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Description Hey folks, here's a set of characters I did for a possible comic strip I'm thinking of working on. I did them in hopes of distracting myself from the funk I'm suffering. *

*I deleted the rest of my comment here. Needless to say, what I said was quite grim (as many of the comments below may attest to), a bit too grim for my liking. I suffer quite a bit from depression, often stemming from the question as to the quality of my work. I am not Mr. Confidence.
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cluedog In reply to ??? [2011-06-15 23:01:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I have chronic depressive episodes, so drawing this collection of characters was my attempt of getting out of a funk. It certainly allowed me to use my cartooning side. I wouldn't mind returning to these characters at some point.

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MetaKaios [2010-09-14 07:23:04 +0000 UTC]

Any particular reason you seem to like characters with... protruding front teeth? Do you have them? Or do you just feel that people with them are under-represented?

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polegnyn [2010-08-31 04:30:08 +0000 UTC]

Sorry to hear you're in a funk. **hang in there hugs** Feel free to message or email if you need anything. And I understand the desire to make waves in your creative field, but at the end of the day you have to do things like this that make yourself happy. Your passion and dedication to your work is what will draw people's attention.

Regarding these illustrations themselves... These are nice and fresh compared to your other drawings, in my opinion. The simplified form works well with your hatching, and it's cool to see younger versions of your characters. I haven't followed your work since we had those couple classes together, but these make me wonder what happened to your characters to make them into who they are now.

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cluedog In reply to polegnyn [2010-09-12 23:04:13 +0000 UTC]

I appreciate the offer, Amy. Art is my madness and it's one that I'd prefer never to be cured of. Thank you so much for the comment.

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cince [2010-08-30 21:11:46 +0000 UTC]

Try and try and try and try and try, over and over again. And if you won't get anything, then change the way to face the situation. There's always the way to make it, don't surrender!

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cluedog In reply to cince [2010-09-12 23:05:13 +0000 UTC]

I haven't surrendered yet. I'm going to send "Miss Doomsday" to some more publishers. I'm even working on a mock cover for the first issue.

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cybereena [2010-08-30 20:39:00 +0000 UTC]

my gosh you are so talented. age is only a relative thing. a human construct. and worthless is relative too. how do you judge success? it certainly is not by these lovely drawings. besides an artist draws for the joy of it. to please themselves (and adoring fans). screw the publishers. if they could draw they would and not be publishers. <3 cyerbeena

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cluedog In reply to cybereena [2010-09-12 23:10:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the supportive comment. I'm feeling a bit better now. I've been drawing quite a bit and hope to be submitting some more work soon. I'm also going to submit "Miss Doomsday" to some more publishers. I'll have to see what happens.

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cybereena In reply to cluedog [2010-09-13 23:44:38 +0000 UTC]

Best o luck on the submission. (curious as to how that sounds) Anyway, waiting for your next lovely post. <3 cy

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Marker-Mistress [2010-08-30 19:31:41 +0000 UTC]

Here's where I'm gonna lay down a little tough love (well not too much on the tough).

We both know that making it in the art world is a bit of a gamble, but knowing that you have friends and people that believe in the work we do should be enough to satisfy us. Yeah neither of us are big names and who knows, we never will be. But you shouldn't feel like you've wasted your time with anything you've put your pen to, or the opposite. But submitting your work to as far as I know one publisher won't increase your chances of hitting it big. You have to be constantly proactive in getting your name (and work) out there by any means necessary. I've taken to getting business cards drawn up and left them around town, everywhere I went. It's a start, but at least it gives you a chance to strike up the opportunity to find someone who knows someone. If I've learned anything in my life, its by talking to people and getting yourself out there that you find the unexpected. Networking is your best friend, believe me as an artist you have to stand up and sell yourself because you are a business person, none of us can escape that.
In any case, I do understand the kind of crap you're feeling and it's hard to get over sometimes because its so overwhelming. But you're a good person and a talented hard working individual, and if you just keep at it you will get the attention you deserve and more. I'm starting to realize that the positive thinking crap I used to throw off as a joke really does work.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. Hopefully I wasn't too much of a Debbie Downer

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cluedog In reply to Marker-Mistress [2010-09-12 23:12:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the tough love. Those are some wise words, actually. I'm much too timid in the submission process I'm feeling a bit better now and have been drawing up a storm. I'm also working on a cover for the first "Miss Doomsday" as well.

You weren't rambling, nor were you a Debbie Downer. Your comment, for me, was a lot of help.

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multimaree [2010-08-30 14:53:09 +0000 UTC]

Zac, honey, your first step needs to be to see a doctor, and get some medical advice. As others have said here, sometimes depression has a physical component. And sometimes, it helps to also get some advice to help you get your head straight. As for your talents, you can obviously draw. Maybe see about picking up a gig as an art teacher in a local school, or something. See if a local assisted living facility for seniors would let you come in one afternoon to volunteer to draw funny portraits of the residents to make them *and you* smile a little! Get some success, whatever the size, under your belt to move you forward. Hang in there! - Paula

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cluedog In reply to multimaree [2010-09-12 23:18:59 +0000 UTC]

For a second there, Paula, I thought you were suggesting I check into a local assisted living facility for seniors.

I appreciate the advice. Believe me, I'm looking into it.

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multimaree In reply to cluedog [2010-09-14 08:14:47 +0000 UTC]

There ya go, hon... Hope this finds you feeling better, and your situation a little more positive! - Paula

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vaelvictus [2010-08-30 04:30:18 +0000 UTC]

I know how you feel. I spent two years learning PHP and making a game just to have it not amount to a whole lot. I'm making a second now and it's incredibly scary, you work so hard and it could all just flop because people don't enjoy it. All your comic strips, pages, whatever you do, it feels like such a gamble at times. But, I just figure, everyone who got where they are, began where they were. I'm still really young and I don't know your age, but all I can say is to just keep on truckin'. =/ at least financially, try to save up money with a job and then have your project along the side waiting to make you money or something. x.x; Anyway that's my advice.

It's good to see people who try and aspire to something more than what they 'have' to do in life - college, training, whatever they have to do. Then just settling into a job... real men take risks, here's to hoping our risks are just a bit more calculated to justify the time spent.

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cluedog In reply to vaelvictus [2010-09-12 23:20:39 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the advice. You're right, you have to take risks, or you won't get very far in life. I've always been a timid lad, and breaking into the comic field is a veritable minefield. I haven't given up yet. Just wish I was a bit bolder.

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SHarles25 [2010-08-30 02:12:13 +0000 UTC]

to see success in others without counting all the one you have in our hearts, so many people love you and your drawings!

I know the grass may always look greener on the others side but remember, do you really need a greener grass when the fact to simply having belonging to you a nice backyard for it is already far more than many other that could wish for having it, I mean your undeaniable talent for drawing.

I wish I could draw like you, to have faith into my skills and be able to draw nice portraits or simply a nice looking comic out of thin air or even a story I read!

As far I know, someday you may acheive your goals, but never feel helpless or regret anything you have done as long there is people to love what you do, I beleive in you and I am more thana certain MANY others think like me, no matter how failure hurt we all have to go on and live with it, learn about it and rise bigger and stronger!

I wish, I had the proper words to cheer you up dude, but I know you can be above an wanabes and casual artists here that sell or give poor quality stuffs all around internet.

i must say thank you for sharing your state of mind with all your fans, its rare a man share is feelings and I know how hard it is, may your mind clear these dark moments from memory as quickly you will come up with something new and interresting as it always been!

cheer up Zack!!!!

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cluedog In reply to SHarles25 [2010-09-12 23:41:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment. I haven't given up yet and I'm feeling better now. Drawing is a passion for me, one that I've never given up on, at least, not for long. I deeply appreciate the support.

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SHarles25 In reply to cluedog [2010-09-13 01:41:12 +0000 UTC]

It cheer me up you actually read that comment since I wasn't sure how you was feeling now and I felt not able to talk with you about it.

I am happy you will not give up, many poeples have faith and really beleive you will acheive your dream as long you manage to keep up then rise and stand tall after each fall.

Like they say, if it doesn't kill you, it make you stronger!

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ivansivak [2010-08-30 01:29:31 +0000 UTC]

Never give up, my friend!

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cluedog In reply to ivansivak [2010-09-12 23:05:33 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I haven't given up yet.

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Destructotorium [2010-08-29 17:32:46 +0000 UTC]

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cluedog In reply to Destructotorium [2010-09-12 23:05:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much.

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Levia-the-Dragon [2010-08-29 12:55:02 +0000 UTC]

Morbid... but true...

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Ifrit9 [2010-08-29 11:42:47 +0000 UTC]

Nicely done dude :3

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cluedog In reply to Ifrit9 [2010-09-12 23:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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flipupsky [2010-08-29 05:50:33 +0000 UTC]

Your stuff is real good and you have made a real inpact on the tg comunity. that would a good plase to start selling some of your work!

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TrashME [2010-08-29 03:26:26 +0000 UTC]

I really wish I knew what to say about the depression, God knows how many times I've gone through it myself. I know it's frustrating, but I've never been too good at picking myself out of it either... I really love your drawings, by the way. Have you ever considered finding an agent? Or even selling work in art fairs and the like? I've never tried it myself, but I know quite a few people in my area who've had success with that.

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cluedog In reply to TrashME [2010-09-12 23:42:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much, Morgan. I do need to get more of my works out there. I tend to be a bit shy about my art. I haven't given up, though.

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TrashME In reply to cluedog [2010-09-30 01:33:10 +0000 UTC]

You and me both, man!

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JillianNC [2010-08-29 03:17:18 +0000 UTC]

Even your sketches and odds and ends are amazing! It would be a shame to give that up, you know...

The problem with suicide is that it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. At least you're letting folks know how you feel. I didn't and it nearly ruined my life. (Ever hear of "suicide by cop" or "police-assisted suicide"? Not fun.) Fortunately for me (and others, it turned out), I was as big a failure at offing myself as I FELT I was at everything else. I survived. Not without pain, and not without loss, but I survived. You can survive this to, if you'll let yourself. Send a note if you ever need to talk.

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DiegoTripodi [2010-08-29 00:56:55 +0000 UTC]

I hope things get better for you, Zac. I sincerely think that ~msinabottle mentioned a few options that can help making you feel better, and get back on your feet. Courage, brother. And blessings.

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cluedog In reply to DiegoTripodi [2010-09-03 20:20:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, Diego. The biggest source of depression for me is my own feelings about my art. I've always felt that artists look down on me and that I've never been that good as an artist. Needless to say, it's made the submission process a difficult one for me.

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Regreme [2010-08-29 00:09:00 +0000 UTC]

I'm really sorry to hear that things are going so badly with you. Is there anything us fans can do to help?

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cluedog In reply to Regreme [2010-09-12 23:21:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I'm afraid there isn't much you or other can do to help, but the offer is appreciated.

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Regreme In reply to cluedog [2010-09-12 23:25:18 +0000 UTC]

^_^

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JadeGL [2010-08-28 23:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Zak if this depression continues you should go to some doctor, some depressions are for unbalance in your inner chemistry. I hope you start feeling good soon and the problems you have in your life stop.
Now, for the publishing stuff you were talking about, like the other guys all I have to tell you is to keep going. I bet I'm older than you but I still have the same dream and still trying.
You can't get sad because you sent your work to only one publisher and expect to get into the world of comics at the first try (assuming this is the first time you're doing it), for some artists it takes years to get what they want.
There's something I'm not sure you're aware in comics, but there are publishers and publishers. I think the style you're working with right now is more appropriate for indies and underground comics (my humble opinion), I mean stuff like Opey. If you want to get into superheroes, then, sadly to say you may need to work more into fit your style in what they tend to publish in their own editorials. Publishers have like a pattern and they tend to stick with such pattern, if your stuff doesn't fit it, then they won't like it even if it's better than the stuff they're doing right now. That's why I think interesting works like yours have more chance in indies that are more free style.

Cheers man.

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Kloob [2010-08-28 23:13:06 +0000 UTC]

I think you have to keep submitting your work to publishers. There's hundreds of them out there and yet only a handful of the stuff that lands on their laps is of a publishable quality and if I compare your comics to comics I own then you definitely fall into that category. You have a unique style, a strong sense of design, skill in figure drawing, perspective and shading and a deft comic touch. In short you're work is far from meaningless. Everything you post entertains the people who add comments. For each of them there's probably more who don't even comment but still enjoy it.

Sorry to go on but I think you should see the worth in your art and show it to as many publishers as possible. And keep drawing and keep sending out more. Only if you keep trying can something good come of it. I hope this doesn't sound trite or unbelievably optimistic, but the future holds any number of possibilities. I believe that.

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DarkSamuraiX1999 [2010-08-28 23:01:11 +0000 UTC]

Hey Zac you're more than what you see yourself as. You need someone to talk to I'm here and so are all your friends

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cluedog In reply to DarkSamuraiX1999 [2010-09-02 21:21:35 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much.

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DarkSamuraiX1999 In reply to cluedog [2010-09-03 02:41:57 +0000 UTC]

Not a problem bud ^^

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LarryKingUndead [2010-08-28 22:49:10 +0000 UTC]

Zac I know you how you feel. But you are a talented creator, who has a lot of talent, you have to keep on trying, you can't give up. Getting down in a emotional slump happens, you have to fight it, if you don't it will consume you. You can't give in Zac. Fight dammit!

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cluedog In reply to LarryKingUndead [2010-09-02 21:21:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, Larry. I haven't given up yet. I just get deeply depressed at times about the state of my art and where I am in the great chain of the art world (somewhere near the bottom). It's a hard place to be but I haven't quit yet. I love drawing too much.

You're a great guy, Larry.

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LarryKingUndead In reply to cluedog [2010-09-03 01:03:07 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome Zac. I doesn't matter what your pole postion is in the comic book world. You have a fan base I would kill for. Do you think Bryan Lee O'Maley hit it out of the park right away? No, he had to slog through the medium to get to Scott Pilgrim. Opey, and Anne are fantastic creations that you have to champion. Submit and keep on submitting to everyone. Go to comic cons, go to a local print shop and print off a cheap black and white issue one mini comic for both Opey and Doomsday, so you can build intrest in them at cons. Try everything Zac. I have faith in you, and your creations.

You are too kind my friend. Anytime you need to talk, just note me.

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tf-tg-favs [2010-08-28 22:42:14 +0000 UTC]

Aw, don't feel like that... you've certainly made a wave within the TG community anyway, with your sequences, which, in my opinion, are some of the best I've EVER seen, despite only being in black and white! The things you can do with shading are... simply unbelievable.

Believe me, if you disappeared, lots of people would be really sad, including me.

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cluedog In reply to tf-tg-favs [2010-09-02 21:19:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the kind words. With the greatest respect, though, I often feel the "TG community" takes me for granted, though. When I need help or support, most of it can't be found. And they don't support my other works. It's just free art a lot of them cling for. I'm not speaking about individuals like you or those great people who have commissioned me in the past. I'm grateful for your support.

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tf-tg-favs In reply to cluedog [2010-09-03 00:02:36 +0000 UTC]

I totally understand where you're coming from, and that's the problem with drawing "Fetish" material (and don't mistake it for anything but). I have a bit of experience dealing with the TG community in general, and while there are a lot of nice, friendly people who do mean well, a lot of people simply choose not to say anything because they prefer to remain anonymous, because of the "touchy" nature of the whole thing. It boils all the way down to human sexuality and how people sometimes tend to hide behind their fetishes in a secretive manner, refusing to post comments or join websites or anything like that, simply out of the fear that someone else is going to "catch" them and find out their secret.

It's quite a confusing, complicated topic, but yes, I understand that you probably feel taken advantage of. All I can say is, you have a lot of "fans" that are unspoken; they really love your work and would miss you if you left, but you'll never hear a peep out of them.

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cluedog In reply to tf-tg-favs [2010-10-01 15:24:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I figured that my style is so unique, why attempt to hide my true identity in the TG community? It may have damned me professionally but at least I'm honest.

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MensjeDeZeemeermin [2010-08-28 22:41:01 +0000 UTC]

I'd see someone about depression, a lot of that sort of feeling is chemical. Get out and meet people, find places where you can help others, fix things, remember your sense of self-worth. You're a very talented artist and a good visualizer, I hate to see someone with superior talent feeling inferior.

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cluedog In reply to MensjeDeZeemeermin [2010-09-02 21:14:33 +0000 UTC]

Thanks and with regards to seeking help for my chronic depression, I am. I do have low self-worth, as I often view my art and see a multitude of flaws. I always feel the professional artists out there look down on me, like some art student or artistic wannabe without a clue. It can be hard for me to deal with at times.

I appreciate the support, by the way.

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