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Published: 2016-06-10 17:54:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 1656; Favourites: 110; Downloads: 23
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I used this image when drawinglandkeks-stock.deviantart.com/…
Thank you for the great source material!
...I plan to leave this drawing as it is ... but I think there were many unique elements in the image that I want to revisit. I am so accustomed to responding to my own whims and tactile reactions that I sometimes miss the character of the beast in front of me
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Hi Chobek, ... I love your work. It's amazing. Can't say which one I like most ... they're all fantastic. Thanks for sharing this with us. <3
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This is one of yours I saved sometime ago, possibly from DarkArtOffsprings
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But those whims and tactile are your signature, you can't forget about them, don't you even dare
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on a on a side note, I see that you are sponsoring a contest
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Yup
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I am on such a weird path with my drawings..... I never thought my stuff would wind up so tight... Small and illustrative.
I don't mind it, but it is surprising..... Now I feel like I need to brush up on some more formal things...... Like composition, and effective color use..... When I say brush up on.... That is kind of a joke in itself..... I tend to like objects floating in the middle of a page with no context what so ever.... (Or smashing shit in a corner) And with color.... I like red so I use it a lot..... But beyond that I really suck..... If something works it is by chance. I should have taken at least 1 painting class in my life..... I would have had to deal with color then....
Side note..... Did you see that there is a new contest/prompt for the group DarkArtsOffsprings...... It seemed like it might be up your alley.... Or be fun.... Or something.....
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Ahh, I just looked at your other birds, you have a knack for them.
What do you mean by tight? It's not uptight. Most of your work is tight and expressive and illustrative to me.
Yeah, I tend to just leave things floating on the page too. I guess that's one thing about painting that carried over to digital for me. I always feel the need to fill the empty space with something, even if it's just some atmosphere or what not. Empty page space never bothered me like empty canvas does. I always wonder what I would have learned if I attended my art classes more often.
Thanks, I just checked out the contest, it's pretty open ended. Funny how often contests come up for something I'm already working on. I started a fetus sort of pic the other day, it might fit in there, maybe not.
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I guess I always think my stuff is weird....
When I was younger I kind of gave up on the illustration thing because I was bad at a few technical skills that were necessary for it.... and I didn't like the idea of drawing anything I wasn't invested in. (I am still kind of that way) In college there was almost a -choosing sides- thing that happened between fine art and design .... I think there was a bit of puffing up and defensiveness on both sides ...... I didn't look down on design in any way...... but also I was pretty naturally drawn to the fine arts end of the building.... so when I see myself doing tight pen and ink drawings that are kinda sorta realistic I am surprised... I have been heading this direction for years ....... but somehow I am still surprised.
My work use to be larger and sloppier and seem more organic and informed by observation. Sometimes I feel a loss there.... but I also think there are things I am capable of now that I wouldn't have been then. ...and I am not the person I was ... I keep my interaction with the outside world small and controllable ...... I guess it is fair then that my art would show that.
...And I didn't like my work then either.... when I think about it.... I don't think I was ever happy with what I was doing.
I know this sounds really stupid but I tried to avoid using patterns in my drawings when I was in college because my Mom seemed to hate them. Every time I would show her something of mine .... and it had patterns on it, she would say she liked the drawing but didn't see why I felt the need to add those .... that they brought everything down.
I wouldn't have thought that I would change my drawing style to please her .... but I also started thinking of my patterns like there was a cheapness to them ...... so I kept them in my journals .... they spilled out a bit but i felt that they were a little shameful too.... I guess it is hard to step out of that parents approval thing without a revolt....
When I think about it now I see how immature I was
You know I am not sure a painting class would have helped me .... I think there is something off with my brain... I focus on an interesting detail and then my drawing spreads out from there.... Like- even though I mentioned composition in this very post.... the drawing after this ... I chopped off the tail.... I should be able to avoid that .... but I didn't .... I just started drawing the eye because it interested me .... and then everything else grew around it.
-a few months ago (maybe when I started the Octopus stuff) I was watching someone draw something on youtube .... and they laid down pencil lines first, inked over them... and erased them... so I said to Joe "oh wow I could do that" ... I had been working pretty much right with ink and if i did use pencil, it wasn't a lay out tool....it was more like I started a pencil drawing and couldn't resist adding pen (and then that would take over) .... and Joe's answer was "You went to art school right? " I guess my point is I miss things sometimes... Any painter I knew had a different way of thinking about their work than I did ... more concerned with color and light and atmosphere.... I am always about objects and the way the materials feel when I use them .... I don't like how brushes feel .... too delicate--- squishy ....
I could get over these propensities and give my style of painting a shot ... but I guess other desires out rank painting so it keeps being shoved to the back burner.
On the contest ..... yeah I run into that too ...
I guess I have a lot of drawing that fit the evil within theme... but I don't know that you could tell by looking at them.
...on a side note ...
it is funny I have weird preferences I think for some reason Spirals and Swirls is my favorite group to submit work to .... but I rarely do anymore because my stuff isn't as curly as it use to be
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I don't think I got far enough into art school to notice any lines being drawn in the sand. Maybe the upperclassmen did, not us freshmen. I think the artists' social climate is what I missed out on more than learning technical skills. Although I'm sure I missed out on a lot of technical stuff too, especially if I were to specialize in say sculpture or printmaking. I was always of the opinion that art couldn't be taught, I think that's only partly true now. I wish my family gave me more input on my art. They've always been supportive, but not much in the way of constructive criticism. I'm pretty sure they didn't like my music though, especially when I used to jam in the living room with my friends :]
Probably 99% of my pen drawings are done without a pencil sketch or erasing or any plan at all. I think the surrealists called it automatic art, like their automatic writing. I know what you mean about brushes being too squishy, just another tool to get used to I guess. Paints can be reworked, and evolve with my ideas better than ink though. Digital is almost too easy to rework I guess, yet it wasn't til I started using it that I put so much forethought into my images.
That being said, my fetus pic has taken a bit of a turn. It was originally meant to represent a recurring dream I had as a kid, not so much anymore.
Also, I'm kinda in the same boat regarding Spirals and Swirls. I thought I'd be submitting to them twice a week in the beginning. I don't know where my scrolls went, I find myself trying to force them sometimes. I miss them.
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I was kind of an idiot when I was in school.... I got stuff from it but I think there are times in my life when I would have gotten a lot more.... maybe not though those were formative years.
I completely missed out on the whole making connections thing. The further I got in school the more I pulled away from everything and everyone. So I missed out on a huge component of the atmosphere. There were reasons .... but I think the main reason was, I was becoming more of an adult and my personality was beginning to surface.
Joe and I hung around with each other .... by Sophomore year we had already stopped socializing with anyone but each other .... it wasn't intentional it just kind of ended up that way.
Joe is an odd guy .... He doesn't talk to people usually unless responding to a specific question, and he doesn't make eye contact with others either... I don't know why I was an exception but I was ..... We talked a lot to each other ....
Because he was so quiet I think a lot of people thought he was the reason we were antisocial.... but it was my fault.
On the surface I seem like the opposite of Joe. I talk a lot, I'm friendly ... I make a lot of eye contact..... But
It is really hard for me to shield myself from others.... I am kind of like an exposed nerve that way. Instead of developing thicker skin I just pulled away.... I stayed where I felt safe ..... and that zone just got smaller and smaller.
I think I did a real disservice to Joe though.... I didn't hold him back, but when I could have been a bridge into social situations and connections... I wasn't....
I have made efforts to make some limited contact... but trust me my attempts are pathetic... and even people I think of as friends and remember fondly I get sketchy about making contact with .... well like that guy I shared a link to before... He was a really nice guy, and I consider him a friend .... but after years of passively watching his blog I decided to force myself to make contact (partially because Joe encouraged me to) and it was terrible trying to write a sentence that said -Hi this is Becky nice drawings-.... I hemmed and hawed and debated about how to introduce myself ... would he remember me ....is this too aloof .... is this too clingy.... it took 2 months before I wrote anything.... and what I wrote was sad....
If you met me you would not assume I had these problems .... I seem bubbly and engaging .... and that is really me too but ..... ??? Things get all fucked up in my head and I loose confidence....
So the connection element of school was a waste for me.
I look forward to your new piece
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