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Description After I'd taken this photograph, I tried to ask in mime (I knew no Marathi, and not much Hindi at that time) whether they minded. The lady on the right laughed, and addressed me in excellent English, asking me if I spoke English.

We had a conversation while they breakfasted, and then they had to get changed to go to work. They took turns to hold a triangular cloth screen out from the post for each other to change inside, and emerged like butterflies from chrysalises - immaculately dressed in beautiful saris.

They both worked as English language secretaries in an import-export business. Yet they were living on the pavement, with all their worldly possessions locked in those two scruffy trunks all day while they were at work.

They were lucky: the sarpanch (village headman, roughly speaking) of the village they came from had lent them the money to pay for their training, and they were expecting to have to work for five or six years to save enough money to pay him back and pay for their own marriages back in their village. They said they could afford to live in some horrible little room (their description) and knew that they'd have to when the monsoon arrived, but in the meantime they preferred to save more money. A friend of theirs didn't have room for them, but had lent them her address; their employer didn't know they were living on the street.

Not everybody living on the pavement is so lucky, of course - for example [link] or [link] - I didn't speak to those people, but I'd be surprised if their story was as happy.

Bombay (Mumbai now) December 1983.
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Comments: 56

g2manoj [2009-08-31 07:11:34 +0000 UTC]

the best thing in you is you have a very good story behind every shot, you are my inspiration sir, hats offf!!

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7ucky [2009-05-08 23:26:52 +0000 UTC]

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Gooregan [2009-03-12 21:34:55 +0000 UTC]

Impressive story as well as picture. WoW.

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coshipi In reply to Gooregan [2009-03-13 08:00:25 +0000 UTC]

Danke. All I've contributed really is remember, over the years, a conversation with two young ladies. What's impressive is the two young ladies.

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Gooregan In reply to coshipi [2009-03-13 15:26:20 +0000 UTC]

You also have the ability to see the right and interesting things - and the open mind to listen. ThatΒ΄s worth a lot.

Thanks for being the chronicler of this story!

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Yinni [2009-03-11 10:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Another hit to the point.

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coshipi In reply to Yinni [2009-03-13 08:02:08 +0000 UTC]

I wish I was able to capture scenes and stories like this more often!

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WinDrift [2008-02-05 17:07:51 +0000 UTC]

What a heart wrenching story.

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coshipi In reply to WinDrift [2008-02-05 18:29:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your comment!

I actually found this story really heart-warming, rather than heart-wrenching. These two were doing a really good job of pulling themselves up by their own bootlaces - with (more than) a little help from an unusually beneficent sarpanch.

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WinDrift In reply to coshipi [2008-02-06 00:40:39 +0000 UTC]

I understand what you are saying it is just I have gracndson not too much younger then they are, and I would want so much more for them.

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coshipi In reply to WinDrift [2008-02-06 05:59:24 +0000 UTC]

I think they were probably in their mid- to late twenties when I took that photo, in 1983...a little older than my children are now.

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WinDrift In reply to coshipi [2008-02-06 19:35:52 +0000 UTC]

wow they looked so much younger in the shot!

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coshipi In reply to WinDrift [2008-02-06 19:53:16 +0000 UTC]

It's partly a matter of getting used to judging ages in different populations, but in this case I'm mainly basing my guess on what I learnt of their life histories, and what I've learnt since about the education system in rural India.

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the-darksiren [2008-01-07 14:49:37 +0000 UTC]

What a touching story! Thank you for sharing it!

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coshipi In reply to the-darksiren [2008-01-08 06:59:34 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your comment!

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iamkatia [2007-02-23 18:49:56 +0000 UTC]

a sad story well told.
i hope you were kind enough to help them
monetarily for the kindness and candidness they showed you.

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coshipi In reply to iamkatia [2007-02-23 19:23:23 +0000 UTC]

I don't think it was a sad story at all - I thought it was an uplifting story.

I think they'd have been insulted if I'd offered them money - they weren't beggars, far from it.

Later that same day, a little beggar girl - about four years old - followed me for around a mile, tugging at my kurta, and saying in a plaintive little voice, "Das paise, das paise" (a very small coin at the time). I have a policy of not giving to beggars in India in the normal way of things, firstly because I don't want to attract every beggar in the area, and with small children, because I know any money I give them goes to their minder, not to them. But eventually I came upon a roadside stall selling oranges, bought some, and gave her one. That didn't go to her minder; she ate it there and then. You should have seen her face. It will stay in my mind forever.

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iamkatia In reply to coshipi [2007-02-23 19:51:05 +0000 UTC]

ahh, now THAT'S a wonderful story!

i hang out with the homeless youth here in seattle a lot and used
to hand out one dollar and sometimes five dollar bills.
now what i do is bring a big basket of fruit and OH WHAT JOY
i feel to see them eating apples and oranges and to know that
all those wonderful vitamins are going into their systems.

good for you! thanks for sharing..

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Hmop [2007-02-06 15:58:05 +0000 UTC]

nice shot!

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coshipi In reply to Hmop [2007-02-07 12:01:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I took the shot before I knew the young ladies' story - I'm jolly lucky to have found out about it.

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Hmop In reply to coshipi [2007-02-07 12:05:36 +0000 UTC]

yeah, probably

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Antepli [2005-11-01 02:16:11 +0000 UTC]

I have had read ur comment!
This world is huge and full of things we always feel far from, but we all r close to it.
Thanks

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coshipi In reply to Antepli [2005-11-01 07:45:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for commenting!

I flew with Etihad Airways in September and October this year, London-Abu Dhabi-Delhi and back. I saw Abu Dhabi airport for the first time. The main concourse is incredible. Every other airport I've visited has fitted Prince Charles's description of modern architecture perfectly: monstrous carbuncles; but Abu Dhabi is beautiful - I have photos, I'll put them up soon (it's a long panorama that I still have to stitch).

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Antepli In reply to coshipi [2005-11-01 13:25:13 +0000 UTC]

Thaks man
I would be happy to see them, when are you gonna submit them?

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coshipi In reply to Antepli [2005-11-01 14:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Two or three days time, probably - when I get round to stitching it up.

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Antepli In reply to coshipi [2005-11-01 14:03:25 +0000 UTC]

Does it mean that I shall deviantwatch ya

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aambience [2005-08-01 23:48:29 +0000 UTC]

Great story

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coshipi In reply to aambience [2005-08-02 07:17:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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roninbearz [2005-08-01 22:43:22 +0000 UTC]

They're beautiful & determined, how noble humans can be is amazing...why aren't there more of them, like that? This is a amazing image & even more so with the brief background.

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coshipi In reply to roninbearz [2005-08-02 07:16:23 +0000 UTC]

I think there are a surprisingly large number of beautiful and determined people - but of course there are also many who aren't. It's a whole spectrum, from those who give up at the slightest setback, to those who never say die come what may. These two are fairly near the latter end of the scale, I think you're right really.

One of the things that impressed me greatly was their openness with a complete stranger - they'd obviously very quickly assessed that I was okay. Absolutely not what I'd been led to expect of women in India - at that time I was only just beginning to realize how wildly wrong the stereotypes so often are.

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aladyx [2005-07-12 17:09:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for providing us with a little more insight into the world we are all a part of. Nice job.

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coshipi In reply to aladyx [2005-07-12 20:34:20 +0000 UTC]

There's certainly a general thing about not making assumptions, but I suspect these two were quite exceptional individuals. I doubt whether many people living on the pavement are in similar circumstances.

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aladyx In reply to coshipi [2005-07-13 18:56:46 +0000 UTC]

you are most likely right.

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djcleathal [2005-07-05 08:25:15 +0000 UTC]

wow - thats amazing -- photo excellent 2 - i like that the have the car behind them - provides mean contrast

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coshipi In reply to djcleathal [2005-07-05 09:15:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks - especially for the

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paellamagi [2005-06-30 08:35:57 +0000 UTC]

Thats a great story to go with this photo... The title is very fitting as well.

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coshipi In reply to paellamagi [2005-06-30 09:09:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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art-o [2005-06-23 10:18:16 +0000 UTC]

You are the teller by lyrics and pics...thank you for beeing there

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coshipi In reply to art-o [2005-06-23 10:53:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for watching and reading

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Wodewose [2005-06-23 09:24:05 +0000 UTC]

Well done, bro A good pic and an enlightening story, simply (i.e. well) told.

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coshipi In reply to Wodewose [2005-06-23 09:38:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

Again, I don't think they'd want recognizable pics of them up - but they're safe from their employer finding out about them living on the street by now, I'm pretty sure! If they by some extraordinary chance should see this, I'm sure they'd have a hearty laugh. Their friend with the room might recognize them, too, and they wouldn't mind that; and I'd be very surprised if their employer would recognize them, and either they've got their feet very well under the table by now, or more likely, they left Bombay well over a decade ago.

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Wodewose In reply to coshipi [2005-06-23 11:06:20 +0000 UTC]

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Marie-Aude [2005-06-22 07:29:10 +0000 UTC]

For the story, it's worth a

Thanks for sharing

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coshipi In reply to Marie-Aude [2005-06-22 14:38:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the

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thermalraven [2005-06-22 07:25:14 +0000 UTC]

Great story mate
Love the work

How much we take for granted....

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coshipi In reply to thermalraven [2005-06-22 14:39:54 +0000 UTC]

I didn't get the impression you took so much for granted - I love your pictures, and I can see that you've seen life outside the pretty prisons, too.

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thermalraven In reply to coshipi [2005-06-22 14:50:31 +0000 UTC]

Yeah...suppose you can say I have seen the worst of mankind....BUT...I have seen beauty....and kindness that extends normality...I love where I am and I love what I do...but sometimes...I just long too be home....and take things for granted.......just for a little while

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coshipi In reply to thermalraven [2005-06-22 14:54:05 +0000 UTC]

That's well understood! I'm very lucky, I have a relatively comfortable life - but at least I'm not blind to the rest of the world, like so many people seem to be.

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Toadsmoothy2 [2005-06-22 04:30:30 +0000 UTC]

great photo. incredible story. and we often complain about having to roll out of our nice clean beds in our nice clean houses and go to work in our nice clean offices and having opportunities these women could only dream of. sigh.

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coshipi In reply to Toadsmoothy2 [2005-06-22 14:43:53 +0000 UTC]

These women have seen the life of the opulent in Mumbai (Bombay as it was then) - and certainly at that stage, they still wanted to go back to their village. I suspect they never changed their minds, and are now back in their village, bringing up lovely children. I hope they're happy - they very likely are.

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