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Published: 2017-07-12 22:04:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 733; Favourites: 8; Downloads: 5
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Description TL;DR: Feedback requested, if you see any problems with my picture, no matter how nitpicky, please share!

I wasn't planning to upload anything for a long time, but since it's just been one day... I decided to make an exception, after yesterday's perspective practice which was meant to be my last upload for 3 months...
This is how my next day starts, well... besides 2 hours spent making brushes   (which were not used in this image anyways, I just had to make myself a basic hard round and soft round brush in paintstorm,  I somehow still hadn't... Now I have, and they are glorious I remember spending literal days in krita trying to find the perfect settings for a soft brush; a lot of nightmare fuel was created but ultimately no brush that I was completely satisfied with, so when I found out about paintstorm after dicking around on youtube I switched over in a flash, and I'm so glad I did this program is a riot!)

So because it went so much better than expected, on first try (beginners luck for sure I refuse to believe it's anything else!!) I decided to make an exception and share it, because for my first true attempt at drawing not just two objects, but full fledged characters and not just one but two standing next to each other (I mean... I hope...) beginners luck or not, that seems to have gone pretty well. The characters themselves are just doodles, randomly generated, I just threw together the first basic forms that came to my mind, and did the expression thing with the head pieces this is also sort of my first serious attempt to keep a consistent light source across more than one object, and one of my first attempts to draw cast shadows. I'm not gonna lie, I have an ulterior motive for uploading this...

I need feedback, somehow I have this feeling that this is looking much better to me than it really should, I'm pretty sure I'm making at least several huge mistakes in these sketches, but I cannot for the life of me see them. For some inexplicable reason, I do not hate this work, please help me hate it. it doesn't feel right to like something I've drawn, so please point out all my horrible mistakes, you get brownie points if you make me cry! so go extra hard on me, show no mercy!! make me bleed!! (yes I want you to nitpick at every little detail that you notice is wrong, any mistake you can point out will help me greatly)

It is bugging the living shit out of me that I cannot see what is wrong with this picture.  Help me see my mistakes!! I feel blind!

Edit: After consulting with the cool guy who finally helped me understand perspective (that dude ) and a few others I now understand these things, I missed a highlight, on the right robot's head there should be a highlight, I didn't draw it because it is just one plane but since it is meant to be metallic there would be a highlight there, also the cast shadows do not follow the perspective, it looks like they are on a slant instead of flat to the floor, and the robot on the left side has out of perspective feet, while every part of the feet individually is fairly correctly drawn in perspective, the legs as a unit are not in perspective while this is fantastic for a first try on drawing something a bit more complex than a box, and maintaining consistent lighting between many objects, I've got some ways to go.
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olq-plo [2017-07-12 22:50:07 +0000 UTC]

" For some inexplicable reason, I do not hate this work, please help me hate it.  it doesn't feel right to like something I've drawn, so please point out all my horrible mistakes, you get brownie points if you make me cry!   "

Are you a masochistic ?

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Cestarian In reply to olq-plo [2017-07-12 23:41:11 +0000 UTC]

NO!!!
Yesssss... 
No...
Maybe...
Just a tiny little bit?

Would that bad?

(Mostly it's just that I am painfully aware of how bad of an artist I am, and when I draw something like this and can't see any problems with it, I know I'm not seeing something, I know there has to be a huge and serious mistake somewhere in there, I always make them! Nothing I draw ever turns out right and I know this so well that if I would let myself think otherwise even for a second I will start to wrongly thing I'm actually any good at this, and that would be incredibly harmful to my development of artistic skill. Furthermore this... thing  ... that's clearly (extremely) much better drawn than anything I have ever drawn before was actually super easy to do, there was almost nothing to it, and I'm having a hard time believing (much less, accepting) that I have struggled so incredibly hard for 3 whole years for something this bloody simple and easy... If that really is the case, I am mad at the world for not having had a single good perspective tutorial in it despite the fact that books have been written on the subject for centuries I could teach literally any idiot to do this!! and I could teach it in less than a bloody week!! Why did I have to struggle so hard for this?! Did I really 'get it'? No!!! THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO IT THAN THIS!!!     this was one of my earliest attempts at using a new technique for drawing perspective, meaning the quality will only go up if I do it a couple more times and learn a few more things from experience, but there must be something major I'm missing here!! Because perspective has been the most confusing subject for me since I started drawing, but the way I finally learned it made it the actually easiest thing I have ever learned about drawing that's not right man, I feel betrayed if that's really the case!)

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olq-plo In reply to Cestarian [2017-07-12 23:53:42 +0000 UTC]

No it wouldn't be bad

Imo it doesn't really matter knowing what's wrong with this one now, what maters is you keep exercising, granted in a couple weeks/months you'll take a look at your previous attempts and see what was wrong that you couldn't tell xD

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Cestarian In reply to olq-plo [2017-07-13 00:39:40 +0000 UTC]

It does matter to me, if you keep exercising thinking that something that is wrong is right, you will get better at drawing wrongly. My greatest fear here is that there is some major, huge mistake I am making that I can not see, that only a better artist can notice, and just like I struggled 3 years to learn perspective, I could be practicing and drawing perspective wrongly for another 3 years without even knowing it

This is one of the reasons why I'm totally behind the saying that "You are your own worst teacher", you may never need anyone to tell you what exactly you're doing wrong, a skilled self tutor (like me apparently) can rather easily see what they are doing wrong most of the time, but sometimes you do need someone to tell you that you are actually doing something wrong in the first place. If you cannot in the first place see that you're doing something wrong, you will never be able to find out what it is (because you will never know that you have to look for it )

I know this fact painfully well from some very traumatic life experiences. Luckily, I know just the guy who could tell me if something is seriously wrong with this. So I decided to ask hope he responds. Only if I get his stamp of approval will I truly know that I'm doing it right, my eyes keep telling me this is right no matter how often I look at it, but my mind insists that my eyes must be lying. I don't know which one to believe, a typical human would just accept what the eyes say simply for the fact that the mind insists the eyes must be lying but has no concrete proof to support that claim, in other words, it's just easier to believe what your eyes say about your work, but I know all too well that we are dealing in illusions here, and basically the main slogan for all illusionists is "Nothing is how it seems"

Perspective is too important of an aspect of drawing to leave it up to chance, to just hope I'm doing it right, which is why I'm looking for someone to tell me I'm doing it wrong, not because I want it to be wrong, but because an inability to do so is the closest thing to proof I can get that it is actually right.

Also my brain sorta goes into panic mode when things turn out as I intended in art this is the second time it happens. As I said earlier I am painfully aware of how bad of an artist I am, so when things go right it feels wrong... It's just not 'normal' for things to go well for me when I try to draw and I guess I've grown used to that, 3 years of miserable failure does that to a man I guess

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