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bricksasuke002 — Hating yaoi and yuri doesn't make one homophobic
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Because if you say that you hate yaoi or yuri, you'll have pseudo-intellectuals such as this jackass act like a rapid monkey and say "ERMEHGURD U HURMURFURB". This is why I made this stamp because as a bisexual, I despise yaoi and yuri. I find it to be unappealing and uninteresting, just like hentai. I put "LGBT" on the stamp instead of just "bisexual" because I've seen plenty of gays and lesbians that disliked yaoi/yuri, and I have a FtM cousin who also has the same opinion as me. Oh wait, even if you are gay, bi, or transgender, you are still a homophobe! Oh my goodness. I totally hate myself for my sexuality all because I dislike a type of gay porn.
Sorry, but if I'm looking for gay or straight porn, I rather see real men or woman doing it, not some damn bishie with the skeletal body of Andy Biersack or with unrealistically big tits while wearing a skimpy school girl outfit. I like my porn natural and realistic thank you very much. Also, I'm not even a shipper, and refuse to ship character that may be straight with their same genders, just like a lot of you wouldn't pair a gay character with their opposite gender.
And for fuck's sake, stop labeling trivial things such as hating on yaoi/yuri "homophobic". It makes you look like a fucking idiot. How about you focus on actual homophobia such as the hate crimes towards the LGBT, people being denied from getting a job because of being part of LGBT, etc. instead?
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As a bi male I hate yaoi and yuri because it fetishizes us. No way around it.
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My OC's LGBT and she loves yaoi. (She's a lesbian.)
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Yaoi/Yuri hate is the reason why I genderswap.
Also, understood but still disagree on disliking gay ships. (As long as it doesn't have any fucked up shit.)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbgSit…
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The only time I'd write some sort of yaoi or yuri is if I'm making a joke or being sarcastic.
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What's the difference between lesbian and yuri?
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my friends literally said that saying "i dont like/support yaoi/yuri" is saying "i dont like/support gay ppl" which literally made me shit i was so confused on how those terms are remotely connected
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I admit that social media, including anime and manga, portray MOST relationships really inaccurately, but you do have to remember that the characters and settings and situations are ALL FICTION. The issue lies with the fans who watch them. I like to see the bond between two characters develop, not some hardcore unrealistic smut that I know will not happen in real life, nor in that universe. I know that whatever happens in another universe cannot be applied to this society. Common 'fetishes' like rape, cross-dressing young boys are all unrealistic, completely false happenings in real life that nobody would like. That's why there has to be distinction between reality and the internet.
Social media only portrays them like that to cater to the audience, and gives them what they want. Everything has a stereotype these days, and no matter what happens, unless the fanbase changes and revolts (which is highly unlikely - fujoshis love their yaoi smut) against these inaccurate portrayals, it won't change. SOME STUPID PEOPLE IN THE ANIME COMMUNITY JUST DON'T SEEM TO GET IT OR MAYBE THEY'RE JUST IN DENIAL, but please don't generalise.
People have their preferences (I'm a straight anime watcher); its quite normal for the LGBT community to dislike yaoi and yuri, and I don't blame them, since they portray a wrong view on gay relationships. But you have to remember, Asians aren't that familiar with homosexuality yet, so of course their attempts were pathetic. Yeah, the way some weebs impose their yaoi and yuri logic on people are disgusting and disgraceful to the mature, experienced viewers. They give us a bad name.
I might sound a bit defensive, but after the negative comments, I just want to add in a little perspective here from an anime fan.
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I think that most of the people that like yuri are usually straight boys and men, and most of the people that like yaoi, are usually straight girls and women. Because yuri and yaoi are hentai, which is porn. And porn just turns things, and people, into fetishes.
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yaoi and yuri aren't always hentai. For example, Sensitive Pornograph is hentai, but Sakura Gari isn't.
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I think non hentai boy x boy is called shounen-ai, and non hentai girl x girl is called shoujo-ai.
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yaoi is made for girls.
yuri is made for boys.
It's gay people marketed towards straights.
In itself, it IS homophobia because it's fetishising us instead of showing the REALITY of what gay people are actually like.
It makes real gay people hard to take serious because yaoi fangirls think we're just "pawns for shipping that would look cute together!"
I fucking despise it.
Being gay, trans, bi, or ANY minority is NOT cool, cute, or kinky. Yes, you have a right to be proud of who you are, as I am openly and proudly gay. But, it is not something you can trivialise and reduce to just being an "interest" when these are real people that exist with thoughts and feelings. It's demeaning and fucking annoying.
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Are you a seme or a uke?
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Hi there, I enjoy yaoi and yuri(I'm not referring to the gay fetishing garbage, I'm referring to male/male or female/female couples that are protrayed as normally as heterosexual couples.) but I absolutely love your comment!
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I'll just say that there's ways to interpret that without putting it under the term "yaoi/yuri"
gay couples can be as heteronormative or the opposite as much as they like, but putting it under that term is confirming that the target audience is straight girls/guys, so therefore I will never support it as something LGBT+ inclusive.
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i'm a transgender girl who dislike yaoi and fangirls :l
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Sigh....I don't like yaoi anymore as the relationships don't make sense 90% of the time! I only like people who will use it properly!
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I'm with you 100%. I don't feel like same-sex relationships are portrayed well in most media, including anime. I have a hard time shipping m/m anyways because I'm a bisexual female and can't really relate to m/m relationships. Is this reasoning egocentric? Probably, but then again, it's just how I look at shipping. If I can't relate to it, I have a hard time shipping it. It makes me happy to see real-life same-sex couples, or something portrayed with a more natural feel, like Legend of Korra's Korrasami, in which the ropmantic relationship between Korra and Asami, while subtle, developed naturally throughout the series. What really bothers me about yaoi fangirls in particular is projected misogyny on female characters. They will belittle female characters, calling them bitches or whores or bimbos or whatever just because they have a canon or semi-canon romantic relationship with a male character in a fangirl's yaoi ship. A lot of ships happen for no other reason than the people involved are really attractive, which is problematic because it fetishizes same-sex relationships. Same-sex relationships are not fetishes for people to get off to, their are real relationships with real people, and they deserve to be represented better in the media and treated better by media consumers.
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As a bisexual male, I disliked Korrasami because there were subtle hints of it as simply pandering to the LGBT demographic (and to yuri fans). In fact, I would find it low on the probability scale for two girls to have formerly dated the same guy to somehow suddenly find themselves attracted to each other (the creators made sure to browbeat Mako's character for good measure). LoK had many flaws, and the ending was one of them. You can like it, but on a subjective scale, it just didn't click with me as that 'realistic'.
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Any weeb is bound to be on the spectrum of either Yuri or Yaoi being their top favorite thing EVAR.
Otaku's are just anime in general and maybe a little hentai on the down low.
Weebs are straight up the people who have the most sexist viewpoints on anything.
Yuri weebs: If it's got a male protagonist, it's shit. If it's got a female all cast and shits on the male gender as being the bad guys, then it's a product that can only be made by a goddess and should be pedestalled as the most superior entertainment and guide to how life should be.
Yaoi weebs: The same. Except the positive aspect to them is the male and the negative the female.
Pure evil bruh. And if the Yuri Weebs are males, they're bound to be SJW's. If female, then "Muh patriarchy!!!"
If the Yaoi Weebs are Male, then they might not have a political opinion on that. They just like the shout like animals about their sexuality then. Although if you ask them, can straight males have pride parades, they'll want to castrate you. Female Yaoi Weebs will just basically be like the male Yuri Weebs. But they won't be talking about political statements. They'll make up the difference with statements on HOT HOT HOT!!!
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I am straight, I was once YAOI-fan during my younger years and now I am PUKING on myself for how I behaved. Today I am a full supporter of LGBTQ and am fighting for my friends' right to be whoever they want to be and with whoever they want to be with. Love is Love. The worst part about yaoi (and some yuri) is that it's made to become spank-material for straight girls (and boys - some yuri tends to give male fan service). Another part is how they tend to forget the struggles real lgbtq people are mostly going through.
One example on this issue of yaoi-fangirls is the one around Naruto and Sasuke's relationship in Masashi Kishimoto's manga. I've got no problem with lgbtq in shounen or shoujo but it has to make sense at least and not be the newest fwap material. When I see Sasunaru slash it's often seme/uke-lovers, out of character, banging each other to make girls go nosebleed. And I love the bond between them - it's sweet how Naruto's always there for his grumpy friend. Their relation is on another level than romance - it's a strong brotherly friendship. However beating each other almost to death isn't romantic - it's called destructive behavior. Yaoi-girls tend to love guys who beat each other to death and calls them "in love" for it...wtf... Yes I ship Naruto with a girl but it doesn't mean I hate gay-couples - I just think it has to make sense first. I love how you made a strong conclusion about this issue!
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When you say some Yuri instead of all Yuri, you fail to see how Yaoi and Yuri are all the exact same thing minus gender. And that's not right bruh. Gender ain't a factor in quality bruh.
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I don't believe myself that gender is a factor in quality. Since I'm not expert on the category "yuri" I didn't want to make some assumptions about it. I believe yuri is used a fucking fwap material too and if you're saying it as experienced I take thy word. Of course I've found yaoi that has some sweetness into it - for example Me Niwa Sayakani Mienedomo by Maeda Tomo - is an excellent example of sweet lovestorys. So I should've been fair and said some yaoi and some yuri instead of summing up the other as worse than the other.
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I've personally seen my fair share of Yuri, and my fair share of the fanbase. They're bound to have at some point called Yaoi as Yaoishit or hetero stuff as hetshit. Only fanbase I've seen that ever called a sexuality as shit and inferior like that.
Some of the most well known Yuri bloggers I've heard of have had comments that they agree with that spew all kinds of anti male shit such as undermining single father's in custody by saying males are far less capable of being loving.
And yet they call themselves people for equal rights and gay rights. But they spend their time trying to excuse their degenerated reasons by saying "lesbians are mystifyin and so mystic".
I fail to remember when gays wanted to be looked at as not normal like the rest of us.
A bunch of crazy crayons in a rainbow colored box of hypocrisy.
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I see the yuri-fandom has a little hypocrisy among them =/ I destroys for them who're just enjoying seeing lgbtq-representation and wants to spread love and awareness... and just be normal lovers like anybody else despite sexuality.
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There's plenty of hypocrisy in anything. But the most sexist hypocrisy I've seen lies in the typical Yuri fanbase. Yaoi fanbases tend to just be overly obnoxious but less to do with "You're a girl so I hate you" while in the Yuri fanbases case it's more "YOU'RE A GUY, DESPITE ME BEING ONE, AND I HATE YOU!"
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Yeeez, that sucks.
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I like some homosexual comics if they arent't exaggerated (realistic comics and all)
BUT, I believe that anime/manga yaoi/yuri are fucking gross. plus a lot of them consist of a character getting raped falling in love with their rapist or just abusive relationships
Also I'm not into emo like bullshit characters either
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Theyre is a horrible manga called haou airen witch has a straight couple love however its abusive and toxic the girl gets kidnapped abused and r*** by a hong kong mobster bishie king. They're are some yaoi mangas and some yaoi animes that are good but its rare to find the good ones
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Makes you wonder doesn't it? If you don't like straight rom-coms, does that make you a heterophobe? I guess I hate straight people, because The Notebook bored me to unconsciousness.
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Omg, you're not the only one. One of my teacher's suggested "The Notebook" to me because she thought I like chick flicks. I'm like "If there is no magic, no fantasy, no adventure or something interesting to get into, I ain't interested period!"
I'm a hopeless romantic too. I love romance, I just want other things in the story besides it. Romance can only get so far for me. And yeah...yaoi/yuri fans don't ever make sense. They just find any excuse to hate you for hating on their precious pairings, being most mistake yaoi/yuri as a religion and not a fandom.
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The romance genre in general bores me.
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I'm actually the opposite: I'm straight (I support LGBT, though) and I like yaoi and yuri. If you don't like it, though, I completely respect it.
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The main problem that the author of this stamp is trying to emphasize is that yaoi and yuri tend to fetishize LGBT characters rather than portraying them realistically, which is inherently homophobic. Same goes for the fans of the genres. A lot of gay people dislike and are uncomfortable with this because they are being used as a basis for companies and studios to profit off of. This is more prevalent in both Japan and Korea. You can like yaoi and yuri, but taking them too seriously or confusing fiction from real life is where the line has to be drawn.
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I agree. Yaoi and Yuri rely too much on gay stereotypes.
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Heh, I was told that I'm a hypocrite since I'm gay and I hate yaoi. Good to know I'm not the only one.
Don't think yuri/yaoi automatically means porn, though. Sure, there's some pretty weird shit out there, but yuri/yaoi is generally considered a step up from shoujo/shonen ai. The latter usually deals with romantic, fluffy stuff and is intended for teenagers. The former is for mature adults and may contain graphic depictions of sex. It doesn't necessarily have to be hentai, though. With that said, some yuri can be quite good if it focuses on story rather than fucking. I personally like Ebine Yamaji's stuff.
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You are correct sorta...From the definition of yaoi
"The genre currently known as Boy's Love, BL, or yaoi derives from two sources. Female authors writing for shōjo (girl's) manga magazines in the early 1970s published stories featuring platonic relationships between young boys, which were known as tanbi (aesthetic) or shōnen ai (boy love). In the late 1970s, women and girls in the dōjinshi (fan fiction) markets of Japan started to produce sexualized parodies of popular shōnen (boy's) anime and manga stories in which the male characters were recast as gay lovers
The terms yaoi and shōnen-ai are sometimes used by Western fans to differentiate between two variants of the genre. In this case, yaoi is used to describe titles that primarily feature sexually explicit themes and sex scenes, while shōnen-ai is used to describe titles that focus primarily on romance and omit explicit sexual content, although sexual acts may be implied.[26] [27] [28] According to this use of the terms, Gravitation would be considered shōnen-ai due to its focus on the characters' careers rather than their love life, while the Gravitation Remix and Megamix dōjinshi by the same author, in which the characters' sexual relationships are emphasized, would be classified as yaoi."
So you and Bricksasuke002 are sorta both right. It originally didn't mean "gay porn" but English speaking fans decided that there should be some way to tell the difference between the over sexual stories and just the romantic ones. Fans chose "yaoi" to represent sexialized and non canon stuff, while shounen ai was to mean more of the fluff stuff.
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So, it looks like that I'm a hypocrite too for being a bisexual and hate yaoi. Oh yaoi fangirls and their hilarious logic.
I thought yaoi/yuri meant gay porn. Interesting.
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Oh yeah, gotta love the fans... They have this wonderful gift to make me hate anything they're associated with.
And I don't blame you, sometimes it's confusing to tell the difference. I'd say it's yuri if it focuses on the plot, but also happens to contain some sex scenes - which are present only because of character development, not as fan service, and they also tend to be far less graphic.
If the plot only exists as a lame excuse for bringing two girls together and having them fuck like animals, it's lesbian hentai. I never really read yuri that much and I haven't touched any for more than 3 years, so I'm no expert, but I still think this explanation is pretty accurate. XD
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Well, i don't like yaoi and yuri because of the realism of the scenarios and the artstyle , however, there's a few bara comics I like, they tend to be more realistic of homosexual interactions, but even they have their hit and misses.
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That's cool. I'm LBGT and I''m perfectly fine with Yaoi/Yuri. Personally at least here is 'less'' rape involved then Hentai.
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Someone seriously give that man a sandwich.
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He's a picky eater.
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I'm a vegan, and I can beat him in arm wrestling.
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