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Cocoz42 — After Kirkwall- Not just a nightmare
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I suffered severe PTSD from this game...my plan is to draw three pieces of these...hopefully I can finish them.It seems that I need to state my intention of this piece. Of course I understand many people don't like Anders at all, so they won't be upset about the ending. I did this painting because I like him for who he was, and feel sad and angry for who he is...Call me Mary Sue, I did get hurt by how the story went, and I can't do anything to change it or prevent it. It's sad that the situation forced you to make the calls. When every answer is killing him in the end, I can't do it, this is the only difference I can make in this game.
However I think not killing Anders is selfish somehow. I can't image how somebody keeps living with that guilt and with his love loves him from mercy... It seems hopeless. Maybe letting him die is more mercy. I can't decide for him.
I want a way out from this PTSD the game give me, and yes, it's ridiculous to be so serious about it. This painting is step one of getting better, that's all I need to state.
Second one has been finished today, check here【nude/sex content alert】darth-coco.deviantart.com/art/…
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I think this is one of the best pieces of art I've ever seen in portraying the events after Kirkwall. The emotion is just staggering, and whether you're a fan of Anders or not, you have to feel compassion and pity for the man after looking at this work. Really amazing
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I've played this game so many times I've lost track. I've tried to side with the Templars, to get all the sides, and I just... I cannot handle it. I relate far too much to the mages. I can kinda understand where the Templars are coming from but damn, I cannot ever justify what the mages go through. I can't kill Anders, and I'm constantly exploring ideas through fanfiction on how to make it better for him after.
Meredith had already called for the Right of Annulment, the Grand Cleric was never going to be neutral she was always for the Templars and Cullen says so, the Divine was going to basically do an exalted March on all of Kirkwall and considered the mages that big a threat worse than when the qunari invaded.... by blowing up the Chantry, Anders saved the most lives. He gave the mages a chance to survive, the Divine couldn't do her march... I've analyzed it so much I feel like there would have been so much more death otherwise....
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There's no absolutely perfection outcome, that's dragon age about, I think.
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Yup... sometimes a little too realistic in that aspect!
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I don't know how many times i played this game, but i remember the first time when I hated him, but as the time change so am i..
In the other gametimes i romanced with him, and just couldn't hurt him. He and the mages in Dragon Age universe have suffered a lot, so i understand he was so angry, and upset, and all negative feels just found him. I'm not saying his decision was right, moreover it was bad.. but i still love him so much: )
Your artwork here is amazing. Love this style so much, and it's full of emotions! Just simply amazing! : )
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I only just started playing chapter 2 and all I can say is of all the characters in this game Hawke is the one I am not that fond of. Weird, I know. Great art by the way.
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wow this is a beautiful piece! Love the colors.
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Most people see Anders as a monster, but in a way I see him as a hero, for some mages the circle was a good thing, for others it was not so bad and not so good, but for others it was hell, for those few he is a hero, after all he started the war for freedom, as it was his plan all along, I wish he had blew the templars instead of the defenseless sisters of the Chantry, but still it was a move no other mage had the guts to do...
Uldred Broke the Tower...
Decimus burned down Starkhaven Circle...
Anders gave mages a reason to fight, only he made a difference to all mages.
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Yeah man me too, but my point is in his favor, even if I think what he did was stupid at least he was the only one with the guts to do it... Still wish he had blown up the templars instead of unarmed chantry ladies.
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let's look forward to the next generation's epic fight between human and elves.
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I'm glad I'm not alone in my end of the game Anders feels. Your piece really captures the raw anguish and patient grace of the characters after that particular game ending. Wow.
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Thank you for the comment. Glad that you like my work.
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Just came across this, it's really great! Poor Anders...
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First things first, about the piece, it's very emotional, the poses, especially Anders' pose,are... they just work unimaginably well. As does the scenery. I see a really great balance of feeling and technique in this. I love the barren landscape and how it seems a tiny bit less real than the characters... Don't know if it's intentional or not, but works for me. Not really anything bad to say about it, but I had to say my compliments at least.
I just finished the game a month ago and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one deeply affected by the ending. Or, well, many are, but... It made me think a lot, it's not every or every other story that dares to even go where DA2 went with Anders. He gave a face to terrorism and desperate people who do desperate, unforgivable acts, not out of some impulse of evil but for human reasons, when all else has been tried and failed. Not that this is the only truth about terrorism but it is one. I was very emotionally tangled with the momeent but I couldn't kill him either out of mercy or wrath. People who do unforgivable things trusting they won't live to see the full effect deserve a life. His life is probably constant hell afterwards, but living it and perhaps trying to do some good with the rest of it is the closest thing to both punishment and salvation he could get. My Hawke stayed with him also. And a great saga of head canon was born...
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Thank you for the comment. So glad that you like my work.
I want to make this into a 3 or 4 piece set, only half been finished.
Your comment brings me back to DA2 again, which is not an entirely happy mood. However, that's why DA2 is a great video game.
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You're welcome. I'm curous to see the rest - I looked up the other piece you linked here, but I take it the others are still unfinished?
Yes, it's not a feel-good game... And I'm kind of still shaken and feel a need to discuss it with anyone who will humor me. I think it'll stay with me for a while yet.
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I hope I can finish them soon.
I know what you felt after DA2, I have been there, you'll get through.
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Truly amazing. I usually only like Anders/M!Hawke fan art. But I can really appreciate the emotions in this one. I killed Anders in my first play-through because I had no other choice. But I could never do that again. In my other play through, I'd always romance him and choose to run away with him.
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Male or female, always loves him and runs with him, but with a broken heart. Thanks for the comment~
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Thank you~ and happy new year.
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You're welcome ! happy new year too ^^
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This is truly an emotional and stunning piece!
Great work!
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I feel the same. Anders is always what I choose. <3
I have played this game 10 times and i still ugh. I can't kill him. He just wanted to help and he became this tormented abomination...He can't even drink anymore 
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Thanks a lot. I would like to play Awaken resent
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the DAO DLC? Awakening?
Anders was a bit loftier in it. he didnt have such a big burden and still in love with cats XD It never actually says that he lets justic inside him in awakening. thats something that happened after awakening and before 2.
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I absolutely love this, it's beautiful! Personally, I loved the development of his character and how much taking in Justice changed him. I also completely condone and agree with his choices in DA2, to be completely honest. War was inevitable. Sure, Elthina died, but she was in no way innocent in my eyes;the Templars are just a military branch of the chantry and she did nothing to stop oppression while she was in an influential position. And, those who condone oppression are just as bad as the oppressors- she was too complacent. This piece is beautiful, absolutely love it!
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Took the words out of my mouth. I have problems siding with the Templars. And a war was going to happen. Elthina was one of the casualties. And apathy is just as bad. She could have done something! Even if it wasn't huge sweeping gestures but she did nothing! Pointedly. All throughout origins and awakening I was thinking that mages were severely mistreated. And I was hoping that something would happen to provoke change and take the chantry and Templars power away. I really don't like the chantry and templars. It isn't the religion that I don't like it is the control and power and army, ARMY that they lure over people. Anyway enough ranting
And this is from the wikia said "Jennifer Hepler describes the choice of keeping Anders alive as "poetic justice", as he would have to face and suffer the knowledge of the lives he took. She also states her belief that he wishes death so that the people whom he killed receive justice as well."
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Ander…
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I agree! Elthina could have done anything, and neutrality when there is a power imbalance is not true neutrality-it's choosing the side of those in power. I can't stand the Chantry. I don't really like the templars, but there is also the problem that they literally start indoctrinating some templars when they are children, and the Chantry holding a monopoly on lyrium trade doesn't allow templars to speak out against their superiors because they'll go "insane" without it. It's just a really, really shitty situation for all those involved, and while mages get bullet, the gun really recoils hard, especially on nonandrastians. Taking the chantry out of a position of political power would be extremely beneficial for Thedas and since the war was going to happen no matter what, I believe Anders only sped the vote that started the war up, and in the long term less lives would be negatively effected because of it.
I wish I could say I'm surprised that Hepler said that first part. I really don't like her and her treatment of Anders. He and his romance,as she said, were written as rivalmance was the /one true path/. Which is really, really shitty considering the rivalmances themselves as a whole, are essentially glorified abuse. Not to mention that Anders was written to represent mental illness, and the whole idea of a mercy killing rubs me so wrong at the thought, as a mentally ill person. And if you're his friend at the end of DA2 he is relieved that Hawke doesn't kill him, which makes a lot of sense considering he isn't being belittled and ignored to the same extent as he is when rivalmanced.
There are a lot of things I could nitpick about Anders,his attitude toward Velanna,consistent probing of Fenris(which is so ironic since they're alike), or the way he treats Merril because of her blood magic, but personally his actions are not one of them.
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i actually liked what helper said about him. Keeping him alive means he has to continue what he started and try to clean up the mess he made (whetherthe mess was needed or not).
Its the politics and power the chantry has that i don't like. Not the religion itselfs. I think they need a big reformation. ...Anyway.
I haven't seen or read anything about the core being rivalmance or the mental illness. So I don't know anything there.
Personally mine was a friendmance. And I kept my hawk and anders together.
I am injoying playing Inquisition at the moment.
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Yeaaap, Anders started it and he should take part in dealing with it. I can't imagine doing something like he did and then not seeing through to the end it just seems... out of character. Not becoming some martyr instead of witnessing the consequences of one's actions.
And yes, Anders and Justice were written to represent Bipolar disorder/Manic depression. If I recall correctly, Hepler herself said it.
You're a lucky duck, I'm still waiting on my da:i copy to arrive! D: G'luck
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A good game or a good story, is that one that manages to make you cry and suffer at the end.
Playing this game gave me depression, that lasted very shortly. god damn it anders...
i dose feel like in this game you don't have so many options like in the original
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Thank you for the comment, and let's wait for Inquisition.
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Oh god this is so powerful and beautiful. I love Anders so much and I constantly struggle with the emotions over who he used to be and what he became. Thank you for making this beautiful piece of art.
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:] Thank you very much. I'm afraid that I can't love anyone else in Dragon Age world.
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