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Description So here's part 1 of the traditional 2 part Halloween/Ghostbusters pics. Check back alround Halloween for part 2 clinteast.deviantart.com/art/G… .

This is in reference to the fact Christopher Lee was supposed to play a ghost in the opening of Sweeney Todd but Tim Burton felt that the ballad of Sweeney Todd worked great as a opening to a play as the curtain rises but was pointless in a film.

Since we're on the topic and there's a lot of backlash towards Burton right now it seems like a good time to discuss my favorite director's body of work as a director.

Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure
Burton’s first feature film, never would have guessed. Although there are some moments (dream sequences) that do have his stamp all over them. As a kid I only ever saw the show once at a friend’s house. I knew Peep-Wee Herman more as that guy who was in trouble for doing something a theatre. To show how innocent I was back then, I was under the impression that he was sucking his thumb in public, lol. The film itself is great, it’s really funny and something I enjoy watching whenever I get the chance.

Beetlejuice
The first unmistakably Burton film, I don’t know how I was allowed to watch this at such a young age back I did… a lot. In fact it’s the first time I was ever aware of a film’s score and I even watched it just to listen to score sometimes. Michael Keaton created one of the most iconic characters in that film but did you know that Tim Burton’s first choice for the role was Sammy Davis Jr (who was Burton’s favorite actor as a kid, I know, weird). It was supposed to be a horror film but Burton and Keaton’s sensibilities changed it to a comedy. It has one of the most creative premises ever and I love it, even the cartoon. I’d love to see a Beetlejuice 2… AS LONG AS KEATON COMES BACK, if no Keaton then no movie.

Batman
I know, I’ve gone on and on about this movie. There’s not much to say, it is immediately what I think of when I hear Batman, I love almost everything about it and will continue to watch and enjoy it.

Edward Scissorhands
As a kid my only knowledge of this film was from a Bobby’s World episode that referenced it. I was fascinated by that and wanted to learn more about it. In middle school I finally watched it and I was not the same person afterwards, well actually I was the same but I truly loved it and can strongly remember how I felt about it. It’s one of my favorite films of all time and I think it’s Tim Burton’s masterpiece.

Batman Returns
Bascially the same as before about Batman. Although I will admit that this film is not perfect. There are a few moments (like when he baby Penguin eats a cat) that go too far but aside from those few moments I still love this film and think it’s a great batman film.

Ed Wood
If we’re talking technical then this is Burton’s best. I do feel like it’s a film anyone into film should see. It has one of the best performances by an actor of all time with Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi. It may not be the most accurate bio but it’s still one of the best and a very dear film to anyone who wants to make movies one day.

Mars Attacks
One of the few Burton films I don’t like and I’m not sure why it has all the elements that would seem to make me like it but it just doesn’t work for me. The cast is amazing but no one really stands out other than Nicholson in dual roles. I remember as a kid seeing a few seconds of this on tv and it really scaring me but my little sister was even more effected by it.

Sleepy Hollow
I remember back when this came out and wanting to see it, but again it was R rated. Just looking at the cover of the DVD was scary to me. We had the headless horseman toy which had some amazing detail on it. In high school I was finally able to rent it and it was similar to Jurassic Park in that it scared the crap out of me but I kept re-watching it. Having seen many Hammer films since then I really see the influence and think they did a great job capturing that style. I’d wish Burton would try and make some more of these horror films because despite his reputation (thanks to his visual style) he’s not normally a horror director. He shows the fun in the horrors. But still this is one of my favorite Burton films and one of those I find most don’t think about it but when you remind them of it, most have fond memories of it.

Planet of the Apes
My least favorite film of his, in my opinion his worst film. I hadn't seen the original but when I saw this I felt as though all the interesting aspects of this plot were glossed over. It’s a movie that just seems to go through the motions. Then I saw the Charlton Heston version and it was a revelation, so much better. I hear a lot of people say things like why did they pick him to direct this, his style is all wrong. I wouldn’t agree with that cause it deals with typical Burton themes of isolation and the outsider looking in on a society they aren’t in or don’t understand. I think the pre-production is telling, this is one of those films where every big name director signed at some point but left for one reason or another and as James Cameron put it they didn’t give Tim much time to work on it and make I his own. Even visually (Burton’s best part) it’s lackluster, the future and this ape society should have looked great but it’s just meh, that is this film's greatest crime in a nutshell, it’s boring. Danny Elfman’s score and Rick Baker’s make-up is the only good things about it.

Big Fish
My second favorite Burton film. My mom rented this from the video store and made us all watch it. I think everyone else thought it was ok, I thought it was great. After the visit was over and I went back to my dad’s house I told him there was a movie we needed to watch together. He ended up enjoying it too. This was also one of those movies I watched over and over, and I remember back when it came out and seeing the trailers. At this point I only vaguely knew who Tim Burton was and the trailer just looked too strange for me, I really wish I had gone to see this in theatres. It combines what Burton does best with something new for him which is always great to see an artist do. I know it’s based on a book and I want to read it if I can ever find a copy. The trailer called it a Wizard of Oz for a new generation, I’d call it a fantasy version of Forrest Gump.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
This film is passionally hated by some people and it’s easy to see why it’s a remake of the classic Wily Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, possibly even more well-loved than Planet of the Apes cause Wonka is a film most have seen at a very young age, I however did not. As a kid my cousin tried to get me to see it but the more he explained it, the more I didn’t want to see it until finally my sister was watching it and I didn’t know what it was but stayed and watched it and enjoyed it. Then the remake was announced and I was intrigued having just seen Big Fish and really discovering Burton at this point. I read the Raul Dahl book and even the sequel Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (which is an even stranger book) and I saw Burton’s remake and I like it more. The tone and events are closer to the book, I know many really didn’t like Depp but I enjoyed his performance, it was funny. The songs were great and I just really enjoyed it overall, even the added Wonka backstory. I still love the original too, I don’t see why I should pick on over the other but if I had to pick, ya Charlie all the way.

Corpse Bride
Another one I followed all the way from when it was announced to when it came out. I even read the Russian poem that inspired it. The poem is great by the way. When I first saw this, I didn’t like it and I’m not sure why, maybe I was in a bad mood when I went to go see it or something. But on multiple viewings I’ve enjoyed it more and more and now I really like it. The songs aren’t great but there are a few that are memorable. As a huge fan of stopmotion animation (it’s my favorite medium) I think this has the greatest stop motion (in technique) I’ve ever seen in a film, it’s so smooth, at times I wonder if it’s actually cgi.

Sweeney Todd
I don’t like musicals, they just don’t do it for me. But this is one of the few I like. I notice that this and Little Shop of Horrors (the only other musical I like) are both about blood and killing, not sure what that says about me. The songs are fantastic and I still sing them to myself randomly. The story and characters are great in that over-the-top gothic tragic way. This is like Sleepy Hollow in it’s gets forgotten until you remind people about it. I don’t normally like blood in movies, not that I’m squeamish or anything, I just don’t think it adds anything to the movie most of the time but this was similar to Dead Alive and Kill Bill vol.1 in that the blood was used more as a joke and was brought to absurd levels.

Alice in Wonderland
The big one, the most successful film in Burton’s career and what a lot of people right now call his worst, and I feel it’s… ok. Ya it’s not that good but it’s not that bad. Alice herself is a little boring but then again she almost always is. The world and characters look great, the biggest complaint is the story, it’s a sequel and calling it Alice in Wonderland was just deceptive. Also I really enjoyed the first 2 3rd’s but ya that last battle sequence was pointless and I don’t understand the idea of hiring Christopher, F@#%ING, DRACULA, NAZI KILLING, SAUROMAN, Lee to voice the Jabberwocky and only give him two lines before you cut out his tongue. I was disappointed to not see an opening sequence, Burton’s films always had this and it usually did a great job setting the tone before the film, this doesn’t have it. And about the beginning I bet they cut a lot out because the whole thing feels like it’s in fast forward mode. Overall I thought it was okay, not great but certainly not deserving of the level of hate it’s gotten. Also I find it interesting it got away with some of the things it did in a Disney film, the moat full of heads. Name any other director around today that Disney would let do that.

Dark Shadows
I remember watching reruns of Dark Shadows on the sci-fi channel (now syfy… for some reason) and I really enjoyed it, then I got distracted by reruns of The Real Ghostbusters on ABC Family. Point being I thought Burton was a great choice and didn’t hate the trailer, I was confused why they went in that direction but it still looked funny overall. I thought/hoped they were going for a Sleepy Hollow way with it but instead comedy. Like Alice I liked the first 2 3rd’s but that last 3rd… oh boy. It’s like they got to that point and realized that Dark Shadows had more than just vampires and were like lets throw them all in at once at the end. In fact one character turns out to be a werewolf which A is a dumb looking werewolf (surprising for Burton) and B while I was still willing to go with the idea she was a were wolf (even though there were no hints before this) but they ruined it by first by giving her a dumb line “I’m a werewolf, deal with it” and the explanation makes even less sense. It was cool to see Michelle Pfeiffer in a movie again and to see Johnny Depp hypnotize Dracula himself, Christopher Lee; other than those few highlights I can’t recommend this film.

Frankenweenie
As I first began to discover youtube, I began to find some of Burton's shorts like Vincent which I think is still think is one of his best and Frankenweenie which I thought was a fun little cute film. Then I heard about the remake and that it was going to be in stop-motion and was intrigued. I think it's his best film since Sweeney Todd, the voice acting was good all round, Winnoa Ryder can still sound like a child, amazing. The stop motion itself was fantastic and even better than Corpse Bride, the black and white photography blew me away but then again all his films are lit in a way that if you turn off the color on your tv they look as if they were always meant to be in black and white, and from that story you can tell just how eventful my childhood was. I liked how they worked in all the famous monsters like Frankenstein, Dracula, Wolfman, Mummy, Godzilla and even Gremlins into the climax. Sparky the dog is one of the best animals ever created in an animated film, so cute, so authentic, I wanted Sparky to be my dog. My only complaint is that something seems to be missing and I'm not sure what it was it just never quite grabbed me like Burton's films normally do but this did feel more like his older films. I was shocked how they treated Mr. Whiskers at the end, I know the characters didn't have much of a choice at the time but still it was shocking and when I'm saying that about a cat you know it's rather dark.

I know that Burton is working on Big Eyes now but I won't add that since these were all his directed film when this was drawn but if you're interested I'll find a way of getting my opinion of his other films out there since I'm sure he has plenty of other films in his future.

So there you go all of Burton’s directed films. He’s had his ups and downs but I still love seeing any film of his and look forward to whatever he does next.


I do not own any of these characters, they are owned by Columbia, Dic and Warner Bros.
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Comments: 28

mandarinmannen [2017-03-16 21:43:22 +0000 UTC]

I understand that Christopher Lee's death was a sorrow for him!

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TheWarOfTheRing [2016-08-18 18:51:48 +0000 UTC]

Didn't Burton direct the Nightmare Before Christmas?

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clinteast In reply to TheWarOfTheRing [2016-08-19 04:41:10 +0000 UTC]

No Henry Selick did, Burton produced, co-wrote and came up with the idea but was busy doing Batman Returns at the time so he gave it to Selick to direct because he trusted him.

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TheWarOfTheRing In reply to clinteast [2016-08-19 21:08:25 +0000 UTC]

Evidently, it worked. There's just so much Burton in the movie.

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clinteast In reply to TheWarOfTheRing [2016-08-19 23:59:10 +0000 UTC]

The way I always describe it, it's a Tim Burton film that just so happens to be directed by someone else (Henry Selick).

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mandarinmannen In reply to clinteast [2017-03-16 21:45:10 +0000 UTC]

Plus it's the best story he ever did! Even if he did not directed it!

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WickidlyStrange13 [2015-04-30 13:05:38 +0000 UTC]

Great

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TheLonleyAssassin [2013-11-03 01:51:04 +0000 UTC]

Hold on now, there's a man named Victor van Dort who needs you bunch quite desperately.

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clinteast In reply to TheLonleyAssassin [2013-11-03 02:50:07 +0000 UTC]

hmm….

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ksb78 [2013-09-09 22:49:07 +0000 UTC]

As much as I like Burton's films and am a fan, I really really really hope he stays far far far away from the up coming Ghostbusters film.

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clinteast In reply to ksb78 [2013-09-10 00:26:44 +0000 UTC]

I would too, his style wouldn't mesh well with the Ghostbusters' style.

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drac2000 [2012-12-24 03:34:54 +0000 UTC]

very nice i like beetlejuice, batman, batman, mars attacks and sleepy hollow but i even seen the others

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vinzol [2012-12-08 23:11:46 +0000 UTC]

There are other dark musicals, some that are bloody others that are psychological thrillers, and some that are plain weird. Like the ones that are bloody is Repo the genetic opera but that's more of a rock opera. Then there's Bat Boy, the one based off of the Weekly World News story, but that's darkly humorous. The psychological thriller is Jekyll and Hyde. I personally think it's music is better than Sweeney Todd's. And the weird one... It's the king and queen of all things darkly humorous, The Rocky Horror Picture Show or The Rocky Horror Show. I strongly suggest you look them up.

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clinteast In reply to vinzol [2012-12-09 01:20:21 +0000 UTC]

I havn't heard of any of those except for Repo which I've heard some reviews of what goes on in the film and it tells me it's probably something I wouldn't be interested in.

Also I have seen Rocky Horror Picture Show, it was a little too weird for my tastes but I'm still interested in attending the show at a nearby theatre.

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vinzol In reply to clinteast [2016-09-16 00:11:39 +0000 UTC]

Also Dracula by Frank wildhorn the music in that one is Gothic, I've also read it's a horror musical. I haven't seen it yet, but the music sounds good also it's by the same guy who did jekyll and Hyde. Also look up the jekyll and Hyde stage version with David Hasselhoff as both jekyll and Hyde. It's good.

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vinzol In reply to vinzol [2016-09-16 00:22:10 +0000 UTC]

PS the only musical I personally despise is the 1939 version of the wizard of Oz. If I had it my way I would burn every copy of that horrible interpretation of Oz. Why? Because it's not like the books.

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clinteast In reply to vinzol [2016-09-16 01:46:29 +0000 UTC]

David Hasselhoff as Jekyll and Hyde?!


You're right it's not a terribly accurate adaptation but I think it works as it's own thing.

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vinzol In reply to clinteast [2016-09-16 01:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Yep, as both jekyll and Hyde. The accurate thing is that about oz?

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clinteast In reply to vinzol [2016-09-16 03:49:53 +0000 UTC]

ya.

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JZFranklin [2012-10-30 02:48:12 +0000 UTC]

Burton is one of those "Hit or miss" directors either you love his movies or you hate them I for one think that he is one in a hundred. And Frankenweenie is a remake of a short film he made before he made Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure and I grew up watching it and loving it. For a Frankenstein rip-off it was as absurd as you can get, but it was fun.

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clinteast In reply to JZFranklin [2012-10-30 04:51:53 +0000 UTC]

I know, I just didn't feel like giving reviews of his shorts, mainly because I can include my feelings on his original in my review of the new Frankenweenie.

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MakiLotus [2012-10-29 16:11:43 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't too keen on Alice in Wonderland or Dark Shadows myself. Dark Shadows was enjoyable up to the scene when the police surrounded his house. I still wonder where all the cops disappeared to once they went back inside and why they didn't bother to do anything when Barnabas bit the witch lady (forgot her name). The ending was pretty.. Well.. Off. ._. Didn't seem to make too much sense to me, really. Seems like it would've been an enjoyable film if the ending wasn't so strange. Alice, though... It's not the fact it's a sequel to Alice, but more-so it just seems.. Hmm.. What's the word.. A little typical? With the whole weird message that they pretty much just blurt out... Too much CGI for my taste, too. The rest of his films, though, I definitely love. ^^ Especially Corpse Bride! <3 There's a few on that list I haven't seen (mostly due to ratings more than likely) but I'll get around to them at some point.

This picture is very funny. XD Maybe this is the real reason why the scene was cut..?

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clinteast In reply to MakiLotus [2012-10-29 17:22:24 +0000 UTC]

The cgi didn't bother me, it fit that kind of story, it actually was some of the better cgi I'd seen in recent years. It was was all about the story which I didn't think worked.

And ya that's the idea with the picture, also maybe explains why Christopher Lee is still so awesome despite being that old.

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MakiLotus In reply to clinteast [2012-10-29 18:03:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. The story was just kinda.. I don't know how to describe it, really besides what I said before, "Typical". XD And yeah, love the pic. Very funny. I Haven't seen Christopher Lee in anything outside of Tim Burton stuff, though. o.o (Except the Star Wars prequels if I remember correctly..)

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Gatlinggundemon9 [2012-10-29 15:40:47 +0000 UTC]

What about Nightmare before Christmas? He didn't direct it, but it still has his style.

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clinteast In reply to Gatlinggundemon9 [2012-10-31 04:08:31 +0000 UTC]

To finally answer your question [link] .

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Gatlinggundemon9 In reply to clinteast [2012-10-31 04:11:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh. Nice pic, BTW

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TheComicGirl [2012-10-28 21:44:22 +0000 UTC]

that's funny LoL

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