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Published: 2015-04-05 10:20:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 2232; Favourites: 66; Downloads: 0
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Look a them... o-o ...look at how fabulous they are...~ ouo XD
Not really fitting for Easter, but oh well... xD
Nonetheless Happy Easter to those who celebrate it! ^-^Β
Grell Sutcliff and William T Spears from Kuroshitsuji/Black Butler Β© by Yana Toboso
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This is so cute!
Also i really love how you kept Grell's masculine features, a lot of people make Grell look like just a really flat chested woman (even though I guess he can look like that sometimes haha) but made him look like a pretty man in a pretty dress; it's perfect! Β
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Thank you!
I tried to draw him masculine and ladylike at the same time...seems like I've succeeded xD ^-^Β
And yeah, I know what you mean, in some pictures he just looks veeery anorexic... o_o
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Yes, you did succeed and you're welcome
and yes, exactly! it's kinda gross
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I don't understand people who do this...I mean...yes, Grell wants to be a woman...but he still has a masculine body, hasn't he?
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Yeah he does, and even then, I just don't see the need to get all worked up over it, especially over the internet . He's only a fictional character. ... but, I guess some people just like to argue ya know
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OMG thank you! Finally someone who understands me ;-;
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hah I know right, you're welcome
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this is rlly good but it kinda looks like she's jumping, did you intend that?
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Actually not, I just randomly drew two heads and they eventually turned out like this xD
But now that you mention it, it really looks like he's jumping xD
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grell is a girl, in case you didn't know! but that's a common move in dancing, the jumping thing they look like they're doing.
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I think it doesn't matter ifΒ we say he or she to him/her xD
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well, it's disrespectful not to- she's transgender representation in a media that really needs it
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But he is biologically a guy ._.
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yes, she is, but she's mentally a girl, and that's what you use to refer to someone.
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I'd never disrespect someone like that in real life of course, but Grell is still fictional...so I say he not she
but I know what you mean
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it reflects how you would treat a trans person in real life- if someone who was trans came to you on deviantart and saw that you refer to grell as a male even though you know what her canon gender is, they wouldn't feel so comfortable with you, now would they? it actually bugs me, being transgender myself.
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It doesn't reflect that at all. I'd never do that in real life, what makes you think that?Β But since Grell is fictional it can't really hurt his feelings, now can it? I just prefer his male self, sorry, mayΒ sound selfish but that's how it isΒ :I
Do you know Conchita Wurst by any chance? She's biologically male as well and still, as you may have noticed, I'm using female pronouns for her.
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still, it's disrespectful, because trans representation is very important to us.
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agh i hate butting into other peoples' comments but even though i TOTALLY agree with you, I've always used male pronouns from Grell, since even though Grell himself uses female pronouns, Yana Toboso uses male pronouns when referring to him on her blog so yeah .. just saying :3 other wise and for real people you're totally right
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however, Yana has confirmed that Grell is a trans woman, and trans people are treated differently in Japan, so she has an excuse to use male pronouns.
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And I have an excuse to use male pronouns because Grell does. not. exist.
I hope this discussion is over now. Thank you very much.
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have fun being transphobic trash
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Yeah, wow, I'm soo transphobic ... and it's soo fun being transphobic too...
...and all because of a fictional character. Wow.
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how you treat fiction often reflects how you treat life. you treat grell in a transphobic manner, and that shows real people that you would likely treat them the same way.
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Are you kidding me? That is such a stupid theorie you're putting up here. Oh I'm stabbing fictional characters in video games, does that reflect to others that I'm a fricking serial killer in real life? Maybe you should stop being such a douche and learn some psychology befor saying such nonsense. Seriously, stop forcing your opinion on others and get your shit together.
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First of all, playing a video game that requires murder in order to get through the levels and quests or as a quick way to get money for things you want in-game is completely different from totally ignoring the canon of a series just to refer to a character as the gender you think they should be. In GTA, killing is normal because in the canon, you are a gang member. In Black Butler, Grell refers to herself, without fail, as a woman. She dresses, speaks, and acts in a manner that clearly implies that she's trans, and in a confessional written by series creator Yana Toboso, she flat-out states that her biggest regret was not being born female and that the thing she wants most in life is a sex change. Is that compelling enough evidence that it's not my opinion, asshole?
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You seriously need to chill. No need to insult anyone. I'm totally aware of everything, I have the book where Grell said that.
I KNOW, I obsess over Black Butler for almost three years now, okay?
And I totally agree with you if it involves REAL people,Β so I also don't care because Grell is and will always beΒ fictional. As you said even Yana uses male pronouns.
And stop calling me transphobic when you don't even know me.
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I never said Yana uses male pronouns- I've only ever heard her refer to Grell as "that girl".
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You saidΒ "Yana has confirmed that Grell is a trans woman, and trans people are treated differently in Japan, so she has an excuse to use male pronouns."
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I said she had an excuse, not that she actually uses them regularly.
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Still, apparently she can use them without people terrorising her. So why not me? It doesn't hurt anyone, does it?
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Actually, it does. Like I said before, if a trans person comes to your page and sees you referring to Grell as male when you explicitly know she identifies as female, they're going to feel unsafe commenting or favouriting because it gives off the idea that you don't respect gender identity.
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.......
...but I doohooo.... .-.
...and I don't think the first thing a person does when coming to my page is to check if I refer to Grell the right way...
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I mean if they see your art of her. It gives the idea that you don't respect her gender, and by extension, anyone else's.
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...alright, then I guess I just have to accept that transgender people will hate me.
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Omg you don't see much of this shipping in art form @.@ its gorgeous :3
Great job on it
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Wow. I love Grell's boots and that dress. William's pose is really nice and I like that he has red socks. Very classy.Β
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Thank you I'm glad you love it!
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That's a sweet drawing. Love it XD
Happy Easter!!
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I'm glad you love it
Happy Easter! ^-^Β
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They look so good together! A fantastic drawing
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