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Calates In reply to Kasterborous [2013-11-10 11:47:33 +0000 UTC]

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-10 11:52:26 +0000 UTC]

Like any other ULC ship it has a heavy focus on armor and I didn't mention it but yes, it can decend trough the use of anti-grav after which it lands on extendable landing gear. It's one of two ULC ships capable of actually landing.

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-10 12:16:09 +0000 UTC]

Right, ULC = lots of armor. Must be very used to kinetic weapons then...
One of two ships including or excluding the shuttle? (persuming they have shuttles, they could also have transporter tech...).

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-10 16:55:24 +0000 UTC]

Energy based weapons are still in their infancy in my universe, the only ship based lasers require so much power that they can only be used on battleships and dreadnaughts. They do have plasma based warheads and the Javelin medium turret fires rounds with a plasma core.

By two ships I ment the corvette and the interceptor, I wouldn't consider the 'shuttle' a ship in the same sense.

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-10 20:09:48 +0000 UTC]

Ah right, not so advanced (so an ULC battle cruiser wouldn't stand much of a chance against a Ventor class Star Destroyer, or a Constitution class cruiser).

In my universe kinetic and thermal weaponery became obsolete against shields around the EUSN's gen III fleet (current gen is IV ).
All shields of personal to dreadnaught absorb and reuse 100% of all kinetic impacts, and shields of light corvettes to dreadnaughts do the same with thermal weapons. (so no bullets, basic explosives, or even a H-bomb of any magnitude).
What damages a shield are the unique paricle signitures of certain weapons, like the electron arc accelerator, or the energized proton canon.
Thats also why in my universe some weapons work better against certain shields (like the electron arc accelerator works pretty well against magnetic or pulse based shielding tech).

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-10 20:54:52 +0000 UTC]

That depends on what those ships are made off, the Nagoian fires a 10 metric ton projectile at 4000 km/h. Just because it doesn't have any shields or energy weapons like in most sci-fi series doesn't mean it isn't pretty damn powerfull.

No offense but how does a shield reuse kinetic energy? A missile is not a full thermall weapon, the explosion also has kinetic damage. An actually thermal weapon is a weapon that causes it's damage due to extreme heat like a laser.

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-10 22:13:09 +0000 UTC]

I know, I said no kinetic or thermal, so that includes bullets, missiles, lasers, rockets, grenaids, C-4, etc.
An energy shield is not a single-time emitted bubble, its a bubble constantly held in place by the generator.
In effect, the generator and the shield are in constant interaction with eachother, energy is constantly flowing out of the generator, around the ship, back into the generator and then out of the generator again (At least, as far as many shields in the Milky Way go; Magaar shields are too advanced and complicated to understand and Titans are shadowy people that don't like sharing secrets)
The first shields were "solid", projectiles bounced off and energy got deflected. The problem with those are shuttles or fighters could fly out from the shield (polarization) but not back in.
Two ships being too close together would also stand a very big risk of bouncing off eachother (and losing a lot of shield power in the process) and considering having shields was the only option to not let a microbe-sized spec of space dust punch a fist-sized hole through your ship while going ftl this was a major problem.
So, gen III shields absorb and process energy that the shield comes in contact with inside the generator at the cost of shield energy.
Like this though some energies can get converted into electricity or pulse to use for ship power, and kinetic and thermal energy are by far the easiest to do so.
The amount of energy you gain from that isn't great though (you wont be able to recharge a downed shield with it), but at least some pirate, Glish, flying "too close" to a star, hitting an astroide, etc wont do any damage.
The only draw back is that any ship can pass through the shield with advanced enough frequency tuning (great for your fighters or shuttles, but bombers came back into fashion with these shields).

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-10 23:26:48 +0000 UTC]

That's one long ass post O.o

You can convert thermal energy into chemically stored energy but I don't think you can directly convert kinetic energy into electrical energy since it's not really the same think. Tough I'm starting to think I shouldn't apply real world logic here. Your universe is heavily Star Trek and Star Wars inspired right?

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-11 10:10:03 +0000 UTC]

Uuuuuuuhhhhh......... maybe....
Well yeah, Star Wars and Star Trek are the first two sci-fi I grew up with, and as much of a blasphamy it is, I like them both just as much ^^
Afterwards Stargate, Homeworld and many other things I read or saw inspired me.

Physics says that any form of energy can be turned into any other form of energy (light -> heat -> movement is the most basic).
Of wich heat and movement is the most converted the whole time (friction of movent causes heat, wich excites things to move again. Heat turns into light and visa versa with a fire)
Now this 700 years later from now (gen II fleet), there is better understanding how things like that work making any industry practically pollution free, by the time of the gen III fleet (850 years from) they're advanced enough to make shields that fully absorb and reuse the two most common (besides light) energy types out there.
(My logic for it is simple: physics is far from complete, and our current understanding is less than a fraction; as soon as something is solved, or partly solved, an entire plethora of other anomalies or undiscoveries pop up. So also FTL ^^)
Aaaaaaand another lengthy post... I guess you're starting to understand how my brother feels now

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-11 10:24:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes heat can be turned into movement but not directly, a common one is steam > moves a rotor attached to a dynamo > creates electricity. Light and heat are also commonly go together, in a way you are kinda right though since heat is caused by particles moving around so it does cause movement

Don't get me wrong I do find your ideas interesting and as sci-fi writers we have to take certain liberties from the modern day physics model (which I consider to be 50% bullcrap). Otherwise we wouldn't have FTL or any of the other cool stuff that we like so much.  For example in my universe we just threw the 'you can't go faster then light' theory out the window and there is a liquid that can complete absorb radiation to make my over-use of fusion reactors safer.  Not to mention that my engines are based on negative gravity, which I'm not even sure of if it's theoretically possible.

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-11 11:44:59 +0000 UTC]

Actually sometime in 2001 and then again in 2008 (or 2010) scienists believe they detected a "positronic" graviton (in effect, an antigraviton)
Though it anhialated too quick to be sure.
I read that on wiki once though I'm not so sure how legit it is since I don't believe the graviton itself was discovered yet...
Techically you can invent any kind of matter you want in your universe; I find it hard to believe that all the types of mattervpossible in the universe have discovered on this tiny little planet here.
Also, the theory that nothing travels faster than light has also become watery with the proposition that tychions have the same problems as photons; they can't go slower than a certain speed (a Mexican scientist came up with that I believe...).

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-11 12:30:19 +0000 UTC]

I don't think the graviton has actually been discovered but like most particles it just fits into the model. If you keep adding things into your universe you end up like Star Trek, which has a particle for pretty much anything. The FTL theory is watery anyway considering that it states that an object travelig at that speed would have infinite mass, considering light is a particle with mass that moves like a wave it should have infinite mass. Which it doesn't.

That and there is suposedly an object out there moving at 4 times the speed of light that sends out radio waves . . .

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Tattorack In reply to Calates [2013-11-11 12:51:23 +0000 UTC]

Nah, I don't have particles for everything.
I do have an energy family tree, and "one dimensional" energy (energy thats only wave, examples of that are plasma energy (not actual plasma), point zero, e-type 155 (elaborately known as mana force), Direct energy).

And yeah... heard of that; its a piece of dense gas flung out from a supernova right?
They say it looks like that because its traveling at a certain angle towards Earth, but that doesn't make sense at all...

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Calates In reply to Tattorack [2013-11-11 16:21:05 +0000 UTC]

Not entirely sure what it is, eitherway it's pretty interesting.

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