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Carlbunkle — WIP - The Shadow Behind
Published: 2006-10-13 12:43:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 378; Favourites: 1; Downloads: 7
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I made several changes on this, but posted the new design in a different page.I tried to colour it too. It still in progress.
Original sketch for those who want to see the progress from the beginning.
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Hmm.... sekarang cahayanya dari mana dulu baru bisa dibikin kasar bayangannya mau ditaruh mana. Hmm... right hand to small compared to the left. Somehow, he kind a look to big compared to the space he sat on the corner. Since you put crack on the left wall, maybe you should add it to on the right wall... Hey! The details are amazing
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thank you xD takut detail nya berlebihan soalnya beberapa juga ngomong gitu 
akh... iya gambarnya rada kepotong, itu cahaya mustinya datang dari kiri bawah; dari lilin2. Bingung nya gitu.. karena dari bawah... dan dari lilin... cahaya nya bakal nyebar2 dan panjang dan makin gelap semakin jauh ?
Soalnya cahayanya rendah banget dan deket tembok ><
Wih proporsi tangannya juga aneh ya... kiri dan kanan beda besarnya ><
aih... bener2 musti ikutin suggestion RedLina... carl rencana mo gambar ulang badannya tapi mulai lagi dari basic skeleton/flesh nya...
proporsi anaknya dan ruangan.... hmmm boleh dicoba tuh aku resize.. and see what it looks like...(or perhaps resize the crack?)
actually I already put some cracks on the right wall too... but got overlapped by those monsters >< probably should make another one that looks more obvious
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Cahaya lilin kan pendar, jadi paling cuma bikin glow di sekeliling gak terlalu terang seperti cahaya utama.
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Mm...I really dunno Carlbunkle... Maybe you should draw him without sleeves and pants and see how the muscles should be...then add clothes... I really can't help you more...
But I must say..that shadow's coming out great!
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Akh! Back to basic~
I'll try to do that.
Thank you~ xD
its like making the naked version o_O;;;
eeewwww >3<
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lol...yeah..but it's effective... 
you're welcome! always a pleasure.
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My first reaction was
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O_O
Keep up the awesomeness!! ^_^
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hahaha xP
it's a good reaction right? thank you XD
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Wow! Wicked shadow!
I'd say that except for the feet which still look a bit too short and thin, it's a kickass drawing my friend! Can't wait to see colours on this!
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Thank you!
Yeah, several other people point the weirdness of the feet as well T^T
have to fix that~
Soon I have time to spent on this piece again xD
just 1 more week before all assignments finish~
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Yeah, I know what you mean... I want to finish with school projects too so I can get a little more free time...but after that it's finals (semestrial) so I dunno when I have the time...
'Bout the feet...Keep trying... I'm sure you'll get it right in the end... Maybe make them a bit more thicker? And a bit longer. Coz if your spine is arched and you're sitting in that position, your feet reach your chin... try that position and see for yourself. That's the best advice I can give ya!
Good luck and good work!
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ooooh... I've tried the pose, and it is true!
Last time I tried the pose, I didn't arched my spine~ that is why it ends up like that.
Thanks for the advices ^^
Good luck with your finals too!!!
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Oh. My. Goodness.The details on this are RIDICULOUS. Great job.
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love the concept of this image. I agree with dnbdjq45.
As for personal critique, I think where the main part of the shadow is sticking out of the wall over the boy looks a bit flat, Given that you made it a shadow, giving it details hinting that it iscoming out of the wall contradict each other. Personally I'd go with the coming out of the wall rather than making it purely a shadow. for now that's as simple as getting rid of the corner going through the arm/head of the shadow, making it look more solid as an entity, rather than a drawing on a wall.
His pants look pretty cool, umm... the creases behind his knees, I have no idea of the proper terminology <_<;; shouldn't have creases so high (close to the front of the knee)
His back is a great technical example of creases, however on the pants it looks like you put creases there for the sake of putting creases... rework the legs and find references. With his legs bent there shouldn't be creases distributed evenly, rather.. less but in more intensity at certain points.
I'm definitely looking forward to the final product, It's looking really cool so far!
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Thank you for the c&c!
You got good points there. I still haven't erase the wall lines, it helps me know which wall part is the left or right for the moment and ofcourse to know which part connects with the floor.
And what you were saying is right, cause everytime I hide the wall lines, the monsters look more "coming out".
The leg part still bothers me up to now, and I left it as it is to finish the shadow part first. But now that you mention it, I might try to change the creases, might solve the leg part including the knees. (I might need to start looking for L or N pictures for reference, since he's crouching most of the time)
Another problem is, since it has too much details of the shadow area, does it confuse you or it just looks weird/ugly/distasteful? One might say it is too much. (Cause I'm thinking of reducing the detail)
I'm really scared on how to colour this piece when I finish the outline x_x
ps: L and N are from Death Note, but you might already know that xP
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Your mind looks like it's geared more towards lineart than colouring so I'm not sure what to say about the colouring... All I can say is that I like the detail, and think you should keep it, however if you're not confident enough at your level, save the clean lineart and colour it when you're more proficient.
Looking forward to the finished product 
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Yeah.. I'm still not confident enough in colouring... should ask more pencafe friends for this ><
I'll try to finish it when my assignments are done.
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Ilustrasi tuh yg penting kesan n pesannya masuk. Menurutku sih lanjut aja ^ ^ Takutnya, gara2 carl sibuk mikirin detail, hal2 besarnya justru terlupakan.
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wah, benar juga!
Soalnya tiap kali liat gambar sendiri, selalu ada perasaan "something wrong"...
>.<
Tapi emang ini benernya aimnya buat latihan proporsion, selain buat menyampaikan pesan/kesan juga.
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Hmm komentar gw teknikalnya aja kali yah, menurut penglihatanku:
Garis lantai/temboknya terlalu nempel seakan karakternya kemakan tembok (atau memang itu konsepnya?) jadi mungkin bisa dikasih jarak sedikit, tapi karena gw nggak pernah belajar perspektif, nggak tau cara betulinnya.
'Sehelai besar' rambutnya di bagian tengah terkesan terlalu kaku, coba dibuat lebih tipis atau 'smooth'
Hmm kaki kanannya (daerah lutut ke pergelangan) terlihat sedikit aneh. Mungkin dengan lebih banyak lipatan di daerah bawah, dan hindari bentuk lurus outline luar kakinya itu.
Fufufu kerasa emo sekali. Jangan lupa kasi bekas-bekas kotor di lantai sekitar, terutama deket mainan kereta dan robot. Segitu dulu kalih ^^
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waw.. thank you thank you xD
iya nih, untuk garis lantai/tembok udah ganti angle nya beberapa kali...
Pengennya bikin kesan si bocah cengeng lagi senderan... tapi sulid tanpa shading...
awal kali gambar juga ngga terlalu pikirin titik horizon dll...
Let see what I can do about it...
Rambut yang di tengah ya... ditipisin, gotcha... (udah kayak tukang jaga toko gini hahahha, seperti nerima orderan)
ya nih, kaki ngga cuman yang kanan doang yang aneh, yang kiri juga... dari kemaren berjam2 utak utik, ngga puas2... selalu something 'wrong'
hahaha sangat emo
rencana mau bikin bruises kalo perlu baju rada sobek2? rambut di acak2 dikit >.o tapi... ngga jadi... hahahha... entar di bikin lebih kotor... thank you lho diingat kan xD
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Hmm menurut gw sih garis lantai/tembok dan kaki juga bakal beres pas di CG. Atau mungkin kalau 'ketelen' bakal keliatan lebih bagus konsep surealisnya?
LOL nggak usah sampai bruises gitu, ntar jadinya malah macabre bukan emo
Ilustrasi tuh yg penting kesan n pesannya masuk. Menurutku sih lanjut aja ^ ^ Takutnya, gara2 carl sibuk mikirin detail, hal2 besarnya justru terlupakan.
Fufufu, setuju juga. Yang penting itu hasil pertandingan bukan detail -shot-
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Maksudnya, meski semua aspek sempurna secara detail secara teknikal, belum tentu pesan dan kesan yang ingin kita bawa melalui sebuah ilustrasi bisa tersampai dengan sempurna.
Hasil pertandingan: Hasil yang ingin dicapai, kebawa-bawa yang diskusi notes LOL
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hohoho...
yup yup agree with that...
yah... makanya pesan/kesan semua tergantung pengirim dan penerima...
sempurna ku blom tentu sempurna di tempat mu....
dengan asking feedback to fix things that several people point out bisa aat least mencapai (mendekati) 'kesempurnaan' for both party... tapi in the end tetep yang must eksekusi ya aku sendiri...
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Jadi kurang lebih, itulah fungsi dari menunjukkan WIP~
Semangat!
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ok...i checked out the link to the other sketch...
i like the concept and what u got going...
the character look fine, not like a girl or anything like that.
the face and pose of the torso looks good to me...the only thing is what lina said about the legs...
if you extend the legs out a bit and touch up the left arm(mainly the forearm area) and have it "wrap" around the legs you'll get the desired look your going for...everything else looks sweet 
**looking at the photoshop screen, envying of you cause your using photoshop****
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Thank you for the feedback!!
Yeah, I've been messing up with the legs a bit.
I asked several other friends via msn... got several nice feedback...
I'll post the update soon...
ps: I got discount for photoshop cause I'm a student xP and my mom bought it for me when I entered college. So...it still photoshop 7 tho... Dunno what the different with Photoshop CS... Why don't you buy one?
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im trying to find it real cheap...dont want to pay
400 jr bacon cheeseburgers for it
i tried downloading PS cs2 but it said the file was corrupted....i'll look into PS 7...
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Just updated xD
Akh! My friend used to buy pirated ones from Asian countries...
And he shared it to me... pity that I can't use his Photoshop CS installer since my mac doesn't recognise the dvd T^T
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Aww... poor kid... no, I don't think his pose is feminine, and his face is just childish, not feminine per say... I like it. His pose says - hey I'm scared and sad, help? 
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yay... a comment!!!
I'm touched ;_;
Oah, I'm happy that you think his pose and face looks as intended...
My cousin said he looks like a girl.. soo I'm worried...
The legs a bit odd.. somehow, yeah.. but I'm not sure myself...
There's no one at my home with the same age with this boy to be my real life reference @_@
Anyway since you point it out, I'll try to fix it!
thanks for the feedback <3
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You're welcome... and don't worry.. usually anime-ish characters can easily be confounded. So no biggie. It's just the style
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Yeah, anime has more lenient on proposion and stuff...
But still... it looks weird... although its not major.
I'll update soon, on what I have changed so far...
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Just updated xD
Somehow the legs still look weird T^T
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Gah..I'm sorry if you don't get a thing out of what I've written...English is so not my first language, lol.
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Hm... maybe you should make them weigh more... They seem to stiff...like they don't weigh a thing... If they had normal leg weight the left ankle would touch the floor, that would make the sole of the foot more arched... And you should try to make them take shape... They're too straight... The arm too... Still can't wait how it turns out
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ah! I just woke up 
sorry for the late response...
Ah, I get what you mean. I'll try to fix it again
Again, thanks
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You're welcome!
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