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Published: 2007-10-06 15:39:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 2221; Favourites: 15; Downloads: 12
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What is likely to be the next terrorist target(s)?Well, schools, colleges and hospitals are liberal bastions and virtually gun free. Thank god there is a strong push to protect those places -- uh, that's right. There isn't.
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You eptiomize my caption. Thanks. It is why I invite dissent.
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What part of "Gun deaths are at an all-time high" don't you understand?
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If guns didn't exist, people would easily find new and other ways of murder. Maybe we oughta take steak knives from people...
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You think I haven't heard this one from the gun camp before? I dare you to find me something attainable by civilians with the destructive force of a firearm.
You think the Virginia Tech guy could have killed 32 people with a steak knife? Steak knives are used to cut steak. Guns were expressly designed to kill living things.
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"I dare you to find me something attainable by civilians with the destructive force of a firearm."
Defense of family, self and home. I would think twice about breaking an entering into someone's home if the average household was armed...
Granted, a person would have a hard time committing mass murder.
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I would think twice about robbing a house if I had a steak knife therefore if guns did not exist then it would be easier to defend yourself.
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Blame the Chinese for the gun powder I suppose.
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Gun rights are the biggest catch-22 in modern society. Although I innately support gun control, I have a hard time explaining why. It does make a lot of sense for people who want to defend their family and home against criminals. Personally, I'd say that the best solution would be to try and root out the poverty, cultural misinformation, hopelessness, and misdirected rage that leads to crime, but in the short run, guns are almost a necessary evil.
However, this leads to everybody saying "I need a gun, because WHAT IF?" This leads to a populace where the majority is armed to kill, which only jacks up the paranoia even further. The media are no help at all, leading off every day with the day's murders and rapes. It's a vicious cycle, to be sure, but I can't buy the "more guns, less crime" argument that conservatoons tried to foist on me. People in general are not mature enough to walk around armed.
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I think I have to agree with you about the maturity issue. I think what we're seeing is the result of the lack of absolute values, standards and morals. You know, that "Do what ever feels right" nonsense.
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Amen to that. And then when you try to tell the freaks off, they accuse you of "infringing on their rights".
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What part of "It's OK for govt to have guns, but not the people?" don't you understand?
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I specifically told that I want cops, the enforcement arm of the govt, to have guns. They need guns. Joe Blow from down the street does not, and he shouldn't give him. If you're not a cop, hunter, bodyguard, etc., you have no need for a gun. Answer this: do you treasure the right to guns more the lives of gun victims?
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Yeah, people in their homes don't need guns to defend themselves.
Not everyone has immediate access to law enforcement. Where I live, the nearest cop is usually an hour away.
Look, if the guy is a killer, he'll get a gun or any weapon for that matter and kill you. If a person owns an arsenal of weapons, including guns, but is a good person, what do you have to fear?
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I know plenty of good gun owners. They're not the ones I'm worried about. As I told conservatoons, gun deaths are riding at an all-time high. No other country treasures the right to guns as much as the USA, and it shows in the obituaries.
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So gun restrictions haven't helped at all. Maybe more restrictions isn't the solution.
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I don't think that gun use is as restricted as you think. Last time I checked, any American adult could walk into a gun shop and buy a gun. I don't trust the "arm everyone" argument that some pro-gun people employ. I'm sure you know some people you would run and hide from if they were allowed to pack heat. Many people are smart enough to handle guns responsibly. Some aren't. Those who aren't murder others freely. I live in Chicago, and about 23 students have been shot in FOUR MONTHS. What's wrong with this picture?
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"Some aren't. Those who aren't murder others freely."
Being stupid with a gun doesn't mean you murder people...
Ok, I don't believe that everyone should have a gun. Like folks who have committed violent felonies and such. Which I think is law. I don't want a murderer to have a gun again. (And I actually believe that he/she should receive the death penality for such a crime, but that's another topic altogether.)
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Well, I know ex-felons and convicts can't buy guns, but I thought that was obvious enough not to point out.
Death penalty? Ehhh...I'm on the fence. On one end, I imagine it costs our country a whole lot to feed and clothe an imprisoned Ted Kaczynski than it does to just kill him off. And it feels very gratifying and just to punish the most vile criminals among us with what they did to their victims. But I worry that I'm giving into mindless bloodlust. And what good does it really do anybody?
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Right.
Let's see... I'm not wasting my tax dollars on the guy and he won't ever be able to murder another person.
If you let people know ahead a time, that murdering another person will earn you a lethal injection, and then they go ahead and commit murder, then they get what they deserve. You know, justice.
Also, if the death penalty for crimes such as murder was actually enforced, I think it would greatly deter those crimes.
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What you're saying makes a lot of sense, but so does the other side, so I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for the sake of argument.
I think the most hardened criminals don't really care whether they live or die. The more recent mass murderers have killed themselves. I can't pull out any exact figures, but lethal injections cost a lot of money. Also, although justice has been served in a traditional sense, I must point out that governments based on cruel justice often fail, and "eye for an eye" diplomacy is something of an anachronism.
Also, I gotta go to bed. I'll be back on tomorrow at about 3:30 Central Standard Time, if you want to keep this going. I'd like to: you're one of the smarter people I've met on this site, even though I don't agree with you.
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I feel the same way, heh.
Hey, rifle ammo isn't very expensive...
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To many Americans, death by firing squad seems almost barbaric. Winston Churchill, who knew a thing or two about death, once said "If you must kill a man, it costs nothing to be merciful."
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True enough. But better than stones I think.
I just think it's stupid that an execution costs as much money as it does.
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A pointless q. They would not be victims if they had guns.
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Oh, so now we're debating the "arm everybody" tactic. This is what causes deadlock after a V-Tech or an NIU. Conservatives say, "well, if everybody had guns..." I fail to see how putting guns on the streets will reduce violence. Lots of Americans out there are simply not rational people. Scenario: A guy and his girlfriend are walking down the street. A bunch of gang members drive by and shoot the guy dead. The girlfriend pulls out her gun and shoots them all dead. A few days later, a friend of the gang members finds the girlfriend and shoots her. Her father, enraged, goes out to find the killers, but shoots the wrong guy. Which causes that guy's brother to shoot the father, which causes the father's friend to shoot the brother, and it goes on.
There are so many Americans out there who want guns, for vengeance, for 'self-defense', for pride, for manhood. Why should we put guns in the hands of every wacko who thinks they know how to use them?
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nobody's forcing you to carry. Be a victim if you want. Despite your efforts it's still a realatively free country.
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More politics of fear. So, I have to carry a gun because everyone else might be? Don't you see that it's a recipe for disaster?
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I don't think schools are really what terrorists aim for...unless it's a disgruntled/harassed/disturbed student that goes there.
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Tell that to the Israelis.
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what the hell does this have to do with terrorism?
When have you ever heard of a terrorist using a gun? They use bombs, and plastic knives.
and they go after economic and political targets, as those are the ones that destroyed their way of life.
it wasn't Colonial Middle School that came up with the idea of creating the nation of Israel.
If we "need signs" for anyone, it's our own people, because they are the ones coming into schools and shooting.
This comic lost all validation as an argument when you included terrorism in there.
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It's not my job to open your eyes. It's yours.
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A job that I do very well, thank you.
I can open them as far as they'll go, and all I'll see is some regurgitated bushist media mumble jumble about terrorism and how the liberals aren't willing to fight it.
You wanna know the best way to fight terrorists? Stay the fuck outta their affairs! That's what got us into this mess to begin with anyway...
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Nope. The best way to fight terrorists it to kill them. Oh, and just so you know - We weren't in their affairs. They brought the fight to us.
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not to mention that Israel is also our ally...
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You really need a history class if you honestly believe that...you think the state of Israel was their idea?
cuz it wasn't.
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So the solution is to bomb schools & hospitals? You are lost.
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No. You are. One minute you are blaming Israel for being bombing terrorist, when in fact, Israel is our ally, the next you are saying, thank goodness the state is our ally? You don't have your facts together. To you the Middle East is all one big melting terrorist plot, and that's NOT the truth.
I never said that they solution is to bomb schools and hospitals, but do you think we are doing any better over there? Do you think that we are going to be helping to rebuild all that infrastructure we damaged?
History would tell us no.
The only thing sadder than an uniformed political cartoon is an uniformed political cartoonist.
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I've never blamed Israel.
Yes, we are better than them and will likely always be.
It it not my job to re-educate you. Obviously you are a product of our public school system. With luck you will see w/ clarity in 10 years. To speed that up, listen to Dennis Prager and support conservatives by buying their books. Did I mention that mine is for sale now?
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why buy the cow when I can get the milk for free?
I think you are the one with the public education here...why don't you try rereading your own posts?
Then you will see where you clearly blamed Israel
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I went back & tried to figure how u thot I blamed Isreal...
Not sure I got it but, when you claimed schools were not targets and I answered : tell that to the Israelis, It meant that Isrealis schools, malls, cafes, hospitals, school/public buses are targetted all the time by palestinian suicide bombers.
I blame terrorists not Israel.
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touche. thank you for clarifying that.
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Doesn't look like the comic takes place in Israel though.
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So, what'll be next? "Please don't shoot me" signs instead of bullet proof vests for soldiers\police\etc?
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A liberal tried it here in California.. hung a sign "THIS IS A GUN FREE HOUSE".. she took the sign down only after her home was broken into twice. It was tragic and very funny.
None of her neighbors had break ins.. we figure the thieves knew an easy target with her stupid sign.
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Which is more effective?
A sign that says "THIS IS A GUN FREE HOME"
Or a target taped to the door and full of holes
My money's on the latter.
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I say we do a study.
We take two pairs of houses one in the bad side of town and one on the good side. One of each of the pair will be "gun free home" the other will be the target.
We set them up for a year and see which gets broken into more.
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