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Candy I love your everything because reasons, and your Space Husbands for very specific reasons we both share <3.
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I love this picture & everything you draw. Just so you know. Your stuff brings me oodles of joy. <3
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It would have to be for Uhura! because since love and all that go with it are Biological functions. It would be a waste of Logical minds and time on another male.
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If you read what I wrote to the others you would see It is not. Vulcans are written in Start Teck as Heterosexual monogamous people.
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IDIC
(The base Vulcan philosophy. Not heterosexual or monogamous. Sorry to disappoint.)
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Then Think of it as pure logic for that is what Vulcans are suposse to be. Ponn Farr is a biological imperative. Imperative so they can mate with their bonded spouses. Then the rest of the time they seem even in the writing to be celebit the rest of the time. So on that note since Two males can't naturally have children together. And two females can't have children naturally together. That it is not natural and as C Evert Koop the Surgeon General said in a report that un-natural sexual acts spread disease. Vulcans would not participate in something that would spread disease. That means homosexuality or even promiscuity and even adultery wouldn't be participated in by a logic person who wanted to keep themselves and their families healthy And to propagate the species.
Mind you I didn't mention the Bible. I used only Logic. If you want me to talk to you further on this come to my journal I am more than willing to discuss this all you want.
Yeah IDIC but for Logical things but not illogical ones!
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Nope, it's just IDIC. Accepting every and all little variants that can possibly exist, logical or illogical (humans are illogical creatures, yet Vulcans find no problem with associating with them). The 'but' is only your invention to appease your belief system.
Stop forcing your beliefs onto a purely alien culture. And onto those who wish no part in it.
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Logic can't accept illogical into ones standards. In other wards you can be around illogical people but you do not have to let them corrupt you. You can however hope to goodness they will learn from your good example.
Accepting the illogical dose not mean you have to agree with it or do it. It means that you know it happens and avoid the pit falls.
If you are admitting that you are Illogical and thus alien to me I am not forcing anything on anyone. You talked to me first Did you not . If you don't like logic well that is you. On that note Live long and prosper.
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I believe we are all missing the fact that Spock it is not just Vulcan, he is human too, so he can be illogical ._. isn't that kind of important in this conversation about logic?
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Not really since even in all the books he is a heterosexual and is in the latest one married happily to Savic. He isn't A Homosexual. But to for this conversation he prizes Logic above all else. And many times even in the writings of the original books he remained staunchly logical no matter how emotional he showed himself to be. I have read all the books.
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Good for you, but we all know that even with all that space husbands is real 
Bye, I'm done with this
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excuse me???!!?
1. i think you're not talking about "biological functions", you're talking about reproduction specifically. and there's always logic behind choosing and not choosing to reproduce
2. uhura isn't the only female on the enterprise/in the universe?????
3. my drawing my rules it's for jim
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Are you saying Jim is a female? Oh well. It is as it is in your universe.
You do agree then that The Creator of the Universe the greatest artist of them all has the right to say what is done with his art. I am just saying that the God who created the Universe and it's beauty and Humans with all the lovely emotions and desires that go with them. He has the right to say if someone tries to corrupt them with unnatural things.
Nature and the Make of the human body proves that Homosexuality is unnatural. But since this little piece of art is your work. You have a say as how you drew it. Actually Spock and Kirk are Roddenberry's original characters and well lets say Kirk was a bad womanizer. And Vulcans are written up as bonded Monogamous heterosexual beings. His art work.
I do like your style of work though. So don't get hurt if I say that something that is un-natural is illogical. And are you saying Kirk is a female?
The bible guides me in my thinking and it is the Word of God the grand Creator and Best and first Artist. You can appreciate that cant you. If you look further into what I wrote BrokenCivilization you will understand my thoughts on the matter. I am more than willing to share the same exact information with you if you like. I can even share scriptures.
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jim is a male, but if him being a female will make your incredibly narrow-minded view of the world more comfortable, then i guess nothing is stopping you from delusioning yourself
just because YOU believe what's written in a very old translation of a book doesn't mean everyone else does. ;D
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We read the original text and get the true meanings from what the original meanings were. And If you Find Gods view of what he wants people to be like. Well It is exactly like you not wanting something read into your work what you didn't intend. God intended for Humans to live forever on a paradise Earth. God designed the earth and all it's aspects. And yes it is old because it is Gods word and He saw to it that it came to us in tact with the original meanings. {The Bible That is}
You mean to tell me that because it is old you wouldn't read it or believe it? It is as I said to our friend here John 17: 3 this means everlasting life their coming to know you. That is God Jehovah} and the one whom you sent Jesus Christ. {His son}
Is there any other Book or belief that can promise Humans such a wonderful prospect? Even if it is old it i s the original promise. I look forward to it and want others like yourself and our friend to. Wouldn't you want to live forever on the earth With God as our king? He is loving and kind. Promising things such as in Isaiah 33:24 And no resident will say I am sick. The people dwelling in the land will be pardoned for their error.
Only God Jehovah promises that we will live forever and not be sick and or errors will be pardoned. Can you give me a book a religion or a promise such as this? If you can tell me. Also if you can wouldn't you do your very best to live up to what the author of such a book or writing said was proper to receive such a hope?
Maybe a lot of people don't believe as I do. But I am a people person who loves my neighbor and want them to live forever to.
My mind isn't narrow I just don't go against the nature that God set out in the bible. One man one woman and to fill the earth and subdue it. Oh I forgot to say it says. Be fruitful and become many. Let me Quote Genesis 1:28 "Further God blessed them. And God said to them. Be fruitful and become many. Fill the earth and subdue it. Have in subjection the fish of the seas and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature moving upon the earth."
One can not Be fruitful and become many if they practice homosexuality.
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oh really, can you read hebrew?
no i'm not saying a book has no value because it's old. some parts of the bible have no value because it's outdated. who nowadays doesn't wear mixed linen, and most people eat shellfish. and you know what, almost all animals on earth (and not just humans) practice homosexuality. according to you, since god made those animals to his design so i guess homosexuality is pretty normal.
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I know that there were several languages that the original text were written in. One was Aramaic and Greek I don't read ether but I have a books on translation as well as The new bibles are pretty good translations.
All the laws about homosexuals are not just in the Hebrew scriptures. it is in the New Testaments to. I am what the Bible calls a Gentile. And the Gentiles were let into the congregation long ago. I believe the bible is a good guide book for all of our health and a guide to make all man kind good people.
There are no actual homosexual animals per say. There are Asexual animals designed to procreate that way. Animals that are to shall we say horny to know the difference between a female and male can't procreate with the same sex partner so there for they are not quite right. Lets say there is a prize race horse and they want him to be put out to stud for more good race horses. But he is off and only mates with males. He is not quite right and well useless as a stud to produce more horses.
Sex is for pleasure as well as procreation. So if a person wants to do it the way god intended it would be with the natural mate for them! Right? I am saying if you believe in evolution would we not all be hermaphrodites{ having both sexes in us so we could have sex with same sex} or Asexual { Reproducing on our own with no partner}? Point is the male organ {P} has the sexual organs attached not his Anus or his mouth. Like wise the female has her Sex organs in one area. Made perfectly for the males organ to work correctly. It is natural and correct. Females also don't have sex organs in their Anus or mouth. So ether of the other orifices is unnatural and to top it off against Gods laws.
Laws are set up in our society to protect us. Such as murder if wrong in every society a good low don't you think? Same with laws on thievery.
So We follow Gods laws. not wrong or antiquated
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how do you know if it's a good translation if you don't read the original language and it directly contradicts what you said about reading the "original text"
also i like how you completely ignore my point about linen and shellfish. do you wear mixed linens, pray tell? if you do, then i don't see how you can be so self righteous and lecture other people (who're not even christian to begin with) to follow your teachings from a TRANSLATED book.
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My husband does he actually had many books on them to. A good way for someone who doesn't is to compare a variety of translations. And thus come to a closer understanding of the original text.
That is interesting that you are trying to argue about a subject you know nothing about and are unwilling to let me explain to you what I know and believe. As for the Restrictions in the Jewish law there is a good explanation of which if you are truly curious about. And don't want to argue. we could discuss.
I am a Christian and I believe Jesus is the Lord and Savior of mankind. I am not self-righteous simply affirming bible standards. If your not one I can help you understand Christians.
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you still didn't answer my question.
do you eat pork or shellfish?
do you go out and stone every women who didn't marry their rapist?
"Self-righteousness is a feeling or display of moral superiority derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person." I do think that's a pretty good description of you right now.
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I am a gentile I am not under the Jewish law. I can't ear shellfish because of allergies. No other reason. I do eat pork because when Jesus came he allowed non Jews not to be under those laws. In Acts the entire chapter of 10. But let us pay attention to 10: 10-15. In this chapter God let Peter see a table full of food that would other wise be considered unclean for them to eat. And told him to eat. he showed him three times. And finally on verse 15 The voice of told him Peter to stop calling defiled the things God has made cleansed. We can't be certain that those animals were unclean because of cooking methods of they day were not adaquite. But it shows that Christians are allowed to eat things that the Jewish law said was wrong.
The final law was love. Other things like circumcision was under the Jewish law to. But later on no longer required for the Congregation.
And of course I don't stone people who are raped. The law of love stands here. We lovingly understand that if a woman is raped that they are not at fault. We don't hold that against them. The men who rape are the guilty. We leave them to the secular authorities That statement was meant to make me upset. It didn't it only shows you believe lies people have told you about true Christians and there for need someone to help you understand.
I am not selfrighteous because I believe what I do. I sincerely do want people to understand I don't consider myself better of superior I am a sinner just like everyone else. I am trying to keep myself as close to what the bible requires of us so I may be forgiven of my sins.
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You're not helping the stereotype that Christians are pushy and annoying.
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You know it might be so. But we are told to by bible scripture to preach to other. I am not tending to be pushy. And I said if you would like to know about my religion just ask. If you really want to. If you ask me a question I will answer it for you. If I am annoying to you why did you contact me?
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Because I wanted to understand all those references to shepherds, like Jesus being called The Good Shepherd, and Pastors calling their congregation their "flock". Is it just because Christians are meant to blindly follow what someone tells them to follow? Like sheep?
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You have actually hit on the crux of the issue. Jesus would never lie to us like human leaders do. He give us rule and regulations to protect us from those who would harm us or lead us into wrong directions and way of life. Like a loving Sheppard. Matthew 25: 31 -33. The reason this term is used it is because sheep are obedient and trusting. And Goats are obstinate and self willed. It gets back to the main question of the bible. If man can really chose to lead for themselves. The answer is shown in how the world is today with human rule. NO so we need the Good Sheppard to direct us and tell us just what is required so we can benefit ourselves. I want to be a good Sheep and be obedient to God and do all I can to help others see his direction is good also.
I hope this helps you understand.
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That was a rhetorical question.
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To bad you did hit upon the right answer though
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What answer? That we should blindly follow the word of some guy claiming to be the son of god (and God himself) because he thinks he thinks he knows what's best for us? By that logic, we should follow every cult leader.
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God himself said he was his son the day he was baptized. At Matthew 3; 17.
Sheep follow their own master. They don't answer to any other. And There for since I believe the above scripture That states "Look also a voice from heavens said This is my Son the beloved.} It was after Jesus came up from the water baptized.
Jesus being the Son of God is my Sheppard. Seeing how Jesus said at John 6:28 I have come to do not my will but the one who sent me. So Jesus answers to God and We follow and answer to him. Who better to tell us what is best for us than the one God himself said is his son.
No I don't believe we should follow just any person. And many have followed cults. that is the problem We must follow the Bible not man. For in the Bible is Gods words. And if any ones word contradict the bible then they must not be followed. For instance if someone says that they Jesus on back again. Or that they are to interseed for us with prays to God. We pray to God threw Jesus. And There is no other person to go threw.
Because Jesus is God son then we are his sheep.
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So you follow every single rule in the bible?
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Yes to the best of my ability as a imperfect human. Wouldn't you if you knew That Jesus was the True Sheppard!
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Actually, never mind. I don't even care anymore.
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Well, I want to start off by saying, love and all that goes with it ARE biological functions, its true I'll give you that. But two humanoid beings of the same gender CAN actually carry out those functions together (not going to go into details O_o ) and It would NEVER be a waste of logical minds and time to do so if two males wished it. and you can't use logic in this argument, because Vulcans are practically the gods of logic and the way they see it is that love has no gender, discrimination against homosexuality is immoral and illogical.
(also the artist is a spirk fan, so its for Kirk)
whoa, I dropped a paragraph on you... as you can see I get a little defensive about these things
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While I agree that two people of the same gender can love one another as brothers or sisters. In fact Greeks have 4 words for Love, Agape that is Love for human kind. Philia is love for Brothers or sisters. Storge love for ones family. And then Eros Romantic love. Eros is the only form of love not mentioned in the Greek scriptures. So when I said love was for biological use I was talking about Eros of which your picture depicts.
It is not Logical for them to have sexual functions together for it is not natural. That kind of thing would never happen with a logical being because of the fact it is not natural. Yes you can use logic. For it is not logical to have sex up the sewer pipe. Or any other way of un-natural sex. I agree that Kirks character would have sex with anything. Spocks on the other hand wouldn't because it is a biological function.
Let us remove ourselves from Star Trek for the moment. It is not discrimination to Say As a True Christian Homosexuality is immoral and un-natural and condemned by The God who created Male and Female and told Them to be-fruitful and become many This is mentioned in Genesis the first book of the bible. Male + Male =0 children, Female + Female= 0 children. But Male + Female = children. only logical. Also I know it is wrong to have premarital sex. It also is condemned in the bible just as is adultery and thievery and lying. These sins are equally mentioned in the bible as wrong. But if one changes and stops such wrong behavior they can and will be forgiven. I will provide scriptures is you are really interested.
You may or may not believe in the bible it is up to you. This is my belife based on the bible and I am willing to share it with anyone who wants. It is not discrimination to say lie is wrong For we all know it is wrong. So in the same view saying homosexuality is wrong is not discrimination it is a statement of facts. Based on the Bible of which I believe in. As I said earlier that premarital sex is wrong and adultery is wrong. I also live by what I say. I have been married for 27 going on 28 years to the same man. We were both virgins on the day of our wedding. I encourage all my friends to keep themselves clean from this kind of sin also.
No need to be defensive. To share knowledge is good.
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Well, I know a lot of christian people (including me) and I don't see Homosexuality as something immoral, completly wrong, un-natural or punishable thing ._. I've seen you have quoted the Bible a lot so I'd like to know if there is actually a verse where it says that God will condemn Homo people.
In my opinion, I even think thoes couples are cute, they're not afraid to show the world they are different and in love. At least that's my opinion, and I'm also a K/S shipper (and a shipper of plenty slash couples but let's not go into details)
Also, where is the connection between Homosexuality and lying?
And I don't mean to be rude but I think you're kind of pushy :/
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If you have a bible I am all yours for the moment. ! Corinthian 6:9-11 Puts Homosexuals right in the list of those who are not worthy of God Kingdom. Notice other things listed also. That make it equally as wrong.
Romans 1: 26, 27 says God gave them over to uncontrolled sexual passion for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature. Likewise also the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males wit males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full penalty which was due for their error. {See it calls it error sin, Unnatural working what is obscene.} Further on in 28 threw 31 It tells us. they didn't see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a disapproved mental state to do the things not fitting. And filled with all unrighteousness. Wickedness, greed, and badness being full of envy murder strife and deceit and malice being whisperers backbiters haters of God, Insolent , haughty boastful schemers of what is harmful. They are listed with more things that in verse 32 says are deserving of death for they not only keep on doing them but also approve of those practicing them. { We as True Christians should be aware that we shouldn't approve of them or think it is ok for other wise we will be disapproved also.
Revelation 21:8 this one lists those disgusting in their filth and murderers and sexually immoral the Greek word used here is Porniea which is the root word of pornography or Porn. All sexual sins. Romans !: 26 -31 Remember to that in ! Corinthians 6:11 It says that is what some of you were. Hope for those if they change God is loving and wants all to live. But hates wrong doing of which homosexuality is. We must keep Ourselves clean and must not snicker or agree with it. for according to the bible it is wrong.
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Ok so in fact IT IS there, but anyway, at least I think it's not like that. They're two people of the same gender who love eachother. People should start to accept this one way or another because they won't stop existing just because they want to.
Also I agree with Canne that the Bible is outdated, even if people like you follow it (wich is your decision, not saying it's wrong) the rest just don't think like that anymore.
Anyway thanks for taking time to answer my question about quotes.
I see obviously even with all the comments you've been replying you won't change your mind and we won't change ours so I'll cut this conversation right here .-.
Bye!
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Really! If you are a true Christian you would feel that the Bible is Gods word! And God is as it says in Ephesians 4:6 One God one father of all. Knowing this you would know he would never tell you something that is wrong for you or out of date. If a father tells his child don't eat something because it is poison it wouldn't not be poison just because the child has grown up. In fact the At Hebrew 4: 12 says for the word of God is alive and exerts power. and is sharper than a two edged sword. It pierces even to dividing of soul and spirit and the joint from the marrow. It is able to decern thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Is this what you are doing trying to claim you are Christian and not believing, Trying to discredit Christianity by not believing in the Word of all mighty God. God is eternal and so his word applies for his people from the begining even till now. And it can never be out of date! That is a way to say you won't listen to God. And excuse! If and I say if you are a so called Christian are you like the ones mentioned here at Matthew 7:22 Many will say in that day Lord Lord did we not prophocey in you name! Ex spell demo and preform many powerful works in your name? verse 23 further says And I will declare to them. I never knew you. Get away from me you workers of lawlessness. If you reject Gods laws you are lawless in the Biblical scene of the word.
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Excuse me? You can't tell me how true I am to my religion.
Maybe I don't do everything just like the Bible says? Maybe I don't know the whole book by memory as you? (wich, sorry, but I think it's kinda weird) I do believe in God and what he says, but I think I'm able to disagree in some stuff as I am my own person. I'm not even saying I am homosexual, but I think it's ok if others are because it's their life. I was trying to be kind but I never allow people to tell me what I am or what I'm not. You're just so annoying -.-
This was just a drawing of an artist who likes gay people and ships Spirk, and now it has become a debate about religious ethic?! what is wrong with you? ._. geeeeezzz
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! I didn't say you were true to your religion or not. I just said I can't see how you can claim to be Christian if you don't believe the word of god.
If you want to relieve my mind tell me pray tell what on earth you do believe.
It was not overtly homosexual. It was a romance picture. So I commented. Then when some one said they hoped it was for kirk. I said it was illogical. Homosexuality is illogical and so Vulcans wouldn't do it.
Me you asked me first if you don't like it don't ask especially if you don't believe what God says is wrong!
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Well, lying and homosexuality are two COMPLETELY different things, the only way I can connect them is you (and others who share your religion) find it wrong. Which the only fact in that is; It is a fact that most Christians BELIEVE homosexuality is as wrong as lying. Which does not make it a true fact since it is no wrong to other cultures and religions.
I do not find it to be our business what other people do behind their own doors. Just let me say with the whole thing you refer to as 'sex up the sewer pipe' , is it not the an organ that also disposes another kind of human waste entered while a male and female are engaged in sexual intercourse? (I'm just want to let you know, that's rhetorical)
What else I believe on this subject, I will not type, or voice on Deviant Art, because I do not wish to force what I believe upon others. But You continue to believe what you believe, and I shall do the same for what I believe. Of course I completely respect your religion and opinion upon this matter. I wish to disclose this argument.
Sharing knowledge is good, but I do feel that mostly opinions have been stated here
Also even if you do not share the same views as me, I can see that you are a person of somewhat momentous knowledge and strong opinions to go with it. I would like to discus a great many things with you in the future, as an exchange of knowledge. Perhaps we could learn from each other. I still mean on deviant art though. (If you don't decline of course, but I would respect that decision)
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While you may think this is my opinion I assure you it is all things I know are true and based on facts.
What was said about a certain organ {P} did you know that the Urine that comes out is designed to sterilize it due to the high content of ammonia that it has in it. And In this way it was also designed to be a clean environment for the {Testes] to do their job in propagating the human species. There is nothing you can do to make the {A} the solid waste removal organ to make it clean for that kind of contact. Also was designed for that one use and that one use only. Since you respect men of knowledge or people are learned in such things. Surgeon General C Everett Koop in 1988 he targeted Homosexuals sex and the risk of infection through anal sexual intercourse as primary vectors of the disease, health risk for the persons who do that. profiles.nlm.nih.gov/ps/access… This is not to say that any one who has loose morals can't spread disease! But did you know that AIDS was Originally called GRIDS {Gay Related Amino Deficiency Syndrome} It hit the Gay community first. Then it got into the mane populous through Bisexuals who frequented the Homosexual community.Now AIDS it Rampant. And a risk for anyone who have loose morals. Heterosexual or Homosexual. Oral is also wrong because the mouth was designed for eating drinking talking and breathing. It has no sexual organs attached as with the {Anus} Oral is still the main way to acquire herpes which is still a problem and not out of the picture. {Thus our mythical Vulcan friends would never do anything that would spread or risk spreading any disease to the populous. It would be Illogical.}
As fpr the issue of Christian religion belief that lying and homosexuality as being a sin and wrong the scripture I was thinking of list many sins that God sees as being so bad as to keep people from Gods Kingdom.- It starts out with saying here at 1 Corinthians 6: 9-Do not be mislead. Those who are sexually immoral, Idolaters,{ those who worship idols} adulterers{ those who cheat on their mates}, Men who submit to homosexual acts, Men who practice homosexuality. thieves, greedy persons, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners. will not inherit Gods kingdom. But in verse 11 it say that is what some of you were. {Pastence} Saying that once they changed and asked for forgiveness that they were made clean Washed clean it says actually.
In the list of things there are many things and lying and homosexuality being just a couple listed. See to it mentions Sexual immorality and adultery. This shows that sex relations between a heterosexual couple is only right but only if it is a monogamous Heterosexual Married couple. No other sexual activity is approved. Your only other choice is celibacy.
Since I base everything I told you on Truths from Gods Word the Bible and Facts from secular authorities. I don't consider it an opinion but Facts. You can believe it or no. But to me I know it is Truth and Facts and I follow strictly Bible teachings.
{Side note} Vulcans are written in character as having Ponn Farr with their own mates. And they basically practice a form of Celibacy save once every 7 years with their bonded mate. That was how they were written in. And Even though some of the actors who played the characters are homosexuals Shatner and Nemoy were not. Shatner is a well known womanizer {very wrong behavior} And Nemoy is married and likes to take pictures of very large women. {Very weird behavior taking pictures of 300+poundage women naked}
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(Leonard NIMOY, its spelled with an 'I')
I am already aware of how William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are not homosexual. I never stated I believed so, nor did I say I supported Kirk/Spock. I just felt the need to correct you in the assumption that the artist meant to convey that Spock (her version of Spock that is) was not indeed homosexual. (once again I must state her version of Spock, I never said I shared that view upon the real character of Spock)
And yeah, Leonard Nimoy was kind of creepy, taking pictures of women like that... especially at his age.
But about the whole Christianity Bible facts, what may be true for Christians may not be true for others. For there are so many religions, so many ideas of god, what makes you correct? What makes your religion the right one or the real one? what makes others wrong? After all the idea of a single god (you know your GOD) was one of the last religions to develop. Is it not possible that the idea of god came from the idea of the Greek god Zeus? or Buddha? and those who believed in this, added their own opinions and stated this to be the word of God. and then this created idea morphed and changed as it grew slowly, adding on new things as it grew (the problem with stories is that it changes by each person that tells it) until someone decided to write down the end product of it, creating the bible. (I'm not saying I think this is what happened, I'm just giving an example of a possibility)
Also I recall it being said that the bible stated that homosexuality was an abomination, not a sin. and the original definition of 'abomination' was to go against ta Hebrew code of conduct set during that time period.
Also, I can't believe I am having an argument in the comments area. So I shall desist this (please do the same, not to be rude or anything) Because I know if I continue this argument may never end. (because I have this skill/curse that I could argue about one thing for days upon days)
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Well you may think so But I believe my God Jehovah Created the Earth and everything in it. You are welcome to believe different. I believe What John 17:3 says This means everlasting life, There coming to know you the only true God and the one whom you sent Jesus Christ. This is why I want to help people to get to Know him and Love him. No other Religion Christian or Pegan has the sayings of everlasting life on a paradise earth. We are the only ones I am a Jehovah's Witness. But if you don't want to talk further to me. So be it. I actually thought we were having an exchange of knowledge not an argument. Oh well so be it. It was nice talking to you. Have a nice day!
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It is not that I do not wish to talk further to you, It is just I believe I have attained enough information to understand yours and countless other's views upon this. I grow weary of the same discussion (though I did appreciate our conversation and what I have gotten from it) and wish to move on to a different subject if the opportunity arises, and maybe one day finish this discussion.
I have found our exchanges of knowledge to be both enlightening and interesting. I look forward to similar exchanges upon a variety of subjects in the future.
I also must apologize for the use of the word 'argument' at the time it was the only word I saw fitting, I realize now that was a poor choice of words.
I wish you a pleasant day, and luck with spreading your teachings upon others.
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This is a good thing. You know we already have a lot in common. We are artists and enjoy depicting feelings we like. We are both Star Trek fans. What if we talk about that. We know that in the StarTrek universe that some things are not compatible with true science. Like for right now there is no such thing as warp drive and I heard it called Chunky salsa drive once.
What we see in Star Trek that is most compelling is the fact that. The Humans for the most part are at peace with each other and many other species. That there is excellent health that can be had by all not just a few rich.
What would you like to see happen in the future that Star Trek holds dear. I think mine is peace between species. {For to me. Humans are one species no races for we are all children of one mother and father proven by genetics done during the human genome project. This might just be a subject we can talk about if you like.
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I'm with you on peace between species, even if that hasn't been a problem, since we haven't met any other species (if you meant humanoid species that is) also I would really love it if NASA expanded and created Starships for exploration, instead of people going to the moon and back, or other planets. But actually kept going and reported their findings instead of coming back to earth. (so basically make Starfleet)
Chunky salsa drive?
(this may sound kind of random, and of subject) But ever thought about what would happen if as we evolve become more intelligent and change in ways to fit our new life styles and intellect, that the animals around us will too? I mean I know that might happen far in the future, but in what way is my question. sorry if that's of topic its just when I watch star trek I think of these kind of things.
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Whole I think it would be wonderful to travel the stars. And Who knows what will happen. Lets face it since I believe in creation I always wondered who God created all those lovely planets and stars were for.
I some how get the feeling that we will be taking animals and planet of our world and transforming as we go.
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