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When we were cast out from heaven, we were offered a choice. I know what mine is. What will yours be?

Meet Rohan, the poster-stallion for the breed I'm going to be creating. Oh yeah, that's happening. He's a big boy with a bit of a control problem but hey...at least he knows where he's going in life! I'll be posting more of the breed soon and no, they aren't fallen angels. You'll have to wait and see. I'm leaving a lot of it blank so I don't give too much away I had a lot of fun coming up with these guys and *Mirackles is going to be co-founder whether she likes it or not--so if you're interested keep an eye out for the upcoming group goodness.

Basic information is as follows...

ID: #1
Name: Rohan
Breed: Cavitto
Gender: Stallion
Age: 6 years
Path: Exalted
Power: Lightning
Color: Silver Grullo Tobiano
Genotype: EE/aa/Dd/ZZ/Tt/Ltn
Registry: Yes
Guardian: Stag - Not Shown -
Secondary powers: Light Manipulation
Path-Wings: Yes
Breeding: Closed.

Veratis Points: 100 (Foundation)

[link] - Mission Kindness - + 2

Total: 102

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Credits:

Reference: Mark J. Barrett
Texture: [link]
Originally designed by *sVa-BinaryStar
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Comments: 44

SomersetRaven [2013-12-08 19:07:34 +0000 UTC]

This is gorgeous! I love the shading, particularly around his crystals!

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PolarisAstrum [2013-01-04 16:45:34 +0000 UTC]

WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY AWESOME CHARACTERS? STOP IT! <33

Also, improvement my dear, you has it

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to PolarisAstrum [2013-01-05 00:07:27 +0000 UTC]

I'M SORRAY D8

thank you <3 I try!

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PolarisAstrum In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2013-01-05 16:27:42 +0000 UTC]

And you succeed

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LivingInThisFantasy [2012-12-18 22:10:17 +0000 UTC]

OHMIGOD MY SISTER TOLD ME ABOUT THIS PROJECT OF YOURS AND NOW I'M SO EXCITED! I THINK I'M GOING TO BLOW! *explodes*

He's so shiny and awesome! Really. I love him. :3

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to LivingInThisFantasy [2012-12-18 22:59:18 +0000 UTC]

! But if you blow up then it makes it really hard to look at art and stuff D: BUT I'M EXCITED TOO



^ Like that. I just have a couple more things to do and then I'll do get up a couple discoveries if people are interested/want one.

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LivingInThisFantasy In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-19 10:50:17 +0000 UTC]

BABIES! I'MMA JOINING YOUR GROUP NOW!

My I draw your Rohan? :3

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to LivingInThisFantasy [2012-12-19 17:33:42 +0000 UTC]

YES.

ALSO YES. If you want to. I'll get his actual reference up someday.

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LivingInThisFantasy In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-26 21:35:50 +0000 UTC]

YAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THAT PLEASURE OF DRAWING HIM!
Do you prefer to post first his reference before I start drawing him? :3

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to LivingInThisFantasy [2012-12-27 21:48:26 +0000 UTC]

Derp. I think I love you. Depends on when you wanted to draw him cuz I'm out of town now and can't do anything about it q.q Binary still has the sheet posted in her gallery somewhere I think though, or it's in my faves somewhere...xD /fails

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LivingInThisFantasy In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2013-01-06 20:46:07 +0000 UTC]

M'kay I see if I get something done soon.

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HylianWolfLink [2012-12-14 12:16:23 +0000 UTC]

OooooooOOOOO! I love him, he's such a studly stally, for sure I loooove his markings and his coloring and his mane and tail and his little glowy crystals Guh, he's just gorgeous!

Congrats on the new breed, love! I can't wait to see what it issss

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to HylianWolfLink [2012-12-14 22:42:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I need to set him up a real ref sheet soon without all those shiny gold bits xD I'm really excited about them. I suppose if you think about it they aren't super unique just by themselves but I tried to put a fun twist on the point-system and mutations.

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HylianWolfLink In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-17 15:11:01 +0000 UTC]

Haha yesss you should! So maybe I can draw him sometime It's unique to you, though! I always love seeing what kind of characters you come up with, they're all really gorgeous

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to HylianWolfLink [2012-12-17 17:23:46 +0000 UTC]

He shall have one as soon as I figure out how to draw a standing post with proper anatomy! So...possibly never.

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HylianWolfLink In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-19 16:31:17 +0000 UTC]

Uh pft gurl you got that. You don't credit yourself enough!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to HylianWolfLink [2012-12-19 17:32:22 +0000 UTC]

Well it's nice of you to say so! For some reason motion is easier to draw right now. xD

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HylianWolfLink In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-21 18:04:30 +0000 UTC]

Haha fair enough. Confirmation is scary

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casca-x [2012-12-12 14:34:12 +0000 UTC]

oh gosh this looks so lovely <33 i love the subtle purple tints you've used to shade his brown coat! it adds a lot of depth and life to him! (also jsyk in genetics the capital letter goes before the lowercase letter, and he also needs the dun gene in otder to be grullo. so it would be Tt, and he'd either be Dd or DD. c: )

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to casca-x [2012-12-12 17:15:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank yooou <3 I'm glad you think so! I was trying something new

Oh, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GENETICS When I was trying to figure out what he'd be I didn't think he needed the dun gene. Herpaderpadperp! Thank yoooou I appreciate you lots and lots <3 Me figuring out the genetics of these babies is going to be...uhm...with much flailing. I fix!

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casca-x In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-14 20:01:12 +0000 UTC]

it's okay, genetics are tough! and popular groups like the Nordanners do their genetics wrong so everyone learns incorrect genetics from them SO IT'S HARD TO BE RIGHT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO LEARN YOUR HORSE GENETICS FROM dA

let me know if you need any halps because i just got finished with a college-level genetics course SO I CAN TEACH YOU SO MANY THINGS YOUNG GRASSHOPPER

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to casca-x [2012-12-14 20:07:13 +0000 UTC]

Adjdjdk I would love if you would, cuz I am basing my genetics off theirs with the help of google of course. Halp, Casca. Halp. ._.

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casca-x In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-14 20:42:29 +0000 UTC]

okie dokie! Nordanners get most of the natural horse colors right, so it wouldn't be too bad to look at them for actual horse colors. Mostly their mutations just have impossible rules of inheritance (like how heterozygous Pwl horses can't pass on their gene to offspring, which is not how allele inheritance works) which results ultimately in some of their problems like the Pwl gene being bred essentially to the point of extinction without inbreeding.

here is the site that taught me everything about horse color genetics! [link] and of course wikipedia contains everything ya need to know [link]

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to casca-x [2012-12-14 21:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay that's good to know. I'm basically starting from zero with it so...I know literally nothing. How does allelle inheritance work, then? Because theeee....recessive gene, nPwl, doesn't pass without breeding to another nPwl or PwlPwl--what would it be in real life if they were to exist? Because with my breed I'd like to avoid that extinction issue. I mean, rareness is awesome but having to design new imports to refresh everything kinda sucks on the opposite side....

*reads* <3

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casca-x In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-16 21:15:59 +0000 UTC]

Let's say we've got a gene called "p" that makes your horse pink. :3

If it's dominant, the horse will express the gene ("be pink") whether he's got one or two copies of the gene or just one (Pp OR PP). If it's recessive, the gene will only be expressed if he has two copies (pp). Recessive genes always have lowercase letters, dominant are uppercase. c: Since the genes are made-up, you decide if you want your gene to be dominant or recessive. "Recessive" doesn't necessarily mean "rare" either-- chestnut is a recessive gene and it's the most common horse color! Let's pretend like P is dominant. c:

So inheritance-wise, you have to do a wee bit of probability (aka MAFFS ). Each parent has two copies of every gene, and they randomly give one to their baby. So the baby has one random gene from the mom, and one random gene from the dad.

Homozygous (PP or pp, get it, they're 'homos' because they have two of the same gene and homo people are two people of the same gender dating...? ok that's lame BUT IT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT ANYWAYS ) parents aren't too difficult. So if you breed together a mom who is PP and a dad who is also PP, the baby will of course always be PP (pink). (i am making myself laugh from typing 'pee-pee' so much oh god i'm a child). Same goes for pp mom, pp dad. Baby always pp(not pink). If one parent is PP and the other is pp, the baby will always inherit a P from one parent and a p from the other, so it'll always be Pp(pink if it's a dominant gene). Easy enough right?

Now things get a little tricky when you have heterozygous parents. If the mom is Pp, and the dad is also Pp, the baby could possibly inherit a P OR a p from either parent! so any baby genotype is possible-- the baby could be Pp, with the big P from mom, Pp with the big P from dad, PP, OR pp.


Basically, if you were say breeding together a Pp mom and a Pp dad and wanted to "realistically" decide if the baby should inherit the P-gene or not, flip a coin for the mom. Heads, the baby gets big P from mom, tails it gets little p. Then flip a coin again for Dad. c:

So the problem with Nordanners is that heterozygous nPwl horses can't pass on their gene, when IRL a heterozygous nPwl horse would pass on its gene 50% of the time-- this means Nordanners are cutting out half of their gene inheritance! D: which explains why Pwl is going extinct. If the chick in charge of Nordanner genetics wanted the mutation to stay rare, I would suggest a better idea would have been to make it recessive instead of dominant, or to make it be linked to another rare gene so a horse would have to randomly inherit TWO rare genes (but that's getting into gene linkage and chromosome length and stuff that's a bit more complicated than your average Googler's grasp so i will digress now )

tl;dr Allele inheritance is always RANDOM!! tell me if i need to clarify anything!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to casca-x [2012-12-16 22:18:06 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh Casca that was amazing PP 8DDDD

Ahem. Okay. I actually think I understand all that. YOU GREAT TEACHER I BOW TO YOU And that makes lots of sense about pwls, too. If I EVER GET A DARN MARE FOR THE STALLION D< remind me to give you one Um. Right RANDOM IS KEY. Fascinating.

So. To make this...easier on myself, and so I don't have to come back here and read this comment every time I gotta do something...I'm trying to think of a way to simplify it without going the Nordie route and having to always design new mutations to keep up (if it ever gets to that xD) Dom x Dom = Dominant, Recessive x Recessive = Random?

Whatchu think?

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casca-x In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-17 22:36:30 +0000 UTC]

yep, except recessive means "no mutation", i.e. pp. So recessive x recessive = no mutation. I think you have it right but "heterozygous" is the word you're looking for. Dom x dom = dom. Recessive (no mutation) x recessive (no mutation) = recessive (no mutation). Heterozygous x heterozygous = random. :3

Technically you have a 25% chance of dom, 25% chance of no mutation/recessive, and a 50% chance of heterozygous. But you could simplify it to equal chances of each if you wanted.

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Tweede-Kans [2012-12-12 12:09:56 +0000 UTC]

Oh, what a gorgeous boy! His markings and coloring is absolutely lovely!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to Tweede-Kans [2012-12-12 17:15:58 +0000 UTC]

ThankyouwhyareyoualwayssosweetgahIloveyouk<3

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Tweede-Kans In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-13 12:39:10 +0000 UTC]

KIloveyewtooandyou'resweeterthanme!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to Tweede-Kans [2012-12-13 18:20:22 +0000 UTC]

Thatisalieyoubigliaryou!

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Tweede-Kans In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-14 13:19:26 +0000 UTC]

AhIdonotlieneverliepshsillygooseyou!

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blanket86 [2012-12-12 10:57:36 +0000 UTC]

This is so great ! Very good photo! Beautiful colours!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to blanket86 [2012-12-12 17:16:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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ANIMALGIRL1869 [2012-12-12 05:35:12 +0000 UTC]

oh my ... he is handsome. Though i dont know if i could do his design.

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to ANIMALGIRL1869 [2012-12-12 05:37:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

He was a bit of a pain in the butt to draw but once I figured out his colors it wasn't so bad. He's probably not supposed to be that golden color but hell, I like it. I'll give him an official reference sheet at some point so he's not so intimidating. I can't wait to get started on these guys!

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ANIMALGIRL1869 In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-12 17:44:11 +0000 UTC]

YOu're welcome.


oh i bet.. but he looks awesome. I like him the way he is. oooo have fun making them

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to ANIMALGIRL1869 [2012-12-12 18:20:40 +0000 UTC]

I will. Maybe. I suck at genetics. You know this. Casca caught my mistake with him already, bless her. There probably won't be very many of these guys but... They'll be fun anyways. If you want one you let me know, k? <3

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ANIMALGIRL1869 In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-12 18:39:49 +0000 UTC]

awwwww dont worry.. i suck at genetics too. oh at least theres someone helping you with it.. oh yes..always fun oh i dont know if id want one..but will let you know sweety

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to ANIMALGIRL1869 [2012-12-12 18:49:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they're...strange. But we'll figure it out eventually! Haha don't feel bad if not <3

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ANIMALGIRL1869 In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-12 19:10:35 +0000 UTC]

they are confusing to me. lol..

thank you though..

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LumiMoon [2012-12-12 05:06:11 +0000 UTC]

I <3 him! !!

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Cloudrunner64 In reply to LumiMoon [2012-12-12 05:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Fastest comment in the west! Thank you. <3

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LumiMoon In reply to Cloudrunner64 [2012-12-12 05:28:25 +0000 UTC]

no problem.

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