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Description I'm trying really hard to remember who began this trend not just in kids' cartoons but media in general but I can't put my finger on it

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Bandi-Fundi [2020-06-14 21:08:08 +0000 UTC]

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SkylaComics [2020-05-20 04:47:51 +0000 UTC]

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saphir93 [2020-05-18 10:36:31 +0000 UTC]

New She-ra Catra In a nutshell   

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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to saphir93 [2020-06-29 07:41:22 +0000 UTC]

Skeletor is laughing at them from beef-cake hell.

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Seriouslywot [2020-05-17 14:34:59 +0000 UTC]

*innocents

Other than that, stellar artwork XD

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Wonder-Woof [2020-05-16 21:21:54 +0000 UTC]

I was a omnicidal dictator but then my sworn enemy sang a song for me and I realized that all I wanted was to be loooooved~~~

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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to Wonder-Woof [2020-06-29 08:03:03 +0000 UTC]

There was a great episode of “The Night Gallery”, where this old Nazi had been on the run from Israeli justice for years under an alias, and was almost caught.
This man had had a rotten life, his father killed in WW1, his mother destitute, he had nothing under the Weimar Republic. He had never known happiness, only desperation and hatred, blaming the Jews for his problems upon joining the Hitler Youth.
Now, he lived a meaningless life of mere survival. However, something VERY strange happened to him when he slipped into an art exhibit to lose some agents on his trail.
He came to a rather simple, Bob Ross style painting of a man fishing in a lovely lake in the late summer....
—-and he was suddenly THERE, as the fisherman.
THIS, this was happiness, the simple joy of life he had never known, HIS paradise, finally getting a taste for the first time.
But then it came to an end.
Several times he has close calls and opportunities to escape further and continue on the run, but he...
...can’t. At increasing peril to himself, he HAS to revisit the painting, again and again.
It seems like an excellent setup for a cheap, modern redemption story, doesn’t it?
All the cards are there, and the promise of what heaven would be like if he simply turns himself in, repents and pays for his crimes.
An agent confronts him in the gallery at night, and gives him this chance.
In spite of EVERYTHING, he simply murders the man, and then, in the dark, has the GALL to beg God to let him into the painting he’s kneeling before for good! Well, his wish is granted.
Other agents soon come in and turn on the lights. Turns out the museum the day before has rearranged the art pieces as they made room for more. The fishing painting had been put elsewhere, and in its place, too dark for him to see, was a Holocaust memorial painting, depicting one of HIS OWN Victims as they were dying from his torture...
...only NOW the victim had HIS face, a VERY surprised look on his face!
Comeuppance like that is what such cheap tricks OUGHT to lead to.

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Inky-Shade [2020-05-16 21:07:50 +0000 UTC]

I like redemption arcs a lot, but only when a character deserves to be redeemed or at least pays for what they have done as a villain before they join the protagonists. Make it believable and do not rush it. Rushing it is the biggest mistake.


And about this example in particular: the show itself was written pretty badly to begin with so I am not surprised about the way they went with it. Little world building, flat characters besides a few, unfocused, tons of plot holes, continuity mistakes and more interested in pushing a political message rather than working on the story and characters itself which should actualy be the main focus. Hell, even the topic "relationships" that they pushed as so important was done weakly and unrealistically. Spongebob and Patrick had a better and more believable friendship than the "best friend squad" (looking at Glimmer in particular who was one of the most unlikable characters and treated her supposed friends with little to no respect and almost killed them all).


Tbh Season 5 was more focused and exciting than the previous seasons, but still, the show did not deliver what it promised. There was potential but it was not used to it's fullest.


Also I do not like that they put someone who had zero knowledge about how to produce a show in charge. Not to mention that Stevenson leaves a bitter taste in my mouth since she has a few rather twisted morals.

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Klawddie [2020-05-16 17:08:15 +0000 UTC]

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KitsuneLenali [2020-05-16 12:44:09 +0000 UTC]

IT NEEDED TO BE SAID.

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ZozoDagon [2020-05-16 06:00:16 +0000 UTC]

I read through the comments and I gotta say... I don't think this was even remotely a redemption arch. It's more of a reflection of western societies willingness to forget the horrid shit women pull because they are of the fairer sex. Put a male villain in this strip and the comics last panel would be changed drastically to an uncaring protagonist that will vanquish the villain regardless.

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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to ZozoDagon [2020-06-29 07:24:51 +0000 UTC]

Reminds me of what a critic of modern feminism said a year or two ago, about the history of women jurors as proof that western patriarchy was ALL about protecting women, that they had few rights but ALL the privileges, TOO many. Proper feminist theory (first wave) was as much about knocking DOWN some advantages women had that men had given them too much of.
Now, men are just physically better at violent crime, because we are tougher and stronger. That’s no proof that women are LESS evil, on average, than men, just that they are evil in subtler ways to compensate for their lack of brute strength. So, given how our justice system is designed to stack on the years via violence as a multiplier, naturally, women will spend a lot less time in prison than men.
However, it used to be a LOT worse.
Throughout the 19th century, less than 2% of all convictions were women, and all but the worst got light sentences. Of course, more women then men ended up in an asylum, but there weren’t that many asylum compared to prisons, so tomatoe, toemato.
But my point is THIS: once women became jurors, convictions of accused women went WAY up. Men had kept women out of juries because it is often a HORRIBLE job, not to mention a big distraction from many things most people would rather do. It was patronizing in the most original sense of the term. But with a woman on the job, she could see through an evil manipulator and translate it into terms the male jurors could grasp, seeing through the pretty vail to the black heart underneath.
The subtext of the notion that the average man treated the average woman like “chattel” is akin to saying that most men see no difference between a rickety old, disposable rocker and a priceless throne of gold, jewels, and all manner of unique design. Both are literally chattel and kinds of chairs. However, a man that makes no distinction between them is a man who doesn’t take life or the future seriously, he’s a nihilist who “Just likes to watch the world BURN.”
Such a man was the ONLY kind of man in the ancient world to fit the bill of extreme misogyny that modern feminazis somehow think they ALL were like. If that were true, our species would have gone extinct long ago. Such men simply do NOT care for children.
No, insofar as ordinary men treated their wives as “chattel” at all, it was as a king treasures his throne, and would fight to the death to keep safe.
By extension, ordinary men entered into a kind of community compact of gentlemen that they would protect one another’s “thrones”, and the reluctance to involve women in the justice system and direct politics grew from that, because politics can also be a soul destroying pain in the ass.
This was wrong, not least of which because the necessity had become obsolete. Women didn’t need that kind of protection anymore, so it was wrong to keep imposing it on them.

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TheGraphicAcademic [2020-05-16 04:54:08 +0000 UTC]

"I may have LITERALLY COMMITTED GENOCIDE, but I had a very difficult childhood! That makes it all okay, yes?" 

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cxpe [2020-05-16 04:30:51 +0000 UTC]

I'm sad,
and I guess I'm pretty I think?

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ShadowRealm-Ink [2020-05-16 00:10:04 +0000 UTC]

The accuracy of this picture is at 9,000,000%.

I feel like they only do this for female villains like her. Because they don't want to get rid of one of their sexier sexual appeal characters. Which is unfortunately usually the female villain in 95% of media (I can't recall a show where the female villain character wasn't hotter than the good female characters.)

Also, they do this because it comes from a really old, and I mean OLD idea of redemption. Where you can be absolved of your sins no matter how bad it is. But, here the thing, that literally everyone forgets that old idea. The person who absolves it is usually a Bishop or a Pope, or a highly exalted person of high respect who has the highest understanding of morals, or a powerful spirit or god who gives the okay. Not random people (Sure random people can do it. But, the ones usually available in this situation are on the "questionable" side of morals). So, they never get properly judged. And, on top of that, the person usually has done deeds so vile. That they're flat-out unredeemable. 

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sweetsugariness [2020-05-15 22:35:59 +0000 UTC]

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LP4E2 [2020-05-15 19:40:49 +0000 UTC]

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CountANDRA In reply to LP4E2 [2020-05-15 22:10:44 +0000 UTC]

Same. Like, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE redemption arcs! ..... I love well-written redemption arcs that are aware of the character they are trying to redeem!

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Inspector-Spinda [2020-05-15 19:33:56 +0000 UTC]

it probably started in the early 2000s or something like that. 80s were still saturday morning villains... 90s were.... i want to say more slice of life. like spongebob didn't really have a villain, more like grouchy people. same with stuff like hey arnold. 2000s and 2010s started getting more anime influence and bringing action shows back. 

maybe batman the animated series!? i feel like half the villains had "they're human too" episodes, though idk if that counts as redemption arcs. im 99% sure anime started it though.

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