial aid recieves it,
And what little federal aid the US government gives out is becomming less and less,
Thanx to policies that deceptivly appear to be pro education,
Quite a bit of Orwellian doublespeak going on,
It\'s scary how many people blindly buy into it.

\"War is love and love is war\"

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hbynoe In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-20 06:47:26 +0000 UTC]

war is peace...that is fine
i know it and i dont judge you on misquotes
i am quite at times
and my memmory is horrible...
it is sad that the system doesn\'t work to
integrate but separate
and yes i cant wait for the world to stand up
become aware and changes just start happening
i think ill be dead...that is the pessimism in me
i am generally very hopefull and optimistic
for i cant live being cynical...
i just hope it happens when i can see
and experience it...oh what a joy...


do you feel as though you are a slave?
general question

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brassshadow In reply to hbynoe [2005-02-20 09:03:43 +0000 UTC]

*Just to prewarn you this is a bit long, you might want to settle in and get comfortable

Yeah my memory is pritty bad at times,
I have a hard time remembering friends names sometimes,
Not to mention that I read that book way back in high school,

As far as the world standing up,
A global movement probably won\'t be a sudden thing like you might see in a movie,
In many cases social movements for large changes can take a very long lime,
And consist of many smaller movements,
They may take a lifetime or many generations,
Although they may speed up at times depending on the circumstances,
The key is to realize that when working twards change,
Not to become discouraged if change is slow to happen,
For me I use this as an incentive to do more,
Or re-evaluate tactics to see if there is anything that can be do differently,
Since movements can take a long time a good mentality might be to work for change so that things will be better for people in future generations,
Not to say that changes can\'t be see in our life times,
There are smaller changes happening all the time,
These small changes are what bigger changes are built of,

For me, I live by example,
being kind to people but speaking up when I see injustice,
I make it a habit to make diolouge with people who have different ideals about society,
When approaching such diolouge I make sure to give the same respect that I would hope for in return,
The hope is to get people to see things alittle differently,
But I also keep an open mind to understand individual perspectives.
Since people\'s individual struggles usualy relate to other people\'s struggles in one way or another,
The key is to get people to see this in a way that opens the door for coalitions,
This is one of the things that I have been working on the 3 years I have been here at the university.

As far as the part about feeling like a slave,
I\'m really not sure,
I am a product of society weather I like it our not,
I was brought up in it,
Through it\'s processes,
And engraned with it\'s social mentalites,
Although I work to counter these,
They will always be a part of me,
Weather I\'m working to counter them or participating in them,
Not to mention that much of US society that I live in is built on the exploitation of people within it\'s borders and people accross the rest of the globe,
Since I live within US society,
I am unfortunatly a participant of it,
I buy it\'s products and services to survive or to use for personal reasons,
And it taxes me for the \"privalege\" of carrying around pieces of paper that say I belong to it,
It is nearly impossible to distance myself from all of that because I have become dependent on much of it,
So in that respect I feel I am slave,

Although at the same time I activly work to change it,
And atleast try to reduce my participation in it\'s exploitation,

For example:
I actively try to recognize how I benifit from white privalge in this society so that I can work to make it publicly visible and to try and counter the ways that it benifits me,

Another example:
Apparently right now most computer science jobs are in weapons manufacturing, such as guidance systems and other war tech, and alot of computer science people also seem to get jobs with the CIA, NSA and other government intelligence agencies.

When I graduate even if those are the only jobs available at the moment I will never accept a job with any of those socialy destructive fields. For me everyone who knowingly participates in the makeing of a bomb or other weapon is just as responsible for the death and destruction as the person who uses it in war. Afterall that is what they intended it for. And I refuse to be a part of it.

I want to get a job where I can effect society in a positive constructive way rather than a destructive way as mentioned above.

One of the things that each of us can do to help with social change is to see how we can use the skills we gain and our individual talents, in ways that can help with the changes we want to see.
Artists can do work to inspire the people and make them aware of the situations around them. In addition to this, photographers and those that capture video, can be the eyes of the general population when incidents of injustice occure.

This has become an interesting conversation, I\'m interested to see what you think about this.
None of my ideas are carved in stone though, I\'m constantly revising my ideas as I learn new things.

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hbynoe In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-20 21:41:10 +0000 UTC]

change is slow but sure for me it is hard to sit back and wait
for something great to happen because
1. i know that it wont
2. i know that even though certain things may change
i inherently never end up getting what i started out for and i settle for less.

i think you have an incredible attitude with regards to perspective
and you ideas of change...rome wasn't built in a day and society has
been around since the dawn of man...and i know that critical changes that
have to happen will be dug out and underground...and that these things are process
with catalysts that need time to take its effects...

i guess that is why i am so impatient and why my fear of change is growing.
i have built ideas in my head of how i want to affect this world
and of how i wont let this world affect me...so many things are against my
journey though that they overwhelm me and cause me to just shut off
and loose some of that will..i guess i have to teach my body
to just press on regardless of the consequences...after all
what is the use of living if i dont try to better myself

Growing up i had an archaic idea of slavery...the typical black man is slave
but as my consciousness grew i begin to realise that from the minute you are
born till you die you are a slave to your body, to your surrounding and the system
you live in..

i dont have a gripe per say with my mortal weakness as a human being
loving someone or a lot of people and doing my best to compromise myself
to be the best person for them because i benefit and it is never a level of
compromise where i just end up hating myself

i am however angry...well disgusted by the fact that money is still the root of
all evil ...by the fact that eons have passed since man devised the barter system
and from them we have just moved one step with regards to finance and
how that whole system affects ones life...

i know it is very idealistic for me to think that man can
ever exist without wealth and riches..and that dichotomy that
separates rich from poor after all....we need poeple to do our
hard work...it is a sad fact tha we are no longer
satisfied by the simplities of life

Living in the US now for the past three years have opened my eyes to
a lot of injustice
in the criminal system, the welfare system and just the general monetary handlings
esp in suburban parts of NYC....

for example i am in a film workshop now one of my mates
plan to do something about the jail system and the rockerfeller laws how they
only enable the white man to perpetually place the black man in a system of control

i agree totally but one girl stood up and couldn't figure out why
this was relevant because she is upper middle/high class and
couldn't see that my mate came from the ghetto had to see her mother
being put in jail for 15 years becuase she stood up on the street to sell a bag of weed
cause no one would give her a job and she had to support three children...

i couldnt understand why her brain didn't wrap around the concept of
survival...but then it hit me she had never had a day where she wanted somethign and didn't get it...and i think that is one of the major reasons why more people aren't trying to help out those who are literally slaves in the system...they cant grasp the fact that every day people are being enslaved, they think that because someone does something unlawful that they should suffer the consequences of thier actions...without ever questioning why the person had to make that decision in the first place...

I think that the people who just disregard this are the truly unfortunate of society because they just go about thier daily lives..counting thier dollars...and spending not realising that materialism will in the end get you no where...and now the conversion of cash to credit takes years to unfold is true nature...

i think it is very wonderful of you to be so strong in your beliefs that you know
that you can be a catalyst for postiive in stead of negative
without a doubt i want to be the same thing..i just have to find a way to hold on
and not be overcome by all the stupid shit that clutters my day up and realise that
simplicity and questions are something i need to keep yearning for and answering.

god i hope i made sense

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brassshadow In reply to brassshadow [2005-02-20 06:39:33 +0000 UTC]

Well I guess I mis-quoted
Been a while since I read the book,
I blame sleep deprevation
it\'s:
\"War is peace\"

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brassshadow In reply to timeisatraveller [2005-02-19 18:20:21 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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brassshadow In reply to darkmalevolence [2005-02-19 18:16:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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