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Published: 2018-08-15 17:39:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 13463; Favourites: 168; Downloads: 35
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They are truly massive, but compared to large theropods even the largest of them still pale pathetically. Hence I excluded theropods.In order from human to the right.
Prestosuchus chiniquensis
INACCURATE IN CHART: actual skull length 80 cm instead of 1 m, so should be ~5.6 m long, making it smaller than Fasolasuchus, ´Aliwalia rex´, and Saurosuchus.
From early-middle Triassic South America.
Varanus priscus
Or Megalania. It is easily the largest terrestrial lizard known, at a max length of 5.3-5.5 m. I anticipated it to look more underwhelming, but as it turns out a ~5.4 m long lizard does look bloody huge. At 5.4 m it would have a mass of around half a metric tonne. It shared its habitat with the much smaller marsupial predator Thylacoleo. From pleistocene Australia.
Arctodus simus
Often cited as the largest predatory land mammal, a titel that it shares with Daeodon and Andrewsarchus. Around 750-1000 kg for this specimen. It is also cheating a bit because it wasn´t a full time predator but an omnivore. From the pleistocene North America.
Erythrosuchus africanus
Perhaps it comes as a surprise, but Erythrosuchus is bloody massive for the largest specimens, ~5.4 m long along the centra and ~1.3 m tall.
It is equal in length to V.priscus but enormously more bulky, likely allowing it to reach 1+ metric tonne. From the early Triassic Karoo beds.
Anteosaurus magnificus
The largest terrestrial synapsid predator known, with a tyrannosaur-like skull of 80.5 cm, nearly as long as Andrewsarchus´ skull while being much shorter proportionally. Probably a bit heavier than Arctodus, but unsure how much. It actually converged on tyrannosaurines in a number of ways, including bony bosses on the head and a strong wide skull. From the capitanian middle Permian Karoo beds.
Razanandrongobe sakalavae
A runner up contender for the title, at a nearly equal size to Prestosuchus (6.3 m vs 7m), and claiming the apex predator title in Madagascar (attached to Africa at the time) in the middle Jurassic. Other African theropods from that age (Afrovenator would be ~1.2 t) are probably slightly less massive. 2 t does not seem unlikely as a mass for this crocodyliform.
Daeodon shoshonensis
A large basal whippomorph ungulate, and one of the largest mammalian terrestrial predators. Slightly larger than Andrewsarchus (90cm skull vs 84 cm), which I excluded because the two would be too similar. It is from the Oligocene-Miocene.
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References:
Picture of the mount for Prestosuchus i.pinimg.com/originals/64/30/3…
For V.priscus I used cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Arctodus and Daeodon based on ´s skeletals
Erythrosuchus qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-… also by Blazze92
Anteosaurus based on a drawing I made of it, where I used Orlov´s 1952 skeletal of Titanophoneus, adjusted to an 80.5 cm Anteosaurus skull
Razanandrongobe used skull mockup scaled to Blazze92´s Baurusuchus skeletal.
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Links to the silhouettes I made that you can use freely (but give credit to what I based them on).
Anteosaurus
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Razanandrongobe
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Varanus priscus
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Prestosuchus
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Erythrosuchus
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Arctodus
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Arctodus special edition:
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
Daeodon
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments…
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Those are some long limbs on Razanandrongobe. Was it capable of agile movement? Or os that an illusion?
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I based it on Baurusuchus but really there are no well known notosuchians very close to Razanandrongobe so I am not confident in claiming much about its anatomy. It is a very fragmentary animal.
Most terrestrial notosuchians had fairly long limbs and would be fast and agile in any case.
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this chart was made before it was even described
don´t worry though, I´m working on a synapsid-focused version of this that will include Simbakubwa among many others.
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Waarschijnlijk wel.
Eerst ga ik na examens een grote chart maken zoals dit maar vooral synapsiden.
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Begrijpelijk, ik zou eigk ook meer voor mn examens moeten doen momenteel.
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Since, as you say, Arctodus is kind of cheating to hold the title of "largest predatory land mammal", (and I'm assuming the same applies to Daeodon), what then would be the "largest obligate carnivore land mammal"?
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I suspect it may turn out to be the polar bear.
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I'm going to be honest, I completely forgot about the polar bear.
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Don´t discount living animals just yet
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It is noticeably smaller than this Prestosuchus but it could fit right in here too, yeah.
Actually EDIT: Prestosuch has been downsized by 20% linearly, they´re the same rough size now.
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I thought it was near Tyrannosaur size
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´Tyrannosaur size` uh it is roughly the size of Nanuqsaurus if that is what you mean.
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Nah. I really thought it approached Tyrannosaurus rex in size. Guess I was wrong.
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Would probably weigh around 1/7 th of an 'average` adult Tyrannosaurus rex
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I know and that was a little disappointing to find out
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Prestosuchus looks like it’s trying to eat the scale guy.
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Would you be interested in joining my project, #synapsidappreciation? Basically, it's a project focusing on non-mammal synapsids that I want other people to get involved in so we can all spread some awareness and appreciation for the non-mammal synapsids. Including me, 4 people have done stuff for the project. Other creatures are allowed but the synapsids have to be the main focus.
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It sounds good but I am afraid no, I will have to focus on some other things first.
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He is
Nowhere because Arctodus is the same size and they are too similar to both include.
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This is really cool and well made, I'm glad you made this! Ironically I had just recently been thinking about non-dinosaurian predators. If your up for it I have some questions about it though.
Isn't one species of Quinkana pretty big? Similar in length to Megalania if I remember correctly. Was it excluded for space or are they not that big.
I thought Arctotherium bonariense was significantly larger than Arctodus simus? Wikipedia lists it at about 3,000 pounds on average, which is bigger than Arctodus's 1 ton.
Are you planning on doing a similar size comparison for non-dinosaurian herbivores in the future?
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Thank you.
Quinkana´s image is mostly mythical, with the very largest remains suggesting sizes up to a whopping 3.5 m and a mass of
100 kg.
sad.
Arctotherium seems to have been right around the same size as large Arctodus.
And, no I do not think so. The chart would be severly mismatched.
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Well, there is one specimen that might suggest giant Quinkana, but it's just a tiny fragment of skull.
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Well shucks, that's surprising, its a little smaller than the average alligator. And I've seen renditions of Quinkana that made it look like Prestosuchus here. Sad indeed.
Fair enough, I thought the extra pounds would make a visual difference but I suppose at that size its all relative.
And thats understandable, you'd have giants such as Paraceratherium and Paleoloxodon next to things like Moschops, Megalochelys, and Cotylorhynchus
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This is really cool. I never knew Anteosaurus was so large.
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Outside of archosauriformes, it’s the largest land predator.
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Since when is Prestosuchus claimed to be bigger than Fasolasuchus?
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Since there is a skull larger than Fasolasuchus´ skull while being proportionally shorter.
1 m vs 91-92 cm
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There were a few bones that indicated Prestosuchus being 7 meters as shown in the chart.
It's also a case of Fasolasuchus not being that big.
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I don't doubt Prestosuchus being big, but where's the paper saying Fasolasuchus wasn't 26-33 feet?
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33 ft is basically impossible for Fasolasuchus (it would require a body/skull ratio of 11/1, which is not seen in any rauisuchian. It would need a lace monitor like built for that lmao.
26 ft (7.9 m) is also probably too large. I scaled Hartman´s Batrachotomus to a 0.9 m skull and it got to ~6.5 m (21.3 ft). Incidentally, scaling Prestosuchus to a 0.9 m skull also yields a similar length, so ~6.5 m is likely.
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You know one is always sorry to read or hear about how profoundly the wild world has been decimated and diminished by the work of Man the Hunter, but every so often I am profoundly grateful we live in a eon mostly free from predators large enough to swallow us whole AND GO LOOKING FOR MORE!
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Humans actually did see two of these.
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I'm mildly astonished and extremely impressed that our Ancestors lived long enough to produce the lines of descent that lead to us, rather than drop dead out of sheer fright!
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Arctodus is not significantly bigger than polar bears.
And V.priscus for example is smaller than saltwater crocodiles.
So do not discount our current fauna just yet!
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