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The Fourth Doctor confronts the 'Charlie Brown Effect'.Doctor Who, Torchwood, and all related, copyright BBC
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darksporechild [2009-07-16 22:33:26 +0000 UTC]
:ROFL: Nice. Reminds me a bit of the comic with Beep the Meep where K9 gets his memory and identity circuits mixed up and says something like "Back away or I'll slit your throat from ear to ear!" prompting the Doctor to remind K9 he's not Leela...he spends the rest of the comic thinking he's a cat.
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Carthoris In reply to darksporechild [2009-07-16 23:32:01 +0000 UTC]
Wait, you mean he's *not*?
Instead of K-9, he could be.... KIT-10!
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darksporechild In reply to Carthoris [2009-10-08 23:55:36 +0000 UTC]
*the PUNch to the stomach feeling* exactly the same joke in the comic!
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darksporechild In reply to darksporechild [2009-07-16 22:34:47 +0000 UTC]
XD oops I meant Stupid thing needs to lose the case-sensitivity...
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Carthoris In reply to aoifesart [2009-02-01 13:41:04 +0000 UTC]
Why, I thank you.
More are planned.
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aoifesart In reply to Carthoris [2009-02-01 21:26:42 +0000 UTC]
The picture really made my laugh out loud...I LOVE it!
In that case I'm curious and watch you because Peanuts + Doctor Who = WIN!
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Carthoris In reply to aoifesart [2009-02-02 00:41:19 +0000 UTC]
And, I shall watch you, as well.
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mbc12-5-58 [2008-12-31 21:34:31 +0000 UTC]
If you go to the Outpost Gallifrey episode guides, and check the story reviews for the eps Adric appeared in, you won't find much love for Mr. Waterhouse's thespian skills. The Alzarian math-whiz isn't high on my list of favorite companions, but still....
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Carthoris In reply to mbc12-5-58 [2008-12-31 23:31:36 +0000 UTC]
I read an interview with Lalla Ward , and she states that he was NOT a fun person to work with; maybe that's why his character was eventually killed off.
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cheriluvs10 [2008-11-13 14:52:36 +0000 UTC]
LMAO!!! Snoopy-9! I can just see him on his Sophwith TARDIS fighting the Red Baron
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Carthoris In reply to cheriluvs10 [2008-11-14 02:16:08 +0000 UTC]
Inspired lunacy has it's benefits.
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DarkPhoenix975 [2008-05-18 20:30:39 +0000 UTC]
Adorable. Absolutely adorable. Funny thing is even my boyfriend knew what the pic was and he never watches Doctor Who, even the old ones. Personally I think he only recognized it because I have been watching a lot of the Fourth Doctor lately.
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Carthoris In reply to DarkPhoenix975 [2008-05-19 20:53:23 +0000 UTC]
Hey, anything to convert the non-watchers!
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Captain-Chaotica [2008-05-01 06:00:42 +0000 UTC]
(snickers) Truly adorable. And I notice you drew Four in his 1980-season outfit (red coat, red-and-purple scarf, and the question marks have appeared on the collar). Interesting.
(Not that I'm saying it _means_ anything, just, interesting to see somebody draw him in something other than the traditional brown and tan and red and blue and green etc. scarf...)
...Notorious
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Carthoris In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2008-05-02 00:01:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you.
I'm thinking of knitting one for winter this year; the purple & red doesn't get nearly enough love.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to Carthoris [2008-05-02 02:38:18 +0000 UTC]
That's the season I'm watching right at the moment, actually. Heh. Adric just recently showed up. It's quite amusing seeing him with the others, 'cos even _Romana_ (Two) towers over him. In flats.
And you realise something interesting--technically at that point _everybody_ on the TARDIS is non-human. Two Gallifreyans, an Alzarian and a robot dog.
Of course, as it comes to knitting, I don't know how to knit anything at all. If I want a Doctor Who scarf, the one I got from the supermarket (yes, really) that's about 9 feet long with hot pink and orange stripes will have to do for now. Heh.
Well, it's long enough for the ends to come down past my knees when it's wrapped around my neck, at least...but then again I am very short.
Anyway.
...Notorious
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GaiaMIX In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2015-07-30 11:34:13 +0000 UTC]
Nobody would be human... until Tegan turns up and enters the TARDIS that is. And even then she'll be the only human on the TARDIS. Nyssa's from Traken and Turlough's from Trion. (And Kamelion is a shapeshifting robot) Yet they and Adric don't look alien-y. Nyssa and Adric look like 13th grade students dressed up for a play just before the start of summer, and Turlough looks like a college student whose classmates dyed his hair orange while he was asleep. (Well, Sarah was 19, Matthew was 18, and Mark was 24.)
Then after Turlough we only got humans... except Astrid Peth but she was in a christmas special and just looked like Kylie Minogue gueststarring in too much makeup and a waitress\maid dress.
Well and Vastra and Strax who aren't full time companions.
If I was showrunner for Doctor Who, I'll make one Doctor have three companions who are aliens who don't look much human, or something. Or maybe an elf, or Atlantean, or something.
BTW I'm making sims version of kid!Team Fivey. Already made Nyssa Adric and Tegan now gonna make Turlough and Kamelion and also Fivey himself. And Tardisia V (or whatever I call her) who is raising them and is kind-of a projection of the TARDIS.
And I'm gonna post them on my Classic Who sidetumblr - preteenfrecklynyssa.
Or maybe maybe I could even make a simblr named "Doctor Who sims" or something.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to GaiaMIX [2015-08-10 12:40:17 +0000 UTC]
Oh, yeah, I would totally have at least one non-human (who also doesn't look it) Companion, and/or somebody from Earth, but a different time period (ala Jamie or Zoe). Probably wouldn't be able to get away with having both at _once_, but every little bit counts.
I also really appreciate aliens who are truly _alien_. Which is why I love things like, say, the Green Lantern Corps, or its spiritual predecessor, the Lensmen. (In those books, any _actual_ aliens you run into tend to look NOTHING AT ALL like humans. If you run into someone who is, say, blue-skinned and eight feet tall, they aren't a human-like alien--they ARE a human. They're just a human from a colony world where we adapted to a very different environment.)
Or at least where they look humanish, but have different health needs and/or percieve the world very differently. Someone from another entire dimension/universe who is not even quite used to our laws of physics, say, or someone who is only comfortable in what we would consider winter temperatures. Or they need to eat/drink something odd to survive, or...
In other words, sci-fi is _fun_.
As for Sims, omg, the kid-Fivey team sounds _so adorable_. I used to have a fair number of Doctor Who Sims myself, but when I had to reinstall my game recently on my new(ish) computer, I accidentally wiped out ALL MY SAVEDGAMES AND ALL MY CUSTOM DOWNLOADS. Gah! No, I'm not kidding. However, I have managed to get _most_ of my old stuff back, and am in the process of repopulating my neighborhoods. Or at least putting my _favourite_ old Sims back in.
Also some new ones--I've recently made Eleven, Amy, Rory, River, Twelve and Clara. I don't know how well they turned out, but they are at least recognisable (to fans). Heh.
...Notorious
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GaiaMIX In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2015-08-10 17:28:16 +0000 UTC]
Me too. Teams of people from different eras (like one from the past and one from the future, a la Jamie + Zoe) and also teams of aliens. There may be an human in midst of the team of aliens (like Tegan back in Fivey's era) or a team with no humans in it (and presumably no Timelords\Gallifreyans, either.) If Adric and Nyssa and Turlough looked human they might just be human. (Well, them being human-looking aliens who evolved from marshpeople who evolved from plant-spiders is kinda the whole point of Adric's species. But nothing says that the Trionites cannot instead just be an human culture from the far-future in another planet. Or that Tremas and Nyssa cannot just be a random pair of human father and teenage daughter in 1980's British Isles or America or wherever, named "Anthony and Lisa\Nancy\Sarah Tremas" - or whatever. She could even still be named Nyssa as an human, since Peri's name is actually Perpugilliam.)
And yeah, the aliens would have completely diff. habits and stuff they have to eat and do.
Actually I think the Doctor does'nt have to be necessarily human-ish, too. Maybe green or blue skin or hair or some weird markings.
Yeah, it was adorable. Actually I saw your DW sims, I frequented your old site a lot. (the one with all the legacies in it and stuff. You don't update it anymore, right?) And yeah, I did do them, but well, apparently I cannot raise sim kids well (At least not when they're that many... Or maybe I'm more used to TS3?) so yeah.
Actually I'm thinking to make another "Whoniverse 'hood" this time a multi-era one. (Possibly including people such as Warrior & Cinder, or Eight's canonized audio companions. But I don't think I will include ALL EU and sticking with televised for the other Doctor's. Well, I could do a sim of the Moment that's basically a scruffier, tomboy-er wolfgirl Rose with a diff personality.)
BUT well, I have Family Safety so I have to go to the admin account to go get quite a few CC, and I want to organize myself with MaxisMatchy CC and stuff before having a "serious" 'hood like that.
And by that time I'll have Windows 10 by then and propably TS2 does'nt work on there...
And yes, an 'hood like that will prolly be "Notorious" or somethin'. But I don't know if I will actually play that for much.
And I want to see what you will do with your 11 and 12 era sims. (BTW I consider Danny and Courtney to be 12 era companions. The Ian and Susan to Clara's Barbara. But maybe maybe since Danny teaches math and not science and ends up dead, maybe Danny's the Adric to Courtney's Nyssa and Clara's Tegan, too. Right? Maybe I should'nt compare companions like that at all? Is Danny Pink even a companion (and its thus disgraceful to compare Ian and Adric to him)? Wait, if the Mastermistress ends up taking Dave Oswald's body in some point of the series then maybe Clara is actually the Nyssa then and Courtney the Tegan?)
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to GaiaMIX [2015-08-11 12:50:08 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that last part was...HA. Way too much at once! Blew...mind...
But yes, I _do_ consider Danny a Companion, if only a sometime one. The only reason I didn't make him...yet...to join in with the Twelve "family" was I couldn't remember his clothes well enough to pick something even vaguely iconic/recognisable from a distance for him. Heck, I had a hard time with Clara. (She _has_ a Style, it's just kinda hard to pin down.) And SimTwelve's outfit is not his proper one, it's just a slightly old-fashioned dark suit I had that looked good enough. Frankly, if anybody HAS made proper Sims of the newest characters, they're probably for at least 3 instead of 4 so I guess I probably _have_ to improvise. Ah well. My mom instantly got who he was at a glance, so that's something.
Actually I did find an OMGAMAZING one for Clara...in Sims 3. Which I have nowhere near as much cool custom stuff for so I'd be playing mainly just regular Sims and not Sims that are, ya know, established _characters_, so it'd be nowhere near as much fun. Also I'm not sure my computer could handle it with all the expansion packs, or at least all the ones I want. Which is why I'm still sticking with 2, and thank GOD, my new...er computer can still play it on Windows 7 just fine!
As for Nyssa passing for an ordinary name...haha! I KNOW somebody named Nyssa! Well, I used to, our families haven't been in touch in a long-ass time. She was the one of seven kids of this big family that I got along the best with, and ALL OF THEM WERE NAMED AFTER DOCTOR WHO COMPANIONS. Only with the names that can pass for normal, so it was _stealth_-fanboyism. Heheheh.
(And if you want sci-fi names that CAN'T pass for normal, I also know a K'ehlyr, who is probably in, what, her 20s by now? Wonder how she turned out...)
Hmmm...haven't actually _done_ much with my Eleven and Twelve Sim-families, yet, because I'm still in the depressing process of trying to put my favourite characters back in, and I keep getting distracted by ooh, shiny! Haven't tried THIS challenge yet!--and starting _new_ characters instead.
ANYway, the last time I saw the Eleven and Twelve households, I do believe Clara was hitting on the adorable '80s nerdboy that I intend for someone else, and they were entertaining TRON/Legacy characters over at their house for tea. (Technically programs shouldn't eat, but they're ALL simulations eating simulated food, so hey.) Also Eleven wants to be best friends with Stella Terrano--or is he already? I can't remember.
...I love my neighborhoods.
My Legacies and such are not dead!--just...resting. But not pining for the fjords. I have a new Sims site--which is actually my old one--and they live on! I don't think I've finished putting up links to the old stuff on the new site yet, but it totally still exists. It's here . (And it seems I...haven't done a proper page with it. Whoops. Well, at least everything is reachable from the list.)
The poor, poor Williamses. Yes, I am totally going to go back to them!--although they'll probably look a bit different since I have to redo them from memory. This'll be the THIRD TIME they've been brought back from digital oblivion! (Hey, have you heard my New Wave band, "Digital Oblivion"? That has GOT to already be a real band name somewhere.) But I'm definitely interesting in continuing their story, if only to find out what the Bitch Twins from Hell that are both, ironically, named after super_heroes_ turn out like. Also, FOURTH GENERATION, BABY!
As for more Who stuff, I would LOVE to, say, put in Evelyn Smythe as a Sim. But I need to finish re-doing my previous WhoSims! I will probably--though I hate her--put Rose back in as her normal self...and then watch her turn out to be _way_ more likeable as a Sim, yet again, no matter how bitchy I try to make her personality. (For starters, she was madly in love with Mickey and didn't even _glance_ at Ten. Ha ha.) I mean, my Sim of _Ebony Freaking Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way_ turned out adorable for pete's sake.
Anyway. I LOVE having these intelligent, digging-in, overthinky types of fannish conversations, so reply away!
...Notorious
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GaiaMIX In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2015-08-12 17:26:54 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, it kinda was. BTW if what I write below seems a bit forced, or "scurry"\fastened, is because I was writing some long thing, then I ran away, came back, and somehow DA was on the front page. I might have clicked on a button inadvertently.
1: Yes, I do consider Danny to be a companion, too. Maybe Twelve's companions will be somewhat "Mix and Match" in a way. Feasibly including quite a few of the Doctor's previous Companions. I would also like to see a Doctor travelling with another of himself as a companion. The closest we've had is Jackson Lake, and he's well- an human who THOUGHT he was the Doctor, and turned out to just be Jackson Lake. (Also this means he'll have about 4-6 full-term companions - with one or two one-offs - per season with no TARDIS-overcrowding.)
2: I actually think Danny may not just be the Ian and Adric of Twelve's era, but also the Ben to Clara's Polly. Ben was poor, skeptical, and down-to-earth. Polly was rich, eccentric\less serious, and more supportive of TARDIS\Doctor-related weirdness. Danny's role is to ground Clara more into reality. Put Ian, Adric, and Ben in a blender, and you've basically got something a lot like Danny Pink.
3: Danny does have a "iconic outfit". www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-conte…
4: From what have I seen, Clara's outfits have a lot of black and dark blue (red for the Echos) usually leggings, either boots or Mary Jane shoes, and knee lenght dresses or shirts. Never pants, although culottes or skort's might work. images.amcnetworks.com/bbcamer… Also a lot of patterns and suchs. Since it's mostly dark colors it could be called a bit goth-y. Actually the shoes are stompy boots\wedges (or something?) so it may work. Actually, I bet that if these outfits had regular boots (presumably dark brown) and had a lighter-blue and brown color schemes, Sarah Jane would wear them. Sarah was somewhat more "vintage girly\childlike" though, right?
5: You can recolor stuff in TS3, even if it's not the exact clothing at least you may find something that fits the style, I managed to have passable Pokémon and Kingdom Hearts sims by just recoloring basegame clothing and giving them fitting traits and favorites and voices. And I bet that in 5 or 10 years, TS3 will have about as much cool content as TS2 does now.
6: Oh, what were the other 6 siblings called? Were all 7 of them each named after a diff. Classic Who companion from each era, because if so it would've been cool. BTW I think any of the Companion's names can sound normal. Nobody calls their children Perpugilliam but Peri\Perry can be short for anything that begins with "Per". And it can also be a name that does'nt stand for anything and is just Peri\Perry with a middle name. (Actually I won't be surprised if BBC or Michael Grade or whoever actually has Perpugilliam trademarked and nobody else can use that name for a fictional character legally.) The weirdest\most obviously sci-fi ones would be, like, naming a child Adric or Vislor. (Hi-Fi, K9, and Kamelion are more like pet\robot names.)
BTW you made me think of an AU in which Tegan is an alien crashlanded on Earth (Teigan? Teegain? Or even still Tegan?) while Fivey, Adric, Nyssa, and Turlough are human. Or should I say... Peter Five, Adrian Dirac, Nyssa Tremas, and Victor Turlough? Or whatevs.
7: I think the intention for Star Trek K'ehlyr (who is half-human and has a quarter-human son named Alexander) is that the name could be "inglecisized" into something like Kelly or Claire or Carlie or Callie. And anyway you'd think a three-quarter Klingon kid would have a Klingon-type name anyway. Like Aelexir or Allaxirin or whatever else. Or maybe it's just possible that Alexander also happens to be a name in Klingon although maybe a rare one. Or that there are several Alexander's on K'ehlyr 's human side of the family.
8: Okay. BTW, is Stella Terrano still at uni, right? Since you've just restarted et al.
9: Ah, I've actually put that in my favorites. Sometimes I'll take time to read a bit of it.
10: Yeah, that could be a good band name. But even then, "Kaiko Espurr Mikkusu" and "Captain Chaotica" could be band names even if they seem like more names for one person. Maybe it could be like one of those band where the band name is also the singer's stage name. And then the back-up band gets yet another name, like Marylin Manson AKA Brian Warner part of the Marilyn Manson band but also calls himself that and the back-up band is also the Scary Kids. Same for Alice Cooper. Or Marina and the Diamonds - the singer Marina Diamandis calls herself Marina on first-name-basis and also "Marina and the Diamonds" is technically also her stage name of sorts, and both Marina's fans and her back-up band are called the Diamonds. (And that's just a meter away from just having an uncopyrighted stage name that's also your legal name either by birth or deed pool or whatever.)
11: Yeah! Hellspawn named after superheroes and fourth generations of legacies! Although I'd make my own legacies in a separate 'hood named "Legacytown". And that would include seven-toddler raising challenges, and Queen Bee challenges, among with regular legacies and ISBI legacies. Maybe even a Doctor Who or Steven Universe or whatever themed one.
12: Well, I'd like to make the simmies the "chronological" way, so Evelyn could be simmed way WAY before Rose. I could even have TWO Rose's - Rose Tyler and Moment!Rose. (Actually I once daydreamed that I had two Billie Piper sims, one was regular Rose the other the Moment. And that they were in a lesbian relationship. Yes I ship Rose\Moment.)
13: Yeah, sometimes sims turn out NOTHING like they're suppose to be. And anyway, was'nt Rose going steady with Mickey at the very start of NuWho? So... It's even possible that two sims from diff. eras get together, or they get with Premades or townies or sims from other fandoms.
14: Is'nt Enoby Egogy Evory suppose to be nice to goffs and mean to preps, anyway? I always thought it was like that. She's basically a much dumber, goffier, up-to-eleven version of Bella Swan, right? Wait, there are these kinds of mispelled trollfics in every fandoms, right? There's propably a Classic Who and New Who ones, too.
15: I'll always reply to you and you'll always reply to me, I bet.
16: Do you always have to end your posts with "Notorious"? Is that a signature or something? Is that what you want me to call you? Is that your middle name? Robin Notorious Chesterfield? (to not confuse with Chesterton, Chatterton, Chesterwick, etc.)
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to GaiaMIX [2015-08-13 15:01:01 +0000 UTC]
Oh, TELL me about it. I cannot even begin to remember _how_ many times, back in the bad old dialup days, I would lose something I had been working on for a long time. My WebTV was a _nightmare_, considering it had no hard drive so _you couldn't save partial messages to finish later_. And then there's all the times I've gone to hit CapsLock to emphasise a word, accidentally hit Enter instead and sent something that cut off mid-sentence...
So, basically, I feel your pain. Having to re-write an entire long thing again from memory, when you're now tired of it, frustrated, bored, and don't want to do it anymore 'cos you just did? Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.
It's pretty darn unlikely they'd actually have the Doctor travel with a previous self on the show...considering the furthest-back Doctor they got for the freaking _50th Anniversary Special_ was David Tennant. However, that would be an awesome idea for a radio show. Of course, there's also the fact that the Doctor is always _so_ egotistical, NO version of him would EVER consider himself to be the "companion" of the other. I mean, you can just see it, can't you...
SIX: Sidekick? Sidekick? SIDEKICK?! If anything YOU'RE the sidekick!
TWELVE: This is _my_ TARDIS, and when you're in my TARDIS you follow my rules!
SIX: It was my TARDIS first!
CLARA: Gentlemen, PLEASE! I have never SEEN such a case of testosterone poisoning! (and yes, I sorta ripped that off from Ivanova.)
Travel with as an equal, sure. I think the closest you're going to get to Doctor-has-himself-as-a-Companion is travelling with a _different_ Time Lord, and of course that'd be Romana. But I'd LOVE if he found another one in the new series. Besides the Master.
I can _kinda_ see the whole Ben-and-Polly/Dan-and-Clara thing...I never really stopped to think deeply about the newest Companions in terms of the old ones. (Well, except for occasionally thinking Clara kinda _looks_ like Victoria. Especially when she's got certain outfits or hairdos on.) And thank you for the picture of Danny's outfit! I knew basically what he wore, but I was having a hard time picturing a _specific_ look well enough in my head to try and copy it. Now that I have that, I can _try_ to find an outfit closeish to it, but I'm not sure what I have...
As for Clara, I do recall thinking, when I was making her Sim, of skirts, coloured tights, and patterns, so I have probably at least gotten _something_ right. I'm not sure about the shoes--and remember, in Sims 2 you can't pick the footwear seperately from the rest of the bottom--but I'm pretty sure I went for something sensible/clunky, not, like, dainty stilletos.
Yeah, you can recolour stuff in Sims 3, and I LOVE Create-A-Style. It's awesome. Sometimes you do need a different _shape_ to start off with, though, and that's where the custom stuff comes in. Or doesn't. I occasionally see people posting stuff with REALLY cool spot-on custom Sims from 3, but when you read further down the thread to see if they posted where they got them from, it turns out to be a dead link. Ah well.
I...don't remember what the other six siblings were called, unfortunately. I haven't seen anybody from that family in a long time. Sure you can make any Companion's name sound "normal" if you try, but since this was a pretty normal-normal mundane conservative Mormon family, I have a feeling only the ones that already sounded like REALLY ordinary names would've been used. So, like, Ben, Sarah, James, etc. I think only the dad was a Whovian and the mom wasn't, so she'd probably only agree to names from Who that would seem like they weren't from anything "weird" unless you knew.
Anyway, that AU about Tegan being an alien on Earth etc. sounds interesting. You should totally write about that. I have ideas for Whofics from time to time, but it's usually just like, a scene, rather than a whole story.
I assume Alexander just has the human name...which is weird 'cos Keh'lyr named him. If it was _Worf_ who did that, I could see him being named after somebody from his human adoptive family. And probably the real-life Keh'lyr I know was called Kelly...I don't know, I only heard about her being born and named that, and then met her briefly as a little kid at a Christmas party, and then that family moved away and joined another Star Trek club. I think.
Stella Terrano _is_ still at Uni...in all the neighborhoods besides Desiderata Valley. I made a new character (the aforementioned '80s nerd) to try out my new custom majors and see if they were working, and she came with. I've hardly done anything with that neighborhood and wanted to start populating it with interesting characters. That's also where Eleven and Twelve's teams and the TRON people are.
And then there's band names where it's the name of the group, but everybody assumes it applies only to the lead singer. See: "Blondie is a GROUP!" for example. Heh.
As for legacies...I don't know if I'm ever going to finish any of mine, because it's so daunting whenever I have to go and re-do everything. Also, I have a shortish attention span and am only in the mood for the Sims _sometimes_, and then, I often want to make a new character I just thought of instead of playing the old ones. Lemme tell ya, you're gonna be in for some frustration reading my Legacy stories because I have SEVERAL I never finished, or in some cases, never really _intended_ to do that much with.
But yes, I have gotten to the fourth generation of the Williamses, and the twins had just turned into toddlers last time I saw the family. I don't remember their exact personality points, but I do remember that the older one--the heir--had like MAYBE two Nice points. Hoo boy.
You're stronger than me if you're actually going to do the toddler challenge--I am NEVER doing that one 'cos I already know it'd drive me crazy! Every time I have even _two_ toddlers in a Sim house I can't wait until they're old enough to put themselves in their own god damn beds. Queen Bee also sounds daunting, but I _might_ try it someday. However, I always like to have my families in neighborhoods that are already full of other interesting characters so they can meet each other and it's more colourful and fun. If I had a "Legacytown", it'd probably have a population of two families before I got bored and either stopped playing it or started moving in non-legacy characters.
As for Doctor Who/other fandom Sims, I tend to make them in the order I think of them, and sometimes it's hard to determine who should go into which household. Like, do I put Sarah Jane with 3 or 4? (I think I went with 3, eventually.) I've already got Eleven and Twelve's crews in my new game and haven't made any of the earlier ones, so there goes MY chance at chronological!
Rose/Moment...okay... (Twincest/identical-looking people being together pairings have never been my thing, as I prefer to see two DIFFERENT, contrasting, good-looking people together. And of course they have to have had at least a good bit of screen/page time together and some actual chemistry and history. I only like pairings that seem plausibly in-character, in canon, and where there's already some relationship to build on. Of course, in your story I assume Rose and the Moment WOULD hang out together at least a little bit first...)
Rose WAS an item with Mickey at the beginning of New Who, but then dumped him like a ton of hot manure the second the Doctor came along, and _especially_ when he turned into Doctor Hottie. So, what I meant was, my Sim was different in that she was _staying_ with Mickey even though the Doctor was around.
As for pairings from different eras...heh heh heh. HOO boy. I had I think 3? Who households in Veronaville back before The Great Deletion, and plenty of them were into each other. Probably the funniest incident was between Liz Shaw and Five, who had two bolts for each other and totally got along, but I had never once deliberately had them flirt. Then one day, Five was totally depressed, so I thought: "I know! I'll invite over his best friend, THAT'll cheer him up!" and, even though they had never done anything romantic to each other, he PASSIONATELY KISSED HER AT THE DOOR and I fell over.
And this was well _before_ I had ACR! What I did not know, was that with Seasons, Spring makes Sims a bit more _spontaneously_ romantic than they might otherwise be.
I got the impression Enoby was basically a bitch to everyone if she happened to feel like it that day. But this was beyond being nice to "goffs"...she was happily eating dinner (that she cooked) and dancing the smustle with LUPIN!! I have screenshots. (Which I haven't uploaded yet.) She was way more cheerful and fun than the real version.
As for comparing her to Bella Swann...even though the writing is (somehow) way worse, I'll give this to Egogy: She's PROACTIVE. She doesn't sit around getting rescued all the time like a damsel in distress, SHE rescues DRACO! She's a horrible person, but at least she's capable of _breathing_ when her boyfriends aren't around.
This is going to be a lot of fun for anybody who reads this far down the thread. They're gonna be like, "What? How did this huge talky conversation get started?" (laugh)
Ah, Notorious. That's a holdover from my very very very first days on the 'net that I still do to this day as as sort of tradition. See, the first place I ever posted was on a primitive messageboard...ish...thing run by VH1, which was about '80s music. I like Duran Duran and wanted to use the name of one of their songs that wasn't already being used but also sounded like an online name, so I went with "Notorious".
A bit later, I started posting on the '80s Server (I do have other interests, those were just the first things I found) with that as my username and then at some point changed it, but kept "Notorious" as my sign-off.
I forget when I started calling myself "Captain Chaotica", but it's been my most-used Internet name ever since the day I was watching a Voyager episode with "CAPTAIN...PROTON!" with my family, stumbled over my tongue trying to finish my sentence before the commercial was over, and accidentally mixed the hero and villian's names together. (The evil Dr. Chaotica!) I do have other names in some places, such as Romana on Kongregate. Hee.
Shutting up finally...
...Notorious
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GaiaMIX In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2015-08-15 11:08:14 +0000 UTC]
1: But now we're in 2015 not 1995 and computers are more than WebTV's, actually now you can watch entire series on Internet. Even series that stopped airing long before I was born, like Classic Doctor Who or the first Star Treks. And ones that aren't in Italy yet. Like Steven Universe. I think I may as well go through all of Classic Who (including telemovie, Dimensions in Time, Fix with Sontarans, BBV Audiovisuals, Peter Cushing movies, and Big Finish audios.) before I start up watching Steven Universe in streaming. Or I might watch both of them around at the same period, and maybe ending up with a crossover fandom of some sorts. Maybe I end up liking a Doctor or Companion I would'nt have trought of as my favorite before. Maybe I start ship some nevermet Classic Who pairing, or a crossover DW\SU one.
2: Then they end up kinda hitting off due to their similiar personalities and become like a sibling rivalry.
3: Yes, the CLASSIC WHO 50th anniversary almost completely erased everything EXCEPT NuWho, to the point of picturing the Moment as Rose Tyler instead of any of the myriad of Classic Who companions whose actresses are still alive and would look recognizably like older versions of their DW characters. The Curator was played by Tom Baker, but may not be the Doctor at all and instead some odd piece of humanoid Gallifreyan technology. Or just Tom Baker himself who was told by the Watcher or the Valeyard or whatsisface (the guy who meddled with SJS' childhood and marriage) or whoever, to portray a future incarnation of the Doctor. Ehi, Tom Baker has played a lot of characters that are not related to DW. He also narrated quite a few stuff (Little Britain) and also did theatre acting. And was in the Navy. And was a monk (apparently known as Brother Sylvester then? Read it on TVTropes "One Steve Limit" page). And grew roses with his 1st wife and mother of his sons. And then had a short-lived marriage to Lalla Ward because they thought they were in love due to getting too much in character. And his third wife was someone who was a producer on DW back in 1974. If Jacqueline Hill can guest-star as Lexa after playing Barbara (and clearly looking like the same person just about 15 years older) then having Tom Baker means nothing if he is'nt distinctly playing the FOURTH DOCTOR. - But this does'nt mean EU and fanfic cannot have the Doctors and companions meet each other! And yeah, fandom sims kinda count as a REALLY CRACKY crossover fanfiction. Actually, it seems like one of The Sims' purposes is to be a cracky fic about itself. (at least in 3 and 4. TS1 was more focused on building and TS2 on storytelling and secondarily building. TS3 is focused on scenery and on the (un)progression that is based on your played household anyway. TS4 is focused on crazy\hipster stuff for the simmies to do.)
4: Well, River is a Time Lord but not Gallifreyan and her childhood environment was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the Doctor and Master - raised in a spaceship by Madame Kovarian (and plausibly her wife Tasha Lem, too.) and then regenerated as a kid and then sent to the nineties to be raised by Amy and Rory (her parents!)'s neighbors and be their childhood friend - instead of living with their family\House and going to their chapter's respective Academy when they're eight years old.
Susan, she might MIGHT have been a regenerated Time Lord (In my headcanon, the Susan Foreman we know and love, played by Carole Ann Ford, is actually the second incarnation and thus looks more like the Second Doctor than the First. And for the first incarnation of Susan\Arkytior, I think she looked like Maureen O' Brien, and that one of the reasons for the Doctor taking Vicki Pallister with him, is because Vicki was a dead ringer for the first incarnation of his beloved granddaughter and also for the Doc's daughter\Susan's mother when she also was in the very first incarnation. Because Vicki looks a lot more like the First Doctor than Susan does.) but she might also not have been a Time Lady at all. But I think her un-TimeLady moments are just her trying to act like a normal teenager to not creep Ian and Barbara out, or something like that.
5: Oh, Clara and Victoria? They kinda do look alike sometime. (Well originally the main\non-echo Clara was suppose to be the Victorian one, until they made her present-day.) Actually, Clara Oswin Oswald\Victorian Era Echo reminded me of Victoria Waterfield, while the Future Echo\Oswin Oswald reminded me of Zoe Heriot. Sarah Jane once "cosplayed" as Victoria, so meybe it's possibel Clara will cosplay as Victoria too in a future episode. (And what if Clara also cosplayed as Sarah Jane in another ep?)
6: Sometimes I just used stuff with approximate shapes, or that weren't actually the same shape but felt like the character. Or I used clothing with enough channels to put the color scheme I wanted. Sometimes (Axel and Xion) I made outfits respecting my headcanon colorscheme and personality for them as they wear uniforms. Even if the outfits may not seem exactly canon, well you can say they got a sort-of makeover, or that the outfits transformed during the passageway between 'verses. Or somethin'.
7: Is'nt Mormonism, like, one of these religions\cults where ANYTHING is a name? I thought it was. (Same for most of the Americas\Caribbean\Hawaii\Australia and most of South-East Asia\Philipphines, too.)
8: Yeah, a name like Nyssa sounds like a foreign name from some part of Europe, or like a town name. (Actually, I think it is. Once I went on a site page titled "my name is nyssa" and someone said their dad was watching the show and wanted to name his daughter Nyssa. Then the mom said that it was such only if they found the name on a baby name book. Then the dad ended up finding the name in it.) It's not like having two siblings named Varsh and Adric, or Malkon and Vislor, that sound like a pair of sci-fi anime buddies (the Alzarian duo) or evil and good alien superhero twins (the Trionite duo) - In fact, in the AU, I bet these duos will (have to) be renamed. Vance and Adrian Dirac. Malcolm and Victor Turlough. Yeah.
9: I might actually write said AU fic sometimes, and then post it on Teaspoon & Open Mind, or even on Fanfiction.Net. T&OM does'nt seem to have a "AU DW" category or stuff like that, right? But yeah, a fanfic like that would be cool. Don't know if I could potentially "keep up" with it. I could potentially make a few chapters before posting it all somewhere.
Don't know what other characters could there be (Other than Peter\the Doctor, Adrian\Adric, Nyssa, (Anthony) Tremas, Victor\Vislor Turlough, Tegan (Jovanka), Vance\Varsh, Malcolm\Malkon, First Doctor as founder of town they live but named William Henry One instead, Astrid Peth as a rather minor waitress who is initially referred as the french waitress that looks like Kylie Minogue but then the protagonists discover her name is actually Astrid, Kamelion as a weird looking kid who becomes a sixth ranger and was somehow adopted\kidnapped by a possessed Anthony Tremas, Peri and Yrcanos as Perpugilliam of InsertPlanetHere and Brian Yrcanos a couple who eventually marries and she's a plant alien or even just a plant elemental and he's an human and they go live in Pasadena and visit sometimes, the Romanas as two BFF's who act like sisters and are named Romana Tamm and Romana Ward and Ward is some minutes younger than Tamm. K9 as an actual dog owned by the Romanas or something. Oh but most characters will prolly not be Whoniverse-based instead same for the shenanigans. Maybe Adrian and Nyssa have a child named Nycka Dirac after DW Nyssa's daughter Neeka but respelt. Spelling it Neeka makes it look like the name of a Lion King lioness, to me. Not a suburban modern girl with an alien "auntie". There could COULD be an Andrew Lasarti in there to be a love interest to Nyssa Tremas, too. Maybe I could get Tenth Doctor and Generated "Jenny" Anomaly in there, too. And have the founder's maternal granddaughter be named Susan. But still, I don't think any other characters would be Who-related in any way.)
I actually even think I might even set it in an Uberhood! And thus the characters interact with TS2-like shenanigans and even quite a few townies. Maybe I'll make many character's physical descriptions (and eventually names) fit descriptions of TS2 townies or NPC's. Or of TS3 ones, even.
10: What if Alexander son of Worf was named after his mom's own (human) maternal grandfather? People name their kids after (great)grandparents. And Kelly is an acceptable nickname for Keh'lyr, propably even the supposed one of the original Star Trek character.
11: And you were even graduating her next to the 3rd gen of your own sims, right? I haven't even put LFT in my Uberhood, so I still know practically NOTHING about how my Uberhood!Stella is gonna turn out. I think I will have Windows 10 pretty soon anyway, and thus TS2 would not work.
12: Yeah, they named the band Blondie and also made the singer have dyed blonde hair, making it seem like the singer was known as Blondie. (And don't a lot of bands have dyed blond singers anyway? Whether it's platinum-blond, strawberry-blond, a really dark blond, regular blond, light blond, golden blond, ash blond, a bright yellow, a pinkish blond, a peroxide-ish yellowgreen (the too-much-in-the-pool variety), or some orangish yellow bright dyed hair. It's still blond, right? And some bands have singers that are naturally blond. Three of the Tokio Hotel members are naturally darkish blond but have dyed their hair black, and the fourth has natural chestnut\brown hair.)
OFC I've read they named the band after a DOG (or was that another band? Or a singer? Or just Indiana Jones?) and that the singer happened to have dyed blond hair at the time they were doing the first album and the covers, and the name stuck as well as the hair.
13: Well, I don't know if I'm finishing mine either!
14: And yeah, I will prolly do the 7 toddler challenge even tho I know I'm not that good at raising wittle TS2 simmies. I might manage a Queen Bee, too. Don't know if my Queen will manage to get enough points for life elixir, so I may make her an Elf or Fairy (a la Titania and Oberon Summerdream) that lives way longer. Or something.
Yesh, I'm talking about neighborhoods i'm prolly never have. (Install Windows 10 at about 17 days from now.)
15: Well for one I have an Uberhood, for two I usually get quite "colorful"-looking characters via townie gun and that was when no CC, for three I think many of my CAS sims are gonna be Uberhood sims, except the legacy sims. The likes of which are propably gonna marry each other or somethin'.
16: Yeah, in fact when I made Pokèmon Sims, I made the first gen characters first. And then the second, third, etc... I think I deleted about all SV families and lots to make a multifandom 'hood. At least Pokémon\Sailor Moon\Kingdom Hearts\Homestuck so it would've been an 'hood with lot of teens. A bit AU, but still... None of the SV premades have "grown on me" although I remember them all since there are so few. I might not always guess the exact number of premade playables at first, but by counting them all I can. BUT I hardly care about them enough to call them anything other than boy\girl\man\woman\worthless and inaccurate description based on clothing\vague appearance description\lifestage\sim(insertnumberhere)\(insertnameofsimimportanttothestory)'s (insertrelation)\some (gender) that (nameofimportantsim) invited.
Well unless they become romantic with one of my sim or best friends with them or whatever.
Actually I could even take a premade, makeover them, and end up changing so much of their appearance and personality that I end up changing their name and making them their own character.
Well unless the sims I've been playing are actually premades themselves (as in, I start using them as main characters) then I might refer to them by first names and suchs. And be more "canonical" so to speak. For now, the Uberhood has no CAS sims yet. Well it has a dog named Tucker Burb II living in Pleasantwiew with John, Jennifer, and Lucy Burb. And I made some single adoptive moms with pets in the family bin. But I don't have, like, a sim to be a SimSelf or to be otherwise involved in the premade lives.
Well I've been obsessed with Blair Wainwright, but that was obsession, not passion. If I had been sane at the time I'd propably not have cared about her at all. So obsessed I got banned from Carlsims3guide!
17: Well, Sarah Jane Smith... I like to think her as Four's companion. At least for now. She was with Four more than Three, and I think of Three as being more of Jo's Doctor. Of course, Donna is more iconic than Martha even though she was in less episodes, so maybe actually watching DW I might change idea.
18: They met at a Multi-Doctor\NuWho party, hit off well, quickly become friends because welp they were TS3 sims, then the Moment being somewhat domineering, the day after that, they called Rose down to the "War Shack", flirted with her, then quickly kissed her and Rose was'nt strong enough to shoo Moment down from the kiss. Rose realized she truly loved the Moment, and they flirted for a bit again.
Either so, or a pervy simmer (me?) made a Rose Tyler sim, used Create a Twin to also make a Moment sim, and then set the two as girlfriends and made them pose and flirts because they were a bit weird. And then they posted that on TUMBLR with a made-up story about their relationship.
But still, if Rose Tyler and the Moment met each other, I think they'd have a bit of rivalry at first and not understand each other, but have a somewhat good relationship, but there would be no romance - Rose is all for the (human, and human-looking alien) men: Mickey Smith, Jack Harkness, Ninth Doctor, Tenth Doctor, and Metacrisis Clone Doctor. I can see her with some girls, like Ace McShane, Martha Jones, Clara Oswald, Generated "Jenny" Anomaly, Susan Foreman, Peri Brown. BUT these are human or human-like aliens in different ways. They aren't meta-incorporeal human forms of Timelord technology like Idris or Abby + Zara or the Moment itself. Okay they could flirt with each other or even kiss, but not be serious or go steady.
Barbara Wright x Lexa is much, MUCH more likely. Barbara is certainly the kind to try a relationship with any alien who looks like a 15ish-years-older version of herself. AND I've heard that on Meglos, sexuality does'nt exist and basically anyone is panromantic pansexual, actraction depends on personality. Well not but it's easy to imagine that. Barbara Joan Yetaxa Wright is the reincarnation of an Aztec Deity, and propably the 2ndmost badass companion after Dorothy Gale "Ace" McShane. she's TOO way up for the standards of someone like ian chatterfield! Lexa is a priestess and from one of the zillions of magitek alien planets in the Whoniverse, and thus up to Barb's standards.
Also, does'nt "Lexa" also sounds like it could be an Earth-human name or nickname, too?
Maybe female Doctor Who aliens tend to have more human-y names than male aliens? The closest I can think of are Time Lord names like Darkel(a) who are actually long names that can be shortened in a feminine or masculine way depending on the incarnation's gender. Oh and Chan-Tho and I think some of the Slitheen\Raxacoricofallapatorians? But they did'nt look human. And Madame Vastra was a silurian (lizard-person and descendant of dinosaurs) so... um...
I want next alien-girl to have names like Prix and Luuf and Flap and Fiiiloen and Klak and Popoln and Leephsid and Phloaxhd't and Goaldef and Reamsydhne and Reaflxjhyxz and Xyzzyxhyjlfthwynn and Deereeneeuljvjyeepleffix and Griooloohnu and Shabbvxh and Felthnix.
BUT I heard that Astrid Peth originally was just Peth and they decided to make that the surname\give her two names, like they did for Vislor Turlough.
That's also why in my genderbent headcanon, Nyssa Adric and Vislor Turlough all keep their names.
If they can accept two-hearted regenerating aliens, police boxes that are bigger on the inside and travel in time-space, planets with orange grass and silver trees that exists outside of time, the Mistress possessing the body of some lady whose first name happens to be the anagram of "Mistress" when spelt in English, the Fourth Doctor fusing with a weird ghost-thing to suddenly become a cricket expert, the Doctor herself having a cricket-based incarnation even though it does'nt exist on Gallifrey, and species in every planet evolving to look like humans\Gallifreyan unless they're evil or something, then they can accept that somewhere in spacetime, there's a boy named Nyssa, somewhere else there are two girls named Varsh and Adric, and somewhere somewhere else, there are two other girls, slightly older than the previous girls, named Malkon and Vislor Turlough. YEAH!
And "Tegan" can apparently also be a guy's name, right? (More common as a girl name but not like TJ's co-travelling partners have the most gender-appropriate names ever!) And the girl version is spelt "Teagan" right? The same for Peri, he could still be Perpugilliam but called Perry instead.
Stan Foreman, Barbrady Jean Wright, Jan Frances Chesterton, Vic Pallister, Stevenie Taylor, Dorién "Dodo" Chaplet, Paul "Paulie" Wright, Benjamina "Ben" Jackson, Jamina Roberta "Jamie" McCrimmon, Victor Waterfield, Zane Heriot, Eljiah "Eli" Shaw, Joseph "Joe" Grant, Samir John Smith, Harriet Sullivan, Leela of the Sevateem (who don't care about gender\sex in names), Romanadvoratrelundar "Roman" of Heartshaven, Adric, Nyssa of planet Traken, Tegan Jovanka, Vislor Turlough, Perpugilliam "Perry" Brown, Melvin John "Mel" Bush, Doryan Gale "Ace" McShane, Grace Holloway (I think that can be a male name too.), Charles Elpseth "Charlie" Pollard, C'rizz, Lucian Miller, Thames Drew, Merideth "Melly" O'Sullivan, Cinder (original names redacted!), Ross Marion Tyler, Martin Jones, Donald Noble, Archibald Jesse "Archie" Pond, Rory Arthurina Williams, Carlot Oswald (the "Oswin" name used by the echo stays the same), Rupherta "Danny" Pink, Courtney Woods (which is also a boy's name, too.)
Oh and it's 21:44 here in Italy, so I'm a bit tired. And some of the names may or may not make sense. I think male!SJS can pull off Samir as a first name.
And the Female!Brig's name is prolly Alistaire Gordie L-S. Also Michelle Yates and Jane Benton. Oh and there's a Jackie Harkness too. And a River Song who is prolly still Melody Pond.
19: Yeah, my summer tutor, when I showed her NuWho's plot and behind-the-scenes video stuff, she said that Rose should have fell out of love with the Doctor when she discovers he's an alien. Actually, I kinda believe in aliens loving humans and the suchs (YAY Nyssa\Tegan and Vastra\Jenny... and Homestuck Rose\Kanaya.) but the Doctor should'nt fall in love that easily... maybe? He did'nt seem in love with any Classic Who companions - and most of them weren't in love with him. Propably except Romana and some other who would have crushes on him but not that strong. He did have some romantic feelings for SOME humans but he usually stayed witht hem for a bit then abandoned 'em and went for his way. But NOW he decided to miss Rose even though he did'nt miss Sarah Jane when he had Leela, or Romana when he had Tegan, or Jamie when he had Liz, or Susan when he had Vicki.
Heck, he does'nt realize that he had many companions before Rose and many of them are still alive somewhere in space time. Go visit Tegan or Sarah Jane or Nyssa or Turlough or Jamie or Susan or Ian & Barbara or Ben & Polly or pre-death!Adric or Jo Grant or Zoe Heriot or Peri Brown or Ace McShane or Charley Pollard or ANYONE!!!
Or, maybe I am mistaken and it's more the FANS thinking that Martha is a bad companion cuz they miss Rose - than the Tenth Doctor spending most of the Martha-companionship pining over Rose.
HOW is a 19-years-old chav with dyed blond hair, the DOCTOR's type? -_-
The Doctor does'nt fall in LOVE with humans - He gets actraction to them and loves them, but does'nt really want to settle down with them. I THINK he may liked the chocolate better than he did Cameca, back then. Oh and the classic Doctor's two supposed romances (Romana and Nyssa) WERE NOT HUMAN. They were... Aliens. From one each of zillions upon zillions of magitek advanced civilizations of aliens that looked like humans but weren't.
And even though they were much younger than the Doctor, Rose could not stand upon to them... She is from one of the few humanoid (well, Gallifreyan-oid, since it's Rose and Donna and Amy and all the humans to look Gallifreyan and not backwards) civilizations that is'nt advanced magitek stuff like Gallifrey and Traken and ALL THE OTHER ONES. Any name that sounds "sci-fi planet" and it taken by one of these civilizations.
So I think, maybe Nine and Ten and Eleven, not having Gallifrey around like the other Doctors, were in a "Human-loving phase" where they know Gallifrey is destroyed and cannot have it, so they retreat to humans - his favorite species.
BUT HUMANS WERE NOT HIS FAVORITE SPECIES BACK IN THE DAY! AKA The First Doctor, he did'nt like humans that much. He travelled in many planets and ended up on Earth where Barbara Wright just had to be suspicious, and thus they became the Doctor's first human companions. He never had humans before, I don't think he met humans beforehand, even. The TARDIS actually takes him always where he needs to go, he has'nt learned to pilot it. The Doctor was'nt an expert Time Lord. He was a novice that prolly failed half the classes and is learning on-the-go. Some years pass, the Doctor regenerates and who is next to him? Ben and Polly, who are\were late 20th-early 21th century humans, both of them about in their mid 20's. This is why the Doctor starts to like humans from said time period, he regenerated next to them. And this is why the TARDIS often searches companions "similiar" to Ben and Polly (in time period but also in genetic structure and age, and personality somewhat.) but it has nothing to do with romantic actraction. Or love. Polly may be eccentric and high-class but propably not someone who would go steady with the Doctor (well, she has Ben with her. But still.)
BUT let's say that right after dropping Dodo off, the Doctor ended up with Flarfel from planet Cashel. And regenerated next to her. And the Doctor instead of having mainly human has mainly Cashelans. His exile is there, and he stays there a lot during 9, 10, and 11 alternate run. And thus no Rose, River, et al.
But still, it's no romantic actraction - many of these early human companion travelled with him b\c they were DESTTINED to, or because they weren't but wandered into the TARDIS anyway, usually thinking it was no more than a simple police box. IE quite a few of the non-"UNIT era" present-day Classic Who companions. (both Dodo and Tegan arrived thus. And technically even the very first human companions Ian and Barbara.)
Okay he had a lot of humans in the TARDIS as the first Doctor, but more because they wandered away in it, or because they had no choice but to go in it - than anything else.
And even though the "Doctor Hottie" AKA Ten (and Handy) are actractive, it does'nt mean he and the Companion have to be together! or even in love!
Okay, the Eighth Doctor basically loved all or most of his companions, but he seems to act somewhat like Tenth in various regards.
He still seems to take in stride the loss of various companions (he had so many that does'nt remember some of them.)
Actually what if the Eighth split of into three permanently, one Eighth Doctor became the Big Finish Doctor and eventually ended up in the Time War. another became the book's Eighth and eventually the Curse of Fatal Death doctors, another became the comic Eighth and Shalka Doctor.
And what about Fivey and Sixie, they were blond and quite actractive, yet they were in the era where there was the least Doctor\companion romance to no romance at all. (Hence Nyssa may or may not seem much of a love interest. Plus she's an adolescent, whether she's 1 or 100 Trakenite Years old. And whatever her age would be in Earth years. She's cronologically older than Adric but it means nothing since he could be less than an human year old.)
(Also, I'd say that even Patrick Troughton and Sylvester McCoy can clean up nicely.)
20: I'd propably make all the Crews even if I don't make them in CAS at exact chronological time. I can see them in Veronaville but also in Strangetown and in various other 'hoods.
And if crack pairings happens, whatevs. In the Uberhood I'm gonna have premades from ALL SIX "sim-universes" in it. Plus some CAS sims. (AND I may or may not get myself a Widespot subhood in there.)
21: Actually I think Ebony could get along with Lupin. Maybe she tries to meke him more goffik, first.
And yeah, Bella is all brooding and fawny and would'nt know what to do if she did'nt have Edward or Jacob around. Ebony is more descriptive in appearance and the things she does, while Bella is more descriptive in weird adjectives and sentences that just mean "OMG I love Edward but I also love Jacob" and stuff. Sentences that actually refer to something that happens in the plot and are not just purple prose? These are VERY, very rare.
22: Yeah, Doctor Who sims and headcanon\phylosophical stuff about 'em are QUITE offtopic on this image. This is'nt sims, this is fanart of the Doctor and K9 drawn like Charlie Brown and Snoopy. Yet we're talking about sims and about an AU in which the Doc, Adric, Nyssa, and Turlough are humans and Tegan is an alien! It's CRAZY.
Wait, what, is'nt every discussion you do on other people's DW or anything fanart, eventually end up talking about your DW sims, and then itno TS2 itself?
23: Ah, I've heard about Duran Duran and am not in their fandom nor I think have heard any of the songs. But IIRC once in Fairly Odd Parents, it's shown that Cosmo and Wanda actually were Fairy Godparents to a kid named "Duran Duran". The name was on a school cabinet that was full of documents regarding the wishes of that kid.
So either 1: Duran is a surname in the FoP world and a family named their kid a repetitive name and said kid ended up getting Cosmo and Wanda as fairy godparent. 2: A kid saw the name on a CD case and asked Cosmo and Wanda to legally change their name to that (It might have been a girl kid or a trans* kid). 3: The cabinet documents contains the wishes of Simon, Stephen, Andy, AND Jeff, and all together their wishes were way less that any other kid's wishes so they share a cabinet. 4: It IS just Simon LeBon's (or any member) wishes, labelled under the wrong name. Of course there also was a "Teen Turtle" on the same cabinet as well as various stage names that aren't the legal names. So it might just be people who changed their names via magic and not the famous people.
P. Diddy's name is Sean Combs, Tina Turner is Anna Mae Bullock, Carrot Top is Scott Thompson, and Vanilla Ice is Robert Matthew Van Winkle.
And I think these too were names of people that changed their names via magic, expecially since Sean Combs, Scott Thompson, and Robert Van Winkle were all kids at the same time.
Maybe the Tina Turner who had Cosmo and Wanda as fairy godparents was actually named Tina Turner and a distant ancestor of Timmy.
But I'm not even SURE if you've watched any Fairly Odd Parents. So yeah.
24: Ah, I've watched some Star Trek Voyager, OFC not all episodes so I don't think I've watched these holodeck episodes with Captain Proton and Doctor Chaotica.
But I'm pretty sure I've watched some and remember watching some scenes in which B'elanna Torres (At least I think it was her.) and an human guy (who might've been Tom Paris?) were on Earth (or something that resembled it? Perhaps an holodeck) and they were asking about B'elanna 's forehead ridges and that she could not pass as human.
Though since I was watching it quite casually, it's possible that was'nt a Star Trek episode at all, or from some non-Voyager series. (Like Enterprise)
25: Oh, I'm usually some variation of KaylaBaraonda, GaiaMIX, or Kaiko Espurr Mikkusu.
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Captain-Chaotica In reply to GaiaMIX [2015-08-16 05:31:51 +0000 UTC]
(Pardon me if I don't answer _all_ your stuff; it's not that I didn't read it, it's just that sometimes I have nothing specific to _say_ about it.)
First off, do you think maybe we should take this to e-mail? It might help to not clog up DeviantArt so much. Since we _very_ much seem to be having a real, proper conversation. I can't remember if my e-mail address is linked on my profile, if it isn't, here:
Prince_Charmy@yahoo.com
(named after an obscureish Sonic the Hedgehog comics character who has since been retconned into something way less interesting...but nevermind that. Anyway, CharmY not CharmING _is_ correct, not a mishearing or typo.)
Yeah, I'm fully aware this is WAY past when I first got on the Internet with WebTV (and you were close--1996, late summer I think? was my first day on-line.) Still, it's possible to accidentally hit the "back" button or forget you were writing something and browse away to a different site, etc. So annoying stuff like that _can_ still happen.
I have seen all of Classic Who (well, all of it that still exists), the TV movie, _and_ the BBV videos, also Scream of the Shalka. I have not, however, seen any Steven Universe yet, but I keep hearing good things about it. However, if I ever get a chance to catch up on the quirky newer cartoons, I should probably start with Adventure Time and Gravity Falls, just to make sure I catch up on ALL the ones of that kind I keep hearing about...
(and _maybe_--eventually--My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I'm an oldschool fan from the '80s and still have all my old ponies, and I hear the show is very clever, but it's also WAY TOO EVERYWHERE.)
Another not-canon-but-still-cool fan thing along the same lines as the BBV videos--have you ever heard the "Audio-Visual" radio plays? They started in, I wanna say...1985? and then they did several "seasons" of them. They star Nick Briggs as the Doctor (!) and not only does he play a PERFECTLY legit Doctor, but the writing was quite good and the Companions interesting. Also I think one of the stories became a Big Finish and then _also_ got incorporated into the new show, but I could be wrong.
Although they do start off a bit clunky. But keep listening--if you can even find them--they're pretty cool. And they accidentally predict one of THE big events of the new series well over a decade before...
Totally agree with you about the 50th Anniversary; that side-TV-movie thing they did where 5, 6 and 7 kept scrambling to find a way to get into the show was funny, and we also briefly saw some older Companions, but at least one of those people should've ACTUALLY been in the Anniversary. As you said--it's not like they never brought back anybody who was on the show before, only older, in the past.
(Although perhaps not THAT much older, is the problem...? Still, I think, say, Ace could probably pop up as a badass Time Agent or something.)
And if they had to use a NewWho Companion....WHY ROSE?! Yes, yes, I know why--she is (inexplicably) the most popular or at least the best-known. I _so_ would've rather had any other, though.
I don't know WHO precisely I thought Tom Baker was supposed to be, in the context of that story. I was just delighted to see him there--and I hadn't been spoiled ahead of time, so it was a total surprise! Maybe he's the Doctor, maybe he's an alternate Doctor, maybe he's some other Time Lord, maybe he's a temporal echo...I dunno.
Mwahaha. Sims has ALWAYS been for crack-fics!!! At least, mine has. You say Sims 2 is more serious but almost _all_ the very craziest things I have had happen, have happened in 2. Quite a few of them _before_ I got any hacks. But this goes back to my first game. In the first game, I had Sesshoumaru from Inuyasha living down the street from Captain Kirk, the Sailor Scouts (the inner ones, anyway) lived in a big house right next to the Weasleys and Rimmer from Red Dwarf ended up marrying Lara Croft. And that's not even counting the Goddess characters down the street, or my B5 characters, or...
This is all in ONE.
Two is...well, you can read most of the chaos of that on that page I linked you. But one of the main reasons I make all these characters and put them in the same neighborhood is so that I CAN see all kinds of crazy meetings that would normally never, ever happen! Relationships that bend time, space and alternate universes. It's so much fun!
Three I haven't done much with yet, although I will at some point. However, in my early playing of it back in a near-prototype stage (there were still "magical glitch-babies" randomly appearing--that era) I did have my main character, Sarah Jane Smith, go around interviewing different characters from "Cheers" for her reporter job. I didn't have anything other than base game outfit and hair meshes to play with, so I couldn't do much in the way of sci-fi/fantasy/anime/whatever, but I COULD make specific characters from shows that more or less take place in the "normal" world...and yet still populate the town with fun personalities I already know.
Sims 4 I am...kind of avoiding until (a) I at least have played a whole lot more of 3!--and b--and this is the big reason--because SO MUCH STUFF IS _MISSING_. I'm waiting for them to make a patch that adds toddlers and makes teenagers _not_ be the same height as adults, among other things. Which is a shame 'cos the graphics, at least, are my favourite. They've got the charming cartoony-but-not-too-much look of 2 with modern 2015 gloss. 3, unfortunately, has "pudding-face" syndrome...WHY DO THEY _ALL_ LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE DOUBLE CHINS. WHY.
River I think of as...sort of a human with Time Lord enhancements? I'm not sure if I'd fully call her a Time Lord--she can do ONE major thing only Time Lords can do, but the rest of her DNA is human as far as I know... (I'm not _arguing_ with you, just saying how I've always seen it.) Susan, the jury is also still out, for me, whether she's a Time Lord or a "normal" Gallifreyan, but she WAS definitely older than she looked on the show, I would say. I agree with you there.
I never really thought of Susan looking more like Two and therefore being the second incarnation--ha! Although, that theory seems to say that Time Lords regenerate in a sequence that genetically follows the same regeneration path as their relatives (at least some of the time) and I always thought that as long as it was in their genes SOMEwhere, they could regenerate looking like anybody. So, that is to say, Susan One wouldn't necessarily match Doctor One, Susan Two wouldn't necessarily match Doctor Two, etc. There would still be a family resemblance, but not, like, matching all the way along. The Doctor might regenerate into something that looks a lot like his grandfather while Susan might then regenerate into something that looks a lot more like her mother, who married into the family and therefore the Doctor doesn't have those genes in him at all. For example.
But again, these are just theories. This is all stuff we'll probably never really know, so it's fun to make up your own ideas about it.
Mormonism IS very weird, but the "anything can be a name" is not something I've heard about it yet, no. And I've been living in the heart of LDS-ville for (coughcough) years. I have a _lot_ of opinions on that religion, but...I'd rather not get into controversy and anger here. Let's just say I'm against a lot of their gender politics for one thing, and leave it at that.
(And of course individual members of the church have their own levels of conservatism and devoutness...#notallmormons and all that. But the REALLY strict ones are the ones who scare me.)
Anyway, the Mormons _I_ know tend to usually have fairly ordinary names. If anything, a lot of Bible names. I know a bunch of Josh's, Chris's, Mikes, Dannys...
"Nyssa" or "nysse" actually IS a word in one foreign language...I forget which one, though, but I think it's something Celtic. But anyway, it means something along the lines of "fairy" or "fay". There's also the characters from Welsh mythology "Nissen" and "Evnissen", which might possibly be related in a language way.
(Pffff DIES LAUGHING) Oh my god. I just got to the part in your AU description where Peri is a "plant elemental" and OH MY GOD, did you know that she actually did turn into a PlantSim at one point in my game?! HA! Great minds think alike, although as far as I can recall I didn't do it to her on purpose--she was just a weirdness magnet, much like the real one. On her FIRST NIGHT in Sim-existence she got abducted by aliens _without_ any hacks or boolprop, then while her lavendar-skinned son grew up and eventually went off to college, one quiet day at home while (of course) gardening she turned into a plant.
The family eventually ended up comprising quite a few people and all kinds of weirdos, including a warlock and an elf, but it all started with her...
My _other_ alternate-universe theory for Peri is that she could be related to a certain _other_ famous time-travelling Brown...from California...YES, I mean Doc Brown from Back to the Future! HA-ha! I never actually did so, but I had their family also living in the same neighborhood and was _so_ tempted to make Doc related to her. Sure, that wasn't originally his family's last name, but they changed it decades before she would've been born, so...
It's just as well I didn't; that would've made Peri's extended family even WEIRDER (and more extended). Especially since Doc and Clara's (! what is with "Clara"s and time travellers...?) older son, Jules, was dating Kim Possible last I saw that family. Sure, let's throw ANOTHER universe in, why not?
Wow, the convolutedness of YOUR AU/Sim neighborhood (?) makes even mind sound a bit tame! As for the Romanas...I'm not sure _how_ I would handle that, in the game anyway. Actually I got around it by having two different versions in two different neighborhoods--Strangetown had Four with Harry, Leela, and Romana One (Five "got" Adric, Tegan and Nyssa, as he travelled with them a lot more) and a weird-looking dog named K-9. I can't remember what last name they had...maybe Sullivan, as he's the only one who had one? Wait, wait, I remember I also gave Leela the last name "Sevateem"...maybe they had seperate last names.
But over in Riverblossom Hills, when I wanted to make a group shot of a lot of Who characters gathering around for Six's "birthday", I made up alternate versions of people from all OVER the Classic series, including, this time, Romana _Two_. Which is why you'll see a blonde Time Lady in an old-fashioned dress and hat throwing snowballs at the Weavers (my "Land Rich, Cash Poor" household) while at more or less _the same time_ a dark-haired, elegant, snooty Time Lady is visiting the Sevateems.
I would LOVE to have an Uberhood but...I'm not quite sure how it works, how to reinstall my old stuff that used to be in seperate neighborhoods into just one, and I'm also reaaaallly unsure how it'll load on my computer, if it's THAT big. So, for now, I have to stick with the seperate neighborhoods, and that means not everybody can meet _everybody_. Still, the choices are pretty varied and colourful as it is.
Townie gun? I am intrigued. Tell me more.
Yeah..I don't usually actively get _rid_ of the Maxis premades, but I don't play them much either. I used to, back when I had fewer of my own characters to work with...I started off INTENDING to kill off Don Lothario and then instead put him through every kind of hell the Basegame + Nightlife could offer and letting him live as a reformed soul. And I made sure Darren Dreamer (or is it Dirk? I always forget which one's the dad and which one's the son) got his crush Cassandra Goth.
Anyway, yeah. I don't HATE the pre-mades, but I don't do much with them either. Usually.
Well, I can't really say I'm not "pervy"...just not in quite the same _way_ as you. HOWEVER! I have indeed had some cases of dopplegangers falling in love in my game...when I recently put the Hetalia characters back in, I also added a whole bunch of NyoTalians (the semi-mostly-kinda-canon genderbent versions) and I have _already_ had at least two cases of somebody fancying themself.
The Russias and the Switzerlands, both have the hots for their alternate universe selves. Yep.
And frankly, I was VERY expecting that to happen at some point. Heh.
Let's see, if I was to genderbend the Companions, what names would I go with...? Hmm. I'll have to think about that.
River Song could probably just stay with that name, since it's androgynous. I mean, there used to be a MALE actor named River Phoenix in real life, for one thing. His original name would probably be, like, Melvin Pond.
And yes, Lexa does totally sound like a legit name. If anything, if I met somebody named that, I would probably assume it was a non-standard nickname for Alexandra.
Oh, don't get me STARTED with the Doctor and Rose and falling in "love" and why her instead of all the other Companions, etc. I used to rant about that like CRAZY, back when I had a Doctor Who forum to post on. OHMYGOD. First, even if she _wasn't_ a terrible person, Rose is just not INTERESTING enough for the Doctor to fall for that hard, and not anywhere near compatible with him. Secondly--WHY HER, instead of _so_ many of the others who were much cooler?! I would much rather Two and Jamie, Three and Liz or Four and Romana before I'd even consider Ten and Rose. Heck, even non-standard pairings like Six and Evelyn. Most of the others were _so much more likeable_, if he's going to fall in love with a human suddenly, WHY _HER_?!
Oh, sure, I _know_ why. It's because she was the first Companion on the new series, and the writers/producers thought they _had_ to give it romance to "punch it up" for a modern audience, otherwise "the kids" wouldn't get into it. (I'd like to point out that people of all ages loved the classic show for _26_ years without overt Doctor/Companion romances, but hey.) But Rose is SUCH A MARY SUE, and she seems to get what she does and be liked as well as she is (by the other characters on the show) STRICTLY because she's RTD's baby and he says so, not because she's _done_ anything to deserve these relationships. She's a modern _bitch_-Sue--like Ebony but not as extreme--where no matter HOW terrible she is, people eventually forgive her and think she's ~SOOO WONDERFUL~~ (sappy violin music, closeup, Signigicant Glance).
uuuurrrhggghh. Pardon me while I retch a moment. I was SO glad when we got past her era. Martha may also have a crush on the Doctor (again? We're doing that AGAIN, this soon?) but she is SO MUCH MORE LIKEABLE! You can count me on the anti-Rose side _any_ day of the week. I like _all_ the other modern Companions AND Classic ones better than her. I mean, even screamy Victoria wasn't a bitch and "annoying" Adric never treated his boy/girlfriend like dirt.
And I was VERY glad Martha ended up with Mickey. He majorly upgraded in girlfriends; she got a decent man. Win-win.
I also totally agree with you about the Doctor not being _so_ enamoured with humans in general, back in the day. He liked us okay, but it wasn't like: "THIS PLANET IS MY BABY. IF YOU THREATEN IT I WILL _END_ YOU." the way it is now. And I'm not entirely against the idea of the Doctor falling for a Companion, human or not...but they should be WORTHY of him and compatible! Rose is neither. To go back to Sims terms, she's probably a flighty Popularity and the Doctor is totally a Knowledge Sim. Always has been.
I mean, heck, Three's favourite race might've been the _Venusians_--he sure quotes/references their stuff a lot!
I really like your idea of the Doctor regenerating while Companions of an alien race are watching him, and then getting more attached to _that_ race. That would be pretty cool. I don't know if I'd want to wipe out ALL of Who history past that point to do so, but it _would_ make an intriguing AU...
I'm not sure, but I'm thinking I _might_ have two Who crews per neighborhood, now that there are six 'hoods. Before I scattered them however and put more of them in my favourite towns, etc. But I'm thinking I might go like:
Pleasantview--One and Two's crews.
Strangetown--Three and Four's. (This would keep Four in his "original" Sim hometown, but move Three away from the Harry Potter characters, the Williamses, etc. in Veronaville, which is one reservation I have about this idea.)
Veronaville--Five and Six. (Again, this would keep Five in his original Sim-hometown but move Six. Kylie Williams could continue to date Turlough, though, which would make _her_ happy.)
Riverblossom Hills--7 and 8, and I guess I'll have to try and make the radio Companions for 8, or some of them anyway (I doubt I'd be able to do C'rizz any justice, for example.)
Desiderata Valley--9 and Ten, which would be firsts for that 'hood.
Belladonna Cove--11 and 12, which I've already done. Well, except Danny. But I can make him up and add him to the household.
PROS: This would make it so _every_ neighborhood has at least SOME interesting characters in it, and encourage me to play all of them instead of just a few.
CONS: This splits up certain groups I used to have living next door to each other, so that now they won't be able to meet.
(and bear in mind, I'm scared to try an Uberhood.)
So I haven't quite decided yet. But yeah.
And yeah, you're right, about Ebony and Lupin! Actually I always thought it was rather odd that the "goffik" chick didn't get along with the really snarky, gloomy guy all in black and the freaking _werewolf_! I mean, hello! He IS a creature of the night, how much more "goth" can you get?
No, I haven't watched any Fairly Odd Parents, sorry. But it sounds interesting. But MAN do I have so much other stuff to catch up with first before I add new things to my "list"! I can't tell you whether or not you'd like Duran Duran's actual music; as I know nothing about your musical tastes. Also they tend to change their style at least a little with _every single album_ rather than just stick with what made money last time (one of the reasons I like them) so while you might HATE one of their albums you might like another one from over a decade down the road. But, still, there's something unmistakably "Duran" about all of their stuff...maybe it's just that there's always Simon LeBon's voice as a point of continuity, I dunno. But they kind of both have a consistent style AND play around all over the place with different genres at the same time.
The name "Duran Duran" is actually taken from the villian in the movie "Barbarella", which the three founding members of the band all liked. It's a science fiction movie, which tells you that they're at least a bit nerdy, so we're already starting off from a good place.
In FACT, they even made a parody "movie" thing in which the villian from Barbarella himself shows up on at the time modern-day Earth and gets pissed off that they stole his name! All kinds of weirdly-costumed chaos then ensues, with the band cluelessly going on with their concert, having little to NO idea that anybody's trying to assassinate them...
Huh. Well, it sounds like the episode you were describing _could_ be Voyager...there's one where they go to modern-day Earth (isn't there always?) and had to disguise themselves. I can't remember, but there may indeed have been a line where they mentioned that Be'Lanna couldn't go down because of her Klingon forehead ridges. Tuvok just covered his ears with a hat, same as Spock did in "City on the Edge of Forever", but Be'Lanna's visibly alien parts go way farther down her face, so...
The episodes where they had "CAPTAIN...PROTON!!" were only a few, really, but they were so memorable and fun. Well, at least to me, 'cos I love that kind of cheesy oldschool black-and-white sci-fi. Robots that are obviously guys in boxes painted silver, tin-foil and cardboard rockets, paper plate flying saucers...yeah! Those are my favourite types of movies on MST3K. The costumes and props, etc. for the Captain Proton sketches are SO cute, and the scenes that take place there are usually funny. One of my personal favourites is when Seven of Nine stops the "OH, NO, MENACING, EEEEEVILLLE ROBOT!" by calming taking two steps, ripping open its chest panel, and removing a wire. "The robot is nullified."
Also those bits are always in black and white, so if you've ever seen a picture of, say, Tom Paris wearing a rocket-pack and in black and white, that's what it came from.
Anyway, shutting up now...
...Notorious
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GaiaMIX In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2015-08-16 14:22:13 +0000 UTC]
I just sent you a message, actually. So you can reply anytime... "anyspace"...
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Carthoris In reply to Captain-Chaotica [2008-05-02 20:12:33 +0000 UTC]
I've heard that Matthew Waterhouse (Adric) and Lalla Ward (Romana) really didn't get along too well together on the show...
As for my knitting 'skills', a scarf is about the extent of it; I've NO desire to try & knit a sweater!
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Abbywolf In reply to Abbywolf [2008-02-25 02:04:31 +0000 UTC]
No problem, I love all your other art too! They are very creative
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