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Description Trying out a new idea for backgrounds I read in a tutorial not too long ago. I remember someone recommending it once, but I didn't actually try it until now.

Have NO idea why it took me 3 nights to finish. There's something about it that I don't like, but I'm cool with this.

Portal (c) Valve
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FostersFan-Imp [2011-06-13 06:11:10 +0000 UTC]

gall, portals confuse me! .o. I love the game, but they weird me out ever time.
This is really neat! The perspective on the background looks great, and the drawings are way cool! ^^
..but, wouldn't you see chel from the side coming out of the orange portal on the bottom? I had to think about this one for a while cuz it confused me. I thought she was stepping sideways through the blue one and sideways the other way through the orange one at first, and thought there was an anatomy paradox in this. XD; I over thought it.
So, she's going straight in through the blue one, right? Which would mean she's going straight out of the orange one. so, wouldn't the orange on the bottom be a side shot of her? Or at least her face since she's going in sorta at an angle..

whatevvvver nvm XD; this is still epic

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cosmographia In reply to FostersFan-Imp [2011-06-13 18:12:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

She's practically tip=toe-ing half her body is on one side and vice-versa. If you're confused, grab any doll and place it in similar positions and rotate it 360 degrees. You'll see it's alright, not perfect, but it's all right.

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FostersFan-Imp In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-14 02:21:30 +0000 UTC]

I think you did pretty well with that, actually. The only thing would be her face would show more.
But congrats on blowing my mind and making me think a little XD

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PatchLamb [2011-06-12 23:07:39 +0000 UTC]

Waitbut if she's stepeing into the blue and out the orange in the first panel, why is she stepping into the blue and orange at the same time in the second panel

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cosmographia In reply to PatchLamb [2011-06-13 01:43:17 +0000 UTC]

Blue - in Portal
Orange - out Portal.

In the first panel she's stepping out (orange) and in the second panel she's stepping in (blue) and you see the orange panel (out) from a distance where she is stepping out. No error there.

Think with portals.

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-13 02:47:16 +0000 UTC]

Then wouldn't she be facing the turret and cube

I mean, she looks like she is when she's going into the blue one. But you see her back on the orange one. :u

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cosmographia In reply to PatchLamb [2011-06-13 03:03:17 +0000 UTC]

No, the image is inverted because it's another portal.

Chell --> Turret --> Cube

So looking at the OTHER side of the room, the people are inverted.

Cube --> Turret --> Chell.

Get it?

Also, you see her back in the orange one because of the perspective of the second one where you're looking at another direction. (I used a 3D map for this to make sure I got everything right).

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-13 03:10:02 +0000 UTC]

Like, in the first panel it shows her stepping toward the turret. But she looks like she's going into the orange portal in the second one. . . but if she is then she;s be facing the viewers on the blue one.

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cosmographia In reply to PatchLamb [2011-06-13 05:53:09 +0000 UTC]

She has one leg out the orange portal, and there's one still in the blue portal, her leg is in the floor in the second panel. I really don't know what you're not seeing.

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-13 06:07:26 +0000 UTC]

Alllright. I went and asked my art-college friend. She said if she's walking into the blue then you'd see her side from the orange, not her back.

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cosmographia In reply to PatchLamb [2011-06-13 18:20:14 +0000 UTC]

She isn't fully in the portal yet. It's like making a hole in the wall and stepping in it, you'll only see half of the body on one side and the other. Take a doll--any--and put her in a square. Flip the square around and observe it.

If the camera is in a room in the back, you will SEE her back. (Second panel)

______
[_____]
...|...

The line is Chell.
So if the camera is behind her, you see her back.


So WHY do you see Chell's back in the second panel?

Because the camera is behind her. In the first panel, she's facing the wall in the second panel. You see her back. It's another room, observe the other two objects that tell you "the camera is facing the OTHER side of the room". Maybe the anatomy isn't perfect, but she CAN'T be facing the camera in the second panel.

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-14 05:56:58 +0000 UTC]

Okayokay

I know a better way to say what I'm saying

The first panel is a side shot on the orange portal.
The second panel orange portal is a side shot, too. Portal wise.
You see her side in the first panel in the orange portal.
You see her back in the second panel orange portal.

You'd figure it's be just a flip of the first panels orange. They'd both be facing the same way, but from a different side.

. . . if I but a doll facing me and turned it around, I'd see her front. If I faced her back to me then flipped it, I'd see her front upside down.

If I faced her back to me then turned it around till her back faced me again then I didn't actually turn her.

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-14 05:46:34 +0000 UTC]

She wouldn't be facing the camera she'd be facing the back of the cube and turret.

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-13 05:57:20 +0000 UTC]

I'm not seeing her face. That's what I'm not seeing.
If she's looking through the blue shouldn't you see her face from the orange.

If she's going into the orange and out the blue you'd see her front in the blue. If she's going in the blue and out the orange. . . why is her back and heel showing? Like she's walking backwards?

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PatchLamb In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-13 03:08:03 +0000 UTC]

Then why isn't she stepping out of one

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Brightside-Maddi [2011-06-11 05:36:11 +0000 UTC]

mindfuck o_o

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cosmographia In reply to Brightside-Maddi [2011-06-13 18:12:42 +0000 UTC]

xD

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Potral [2011-06-10 21:59:47 +0000 UTC]

Looks great, i'll tell my fiend about this.

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cosmographia In reply to Potral [2011-06-13 18:12:49 +0000 UTC]

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The-Mad-Nik [2011-06-10 17:49:58 +0000 UTC]

Nice work, wanna point out though that the head isn't really accurate. On the above picture it seems like she is looking to the left (her left) and on the down picture it seems likes she's looking to her right (her right). could be just me though

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cosmographia In reply to The-Mad-Nik [2011-06-13 01:41:34 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's a little tilted, I tried fixing it, that's about as close as I could get. 👍: 0 ⏩: 0

toniquedeween [2011-06-10 17:34:36 +0000 UTC]

Go, Chell, go!

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Mrfipp [2011-06-10 04:44:19 +0000 UTC]

Wait, why does it look like we have views of Chell's back from both portals? Shouldn't we be seeing her from front from the portal near the turret?

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cosmographia In reply to Mrfipp [2011-06-10 05:28:03 +0000 UTC]

wait...you mean the second orange portal in the bottom? The blue portal is on the right wall of the first panel, you just can't see it.

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CeeDeeEmBee [2011-06-10 04:36:43 +0000 UTC]

Me gusta.

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cosmographia In reply to CeeDeeEmBee [2011-06-10 05:28:30 +0000 UTC]

You never say much, do you? xD

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CeeDeeEmBee In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-10 23:10:52 +0000 UTC]

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cosmographia In reply to CeeDeeEmBee [2011-06-11 05:56:22 +0000 UTC]

Well, I dunno, maybe you can suggest something? Point out what's good? Come on, Kwii. D:

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CeeDeeEmBee In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-12 01:35:18 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry D: I'm just so non-verbal when I'm here nowadays.

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YerBlues000 [2011-06-10 03:05:11 +0000 UTC]

Just to start out this little shindig- I want to tell you that this is probably the most impressive piece I have yet to see from you. It shows off how much time and talent it takes to pull off a wonderful and impressive piece.

Let's go with the things I ADORE about this piece: I LOVE the perspective. It must have been very complicated to make it look like she was traveling back and forth between a portal. I also adore the detail- You seem to have gotten everything to work out nicely, the rooms have shape and it is obvious where everything is in while looking at the center of the picture (and the graffiti in the background is SO cool)! What I also like is the composition. It only makes sense to have her back portion on the bottom rather than the top, and it is REALLY cool how you separated the image with the blue and orange lines, just like in Portal.

Things that need a bit of work: Where is the light source? I can't seem to find it because the shading on this whole thing is a little bit confusing. If it is coming from the roof- there should be more darkness around the bottom half of her body and also underneath the turret. I don't think the companion cube has enough shading on it either (but it is REALLY nicely done). I think Chell's anatomy is a little bit messed up- I'm not really sure of the specifics, but something seems off. Her arm that is holding the portal gun looks really short from behind. You probably drew the arm a little bit too long in the frontal view and the back view makes it seem really short (Of course- I could be mistaken- but it looks a little off). I know colouring is not the main focus of this image, but I feel you could have made it look more dynamic if you had spent more time focusing on the main parts of the image (Such as Chell, the turret and the companion cube). It just feels like the colouring was rushed because the image as a whole is so insanely fucking cool. Maybe next time you could totally just colour the whole image in segments so you don't get bored and start getting lazy (I realize that my best work normally comes if I haven't been working constantly on an image for an extended amount of time- but maybe that is just me).

All in all, this is outstanding and I can't wait to see more of your art!

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cosmographia In reply to YerBlues000 [2011-06-10 03:16:39 +0000 UTC]

-I wasn't too sure where to make the light-source since it seems like in the testing rooms there doesn't seem to be any. (As if it's coming from everywhere, so I made it like that).

-Originally, the CC had more shading, but I ended up removing it. :\

-Yeah, I know what you mean about the hand. D:

-I did separate things from segmentsl but yeah, at least for Chell I had already grown tired of the drawing and made it half-assed (she was the last one I colored).

So I need to work with anatomy and colors. Got it. :3 THANK YOU!!

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YerBlues000 In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-10 03:18:30 +0000 UTC]

I get what you mean about the testing room- That would be a bit confusing... ;D

And no problem- glad I could help!

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Hallius [2011-06-10 02:58:57 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh. Niiice~

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cosmographia In reply to Hallius [2011-06-10 03:16:51 +0000 UTC]

Gracias

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Hallius In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-10 04:33:24 +0000 UTC]

No problem. Keep it up!

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Gir4president [2011-06-10 02:53:33 +0000 UTC]

You forgot the Aperture Science label on her shirt. *shot*

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cosmographia In reply to Gir4president [2011-06-10 02:56:32 +0000 UTC]

Shut it.

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IFMComics [2011-06-10 02:53:27 +0000 UTC]

this looks really cool, Cosmo

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cosmographia In reply to IFMComics [2011-06-10 02:55:53 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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IFMComics In reply to cosmographia [2011-06-10 03:15:47 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome!

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