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Description which of you have chosen the destruction ending, hum ?
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SoturoAyami [2013-07-11 01:17:14 +0000 UTC]

I could not kill EDI after the whole putting her and Joker together, not to mention she was one of my favorite AI personalities ever (aside from Legion, GLadoS, and Clap Trap). That an all that shit I went through for the Geth and the progress made with the Quarians, it would have been shit to just take it away 'cause it's not just damning one 'species' its damning two. This is one achievement I won't be getting.

All of my feels.

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brinx-II In reply to SoturoAyami [2013-07-13 21:42:10 +0000 UTC]

it is on that in terms of AI, she has surpassed all previous ones in science fiction.

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SoturoAyami In reply to brinx-II [2013-07-14 16:37:19 +0000 UTC]

I personally agree with you. Legion was adorable and I was upset with his 'death' but EDI was something else entirely. Like a kid with all access to all the knowledge in the world learning what it means to live among chaotic emotions and adapting to it.

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Unicron9 [2013-07-11 00:28:13 +0000 UTC]

I like all 3 of the (revised) endings quite a bit, just not the extra one so much. Each has its ups and downs, and you basically play god to end the whole threat one way or another. I see why some would choose control, like Komodie said, but synthetic is a great permanent fix for the main problem of AIs vs creators, and Destroy solves the problem in a decisive, one sided, and brutal way, at least until history repeats itself.

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Allelujah-Kyrios In reply to ??? [2013-07-11 00:08:05 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely wonderful.

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brinx-II In reply to Allelujah-Kyrios [2013-07-13 21:33:22 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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choirchick22 In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 23:31:24 +0000 UTC]

I always choose destroy. Honestly as sad and beautiful as this is, I find tragic romance to be my favorite. Plus destroy is the best option in my opinion.

This is a beautiful piece!

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brinx-II In reply to choirchick22 [2013-07-13 21:33:03 +0000 UTC]

"it was logical kirk"

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FirelordPhoenix In reply to choirchick22 [2013-07-10 23:58:33 +0000 UTC]

I also choose Destroy mostly followed by Syth, Control is just lame and idiotic. Reason I do destroy most is because I feel like I am betraying all that have died trying to destroy the reapers. Kaiden or Ashley, Wrex if you killed him then the team from ME2 If you let some die. (I get perfect so they all live so I'm epic)
Then Anderson all that sacrifice only for you to say fuck you and let them live.

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0raichu100 In reply to FirelordPhoenix [2013-07-13 15:22:08 +0000 UTC]

Don't the geth also make sacrifices to try to destroy the reapers? And all the individuals who have some kind of technological implant in their bodies (and quarians and volus with their enviro suits)? What about the fact that you're sort of ruining a lot of peoples' lives by destroying life-saving technology, mass relays, etc.?

I think "destroy" is far more of a betrayal to the people of the galaxy than either of the other endings.

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FirelordPhoenix In reply to 0raichu100 [2013-07-13 15:34:15 +0000 UTC]

I think you miss understand the concept of destroy It only destroys AI and reaper tech, The Relays and citadel are reaper tech and Omi tools and evo suits/implants are NOT AI
so they will remain un-effected. VI I "think" are left unharmed not sure about VI, however VI is only there to mange some systems (Like production plants or Tourist Guides and so on.) and can easily be fixed or managed by organics till there working again.

As for geth they are tech they are not as important as Organic life, I am not saying the geth should die or that I do not like them but they were created by organics so they come second in priority.
Also they only gain Singularity because of reaper code witch is another reason they are hit.

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GrievouslyGreat In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 23:30:00 +0000 UTC]

*Did the destruction ending* . . . . .

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C05M0NAUT In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 23:18:42 +0000 UTC]

I went for synthesis. ;w;

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AlexiusDAlex In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:53:52 +0000 UTC]

I did. I felt worse about this than about killing the Geth entirely.

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blackdragon21 In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:49:03 +0000 UTC]

not me but then again i only played it once and am playing it from the first game again.

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AmensMagus In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:42:36 +0000 UTC]

I must admit I chose the destruction ending, and this is the worst part about that one
You've captured the feeling og the situation really well, almost too well.
I feel kinda sad now....

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brinx-II In reply to AmensMagus [2013-07-13 21:31:42 +0000 UTC]

well sorry

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Leofina In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:33:54 +0000 UTC]

the feelz but beautifully done <3

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brinx-II In reply to Leofina [2013-07-13 21:31:09 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Stormsworder In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:16:19 +0000 UTC]

I didn't. I couldn't bear to kill EDI (even though I forever ship FemShep with Joker), and the Geth would have been SO beneficial to the Quarians!

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Komodie In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:05:17 +0000 UTC]

I always choose control, because I think as a hero, Shepard is forfeit. I also hate killing the poor geth, and EDI. And, with the control ending, Shepard is still technically alive. Loophole!

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Maehedrose In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 22:01:57 +0000 UTC]

Of course, in my personal canon I had to make a lot of really messed up decisions, including killing a friend in cold blood because he stood between me and an army I needed to fight a war.

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Shamus-McGee In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 21:59:46 +0000 UTC]

Still the best ending.

Seriously though, great take on that unseen bit of the epilogue.

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brinx-II In reply to Shamus-McGee [2013-07-13 21:30:19 +0000 UTC]

yes. They have quite "forgotten" to tell us about that.

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Maehedrose In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 21:58:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's the only regret I have about choosing that path.

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TheScarletMercenary In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 21:43:32 +0000 UTC]

Why! Why can't they have back ups?!

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brinx-II In reply to TheScarletMercenary [2013-07-13 21:28:13 +0000 UTC]

relevant

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TheScarletMercenary In reply to brinx-II [2013-07-13 21:29:08 +0000 UTC]

k

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0raichu100 In reply to TheScarletMercenary [2013-07-13 15:24:37 +0000 UTC]

Because if that kind of backup were possible/commonplace, the reapers might have them too.

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TheScarletMercenary In reply to 0raichu100 [2013-07-13 15:27:00 +0000 UTC]

Dang your right...

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Big-Wired In reply to TheScarletMercenary [2013-07-10 21:47:45 +0000 UTC]

Because that would have required more thinking than the people writing those endings had.

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TheScarletMercenary In reply to Big-Wired [2013-07-10 21:50:35 +0000 UTC]

Well It's actually in my head canon... Everyone has back ups

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Big-Wired In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 21:40:02 +0000 UTC]

I choose the destroy ending because it was the least worse of all four options.

Do Nothing and have the Reapers win means that the last three games amounted to JACK SHIT (pardon my language).

Synthesis made no god damned sense. Magic Green Mint Energy, what the hell? Plus, changing everyone without their input is about the WORST kind of violation you can do, and on a galactic scale to boot.

Control? Well, control just means that the Illusive Man was right all along, and that we are now making the choice to control an ancient and VERY dangerous technology that is massive on a scale far beyond anything we've seen before and trusting ourselves not to abuse the power when really, NO ONE should have that power.

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bostonianful In reply to Big-Wired [2024-08-27 13:45:05 +0000 UTC]

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GreyDrake In reply to Big-Wired [2013-09-07 21:25:13 +0000 UTC]

I keep seeing this argument, and I just don't get it. Maybe your Shepard would eventually abuse that power, but mine never would. She sacrificed herself to keep the galaxy safe. I'm not seeing it was an easy choice, but all of my Shepards were Paragons who worked hard to make peace between organics and synthetics (or heck, organics and organics. Curing the krogan is almost as difficult as making peace between the geth and quarians, and has just as many long-term implications). When it came right down to it, the Illusive Man and his bogus ideologies had nothing to do with it. The price to destroy the Reapers was simply too high.

It is a lot of power, but my Shepards will only ever use to protect the galaxy. Keep the peace, protect the weak, everything a Paragon is supposed to do. Control is the ideal ending for everyone except Shepard's LI, and that seems like a pretty selfish reason to preserve Shepard's life, imo.

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brinx-II In reply to Big-Wired [2013-07-13 21:27:39 +0000 UTC]

Yes, an end rather poorly written. the main mass effect debate.

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0raichu100 In reply to Big-Wired [2013-07-13 15:26:23 +0000 UTC]

I 100% agree with you about Control - something about that just kind of creeped me out - but I disagree with your assertion about Synthesis. Well, I agree about the "magic green mint" part lol, it is kind of a deus ex, but I don't see how "changing people without their consent" is worse than "killing people without their consent" when you have to make that decision without anyone's input.

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OdieKun In reply to Big-Wired [2013-07-11 07:59:51 +0000 UTC]

This. This. This. This. A thousand times, this. Destroy is the only ending that makes any goddamn sense. Losing EDI is a terrible tragedy. But I firmly believe that anyone who made one of the other choices because they were "sad about the dying robots" should really not be in charge of saving the galaxy. They're severely misinformed. And possibly brain damaged.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-13 13:45:18 +0000 UTC]

As much as I love EDI and the Geth, I would never let that cloud my judgment. They are only robots in the end, no matter how we try to believe they are more than that. Destroy all the way for me too.

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-13 22:06:42 +0000 UTC]

Thankkk you. If there had been a rational way of saving them, I would have. It broke my heart to let EDI die (and I wish they had capitalized on that in the actual ending). But the Reapers were basically a cleaning service gone wrong to begin with, so sparing them doesn't make any sense. It may take a week, a year, or ten millenia, but there'll always the risk that the Reapers will undergo another error and become omnipotent executioners again. I wasn't about to take that chance.

And synthesis....just.... forcing a permanent change in genetic code across the entire galaxy is just all kinds of wrong.

There were a lot of situations throughout the trilogy where I stared blankly at the screen for twenty solid minutes because I just couldn't decide what to do. But this ending was a no brainer.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-14 19:34:17 +0000 UTC]

I have the same opinion. If there was a way to save them in a rational way, I would also do it.
Thing is, that I decided to not believe anything that the Catalyst said. He tries to make Shepard avoid choosing Destroy with 2 other options that didn't make any sense. So, in my canon he lied about the AIs or they can just be rebuilt. I don't care, I just don't accept that crappy ending they delivered to us!

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-15 07:26:37 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Indoctrination Theory all the way.

And as much as I hated Casey Hudson's giant middle finger to my face....I mean Refusal, it's the only other option that makes any sense. That is, if you can accept the idea that Shepard would get all the way to the finish line just to refuse to cross it. I mostly mean the outcome actually makes sense: Cycle complete, better luck next time.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-15 12:10:23 +0000 UTC]

Refusal is just as worse as Synthesis and Control for me. what a deception to the whole galaxy, to yourself, to your friends. Better not even finish playing ME1 if I believed Refusal was the right call. No point in playing the 3 games to just give up on your whole objective because of the non sense that some strange AI tells you.

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-15 20:25:09 +0000 UTC]

Haha oh no I totally agree. It doesn't make any sense to just refuse to save the galaxy. What I mean is the outcome, the 'bad ending' makes sense. The reapers win, humanity failed, Liara leaves a warning message for the next batch of hopefuls. Refusal is definitely NOT the right call, but the failure to save the galaxy is more believable than space magic.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-16 04:09:42 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, it's definitely more believable!
Space magic is a joke!

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-16 09:20:38 +0000 UTC]

Haha indeed it is.


I'm curious as to what your opinion of the Citadel DLC is. I haven't played it myself (couldn't rationalize giving Bioware more money), but I've seen enough of it to have an opinion on it. And since we seem to share similar views on the ending, I was just wondering what your thoughts were.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-21 11:02:11 +0000 UTC]

I think that Citadel DLC is a great DLC. Regardless of what they did to ME3's ending, this DLC a well spent money, imo.
It's pure fan service, it has funny moments and sweet dialogues between your Shep and his/her LI.
I romanced Garrus and I loved him in this DLC even more. He was sweeter than ever and also a little... horny.
It's not what we all wanted, a new ending but it sure gives you a nostalgia feeling and you feel even closer to your companions and LI.
I recommend you to get it, it's not like it's very expensive anyway.

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-21 17:12:43 +0000 UTC]

From what I've seen of it, I think it looks completely ridiculous to be honest. Jack's romance scene is at least better than the crap they gave her in ME3. But my main issue with the Citadel content is that it doesn't take place post-game. I know, I know, with the way it ended. But it just feels....inappropriate to me. Like all I can think about is the fact that Jack's booty bumpin on the counter, Tali's doin "the Shepard" on the dance floor, Grunts crying drunk in the shower, and Traynor is having an intellectual conversation about Lesbians with EDI. MEANWHILE BACK ON EARTH....Know what I mean?


I mean, I can't fully knock it without trying it myself. And one thing I'll admit is that it's probably one of the only DLCs out there that actually provides enough content for the price (I have serious issues with the way most companies handle DLC). I'm sure I'll check it out fully eventually, whether in game or on youtube. I don't doubt that it has some really heartwarming moments. But the "party at Shepard's house" never really did it for me. And I was REALLY disappointed that none of the DLC (save for the day-one DLC) gave us any new permanent squadmates. I dunno about you, but I would have loved for Aria, Nyreen, and the whole Citadel crew to join for keeps. Would have improved my ME3 experience exponentially.

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N7LucyShep In reply to OdieKun [2013-07-21 17:34:37 +0000 UTC]

It's not like they stayed a whole week partying or anything.
I think Aria is better off in Omega, even that I like her.
Omega DLC was pretty lame imo. That one was indeed a waste of money...

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OdieKun In reply to N7LucyShep [2013-07-21 19:26:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that's what I've heard. I am actually pretty interested in the Leviathan DLC though. I was too mad at the ending to buy any of the DLC. Boycott to Bioware, but I'll probably play them eventually. At least Leviathan.

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